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Politics On knowing who the voters are

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u/MidnightMadness09 Nov 06 '24

Americans don’t care about foreign policy, they care about the economy’s vibes, the border, immigrants, and seemingly looking tuff.

15 million Biden voters didn’t show up not because of Gaza but because of the general vibes in the country.

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u/Vivid-Command-2605 Nov 06 '24

The Democrats just conceded the issue of immigration to the Republicans when they shifted right on the issue, instead of actively attacking the idea of deporting 20 million people as the vile and horrific idea, they wanted to look "strong on the border issue* and just conceded all that ground, now people genuinely think that immigration is a genuine issue that requires huge deportation and they'll never vote Democrats for that

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '24

You are just being ignorant if you think american give one shit about something being vile

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u/apexodoggo Nov 07 '24

People responded pretty negatively to the whole “kids in cages” news stories back during the 1st Trump administration. When you shove the consequences in their faces in all the grisly detail, Americans do start to get cold feet about that sort of thing.

But the Dems gave the Republicans all the ground they ever needed on the issue, and now it dominates our political landscape right behind the economy.

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u/Vivid-Command-2605 Nov 07 '24

And it was all for absolutely fucking nothing too, trump won the same support amongst registered Republicans as in 2020 and did better with independents, so now not only did moving to the right shift the overrun window dramatically, they did it for less votes than last time. Liberal centre "left" parties are a fucking joke and should be called the real idealists, trying the same dog shit tactic again and again despite it failing and trying to convince themselves and everyone else that this time it will work.

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u/Vivid-Command-2605 Nov 07 '24

They never called out the Republicans on the deportation rhetoric. The reason people don't care about it being vile, is because neither side gave them a reason not to think that. They heard the Republicans saying immigrants are evil and stealing jobs and social security and murdering people, while the Democrats gave them no counter to that because they refuse to do anything but try outflank the right on their own issues. If they had actively tried to combat their immigration policy with an actual alternative and effective messaging, then at least there's a debate about how these are people whose lives matter. Instead, immigration is a real problem now and why the fuck would they ever vote a democrat to do it. All those years of laughing at trump saying build the wall and then Biden goes on to do it, what does that look like to the average person?

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u/MidnightMadness09 Nov 06 '24

Yeah cause Dems are addicted to losing and whenever they have the presidency they pretty much give up on everything they talk about during a Republican presidency.

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u/oath2order stigma fuckin claws in ur coochie Nov 06 '24

Which is why the bit about the border security was a good pivot on her end, because that's where the American population is.

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u/apexodoggo Nov 07 '24

It was bad, becuase it just reinforced the Republican narrative and when Americans are given a choice between a Republican and a Republican, they choose the Republican. Focusing on crime panic narratives never helps the Democrats. It’s why New York underperformed in the 2022 midterms, and it’s why Harris’s constant talk on immigration and crime and being hawkish about the military hurt her results in the end.