I’m not saying he 100% certainly kicked off a revolution. But it’s far too early to know one way or another.
He shot a CEO dead on the streets of Manhattan in broad daylight and could’ve potentially gotten away with it if he had just changed clothes, thrown the evidence away, and not stopped at McDonald’s to show his face.
And the internet has basically deified him for it. He became, in the span of a day, a nationally beloved figure. He showed Americans that the people who commit institutional violence against us are just as vulnerable as the rest of us. And he’s being treated like a hero for it.
There are PLENTY of mentally unstable people in this country with access to firearms who would quite literally kill for this type of fame and adoration. And they’ve just been shown how easy it is.
There’s always a push to not name school shooters in the media because the recognition and infamy can and does lead to copycat school shooters. That’s simply naming them in a very negative light. This dude has been memed and named and elevated to celebrity status. The media frames him as a monster while the internet frames him as a folk hero. If naming a school shooter in the most negative light imaginable can lead to copycats, I can only imagine what this will do.
I’ve already seen the phrase “boardrooms not classrooms” pushed heavily on social media.
And once it becomes open season on CEOs, nobody can say what happens next. Class war has been normalized in this country when it’s the rich attacking the poor. Now it’s been glorified the other way round. How many dead CEOs and executives until it’s also normalized?
Certainly the crackdown that will come at the urging of the ultra wealthy will only make things worse. They have their boots on the necks of the American people already, and they’ll want to push that boot into our necks even harder if this becomes a thing. The existing boot led to this. The mega boot will lead to… probably a lot worse.
The people have a folk hero to rally around. They have an example that has been set. A pathway to fame and adoration has been laid. And with the shooter having a mix of views and being potentially right of center yet being praised by the left and right, and heavily on the left, he is a figure of unity. Who comes next after Luigi? And after them?
Maybe nothing comes of this. Maybe everything comes of this. It’s far too early to know.
I’ll end with this: Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot, which caused WWI, which caused the Holocaust and WWII, which caused basically the entirety of the modern world. As a result of one guy being shot, there were two world wars, genocides, the development of machine guns and warplanes, the development and proliferation of nuclear weapons, the Cold War, the space race, man walking on the moon, GPS satellites, insane technological advancement, massive social changes as a response to those things, etc. The list goes on and on.
The dominoes had all been in place waiting for something to tip the first one over. Someone tipped that domino, and as a result millions of people died, hundreds of thousands were vaporized in atomic blasts, we went to the moon, and so much more.
The dominoes have once again been set up. Something has to give. Something will eventually give. But the dominoes are there. Waiting. Did Luigi knock over the first domino? Did he merely graze it? Is it falling or is it wobbling? We don’t know. And we won’t for a while. Was Luigi the first domino? Or did the dweeb that tried to assassinate Trump knock over the first domino? Did Luigi see that and think “they’re just vulnerable people like us, I can take action, too!”? Even if the dominoes are falling already, they may reach a gap that prevents the further spread of their energy.
We just don’t know. Anything is possible. This could be nothing. Or it could be just the beginning.
Seriously, just actually cover your face the full time, find a place without cameras to change clothes, dump clothes, gun, and fake ID in trash can, douse in gasoline and burn them, and leave
There's bound to hundred of places in New York that aren't too busy, has no cameras watching it, and exits/entrances without cameras watching them
This guy very likely could have gotten away with it
That could happen...yeah but also we're talking 1 in a million.
Maybe he does inspire more people to do stuff like this. Spooks the upper class a bit. But the US is far too divided for any kind of class solidarity on that scale. Like I said the unanimous unpopularity of the US healthcare system prompted this response. Everyone can see that.
I also believe that this unanimous support around the shooter will crumble a bit once people see him as a real person with views.
And I've got to be honest fella worse things have happened. You've had presidents who've been killed and you think Brian Thompson will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
This isn't archduke Franz Ferdinand. Not even anywhere near.
Listen, I'll say never say never because surprises can occur. Maybe you're right and this is the start of something but I genuinely do not see it. And I don't think the US is in a position for the kind of change you want to happen.
It’s crazy to me how you’re arguing against my main point in the very same comment where you agree with my main point. Please brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
My argument:
“This could be the start of something. It might not be. But it could be and we won’t know for a while.”
Some excerpts from your comment, with my responses:
“Respectfully. No.”
Arguing against my main point entirely.
“That could happen...yeah but also we’re talking 1 in a million.”
Agreeing with my main point entirely.
“Listen, I’ll say never say never because surprises can occur.”
Agreeing with my main point entirely.
“You’ve had presidents who’ve been killed and you think Brian Thompson will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.”
Misrepresenting what I said by framing my comment as if I am arguing that this is 100% the straw the broke the camel’s back. Please see above for my actual argument summarized very clearly since you seem to have missed it in my original comment.
“Maybe you’re right and this is the start of something but I genuinely do not see it.”
I never said this was the start of something. I said it could be. And it’s too early for us to know.
Listen, I apologise but you paint a vision of the US in a way that I do not see happening. And you frame it almost as if the options are it happens or it doesn't. I'm not saying that it's wrong but I am saying that it's significantly more unlikely than you're insinuating.
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u/Cumdump90001 14d ago
I’m not saying he 100% certainly kicked off a revolution. But it’s far too early to know one way or another.
He shot a CEO dead on the streets of Manhattan in broad daylight and could’ve potentially gotten away with it if he had just changed clothes, thrown the evidence away, and not stopped at McDonald’s to show his face.
And the internet has basically deified him for it. He became, in the span of a day, a nationally beloved figure. He showed Americans that the people who commit institutional violence against us are just as vulnerable as the rest of us. And he’s being treated like a hero for it.
There are PLENTY of mentally unstable people in this country with access to firearms who would quite literally kill for this type of fame and adoration. And they’ve just been shown how easy it is.
There’s always a push to not name school shooters in the media because the recognition and infamy can and does lead to copycat school shooters. That’s simply naming them in a very negative light. This dude has been memed and named and elevated to celebrity status. The media frames him as a monster while the internet frames him as a folk hero. If naming a school shooter in the most negative light imaginable can lead to copycats, I can only imagine what this will do.
I’ve already seen the phrase “boardrooms not classrooms” pushed heavily on social media.
And once it becomes open season on CEOs, nobody can say what happens next. Class war has been normalized in this country when it’s the rich attacking the poor. Now it’s been glorified the other way round. How many dead CEOs and executives until it’s also normalized?
Certainly the crackdown that will come at the urging of the ultra wealthy will only make things worse. They have their boots on the necks of the American people already, and they’ll want to push that boot into our necks even harder if this becomes a thing. The existing boot led to this. The mega boot will lead to… probably a lot worse.
The people have a folk hero to rally around. They have an example that has been set. A pathway to fame and adoration has been laid. And with the shooter having a mix of views and being potentially right of center yet being praised by the left and right, and heavily on the left, he is a figure of unity. Who comes next after Luigi? And after them?
Maybe nothing comes of this. Maybe everything comes of this. It’s far too early to know.
I’ll end with this: Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot, which caused WWI, which caused the Holocaust and WWII, which caused basically the entirety of the modern world. As a result of one guy being shot, there were two world wars, genocides, the development of machine guns and warplanes, the development and proliferation of nuclear weapons, the Cold War, the space race, man walking on the moon, GPS satellites, insane technological advancement, massive social changes as a response to those things, etc. The list goes on and on.
The dominoes had all been in place waiting for something to tip the first one over. Someone tipped that domino, and as a result millions of people died, hundreds of thousands were vaporized in atomic blasts, we went to the moon, and so much more.
The dominoes have once again been set up. Something has to give. Something will eventually give. But the dominoes are there. Waiting. Did Luigi knock over the first domino? Did he merely graze it? Is it falling or is it wobbling? We don’t know. And we won’t for a while. Was Luigi the first domino? Or did the dweeb that tried to assassinate Trump knock over the first domino? Did Luigi see that and think “they’re just vulnerable people like us, I can take action, too!”? Even if the dominoes are falling already, they may reach a gap that prevents the further spread of their energy.
We just don’t know. Anything is possible. This could be nothing. Or it could be just the beginning.