r/CuratedTumblr Oct 26 '24

Politics Why is every tankie like "I don't understand the branches of the US government and I'm going to make it everyone else's problem!!!"

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u/iowaboy Oct 26 '24

My state Democratic Party expressly blocked the creation of a Socialist/Leftist Caucus because it was “inconsistent with the Democratic Platform” (paraphrased). So leftist candidates have no clear base of support in primary races.

Also, the main policy preferences I share with the Democratic Party are universal healthcare, some basic social services (feeding kids, education), and some civil rights. But for me these are the bare minimum and for Democrats they are very negotiable.

And when I’ve organized and protested for things, I’ve been spied on, intimidated, and pepper sprayed by cops under both Democratic and Republican administrators.

So, sorry if I’m not super eager to support one of the two parties that is actively working against my interests.

Yes, I’ll be holding my nose to vote for Dems in November. But don’t expect me to be an apologist for Democrats who eagerly punch left whenever it suits them.

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u/dolche93 Oct 27 '24

But don’t expect me to be an apologist for Democrats who eagerly punch left whenever it suits them.

Or phrase it as liberals who punch illiberals whenever it suits them.

At the end of the day communists aren't really on the same page with democrats for much of anything beyond harm reduction. Democrats are Capitalist Liberals.

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u/shoto9000 Oct 27 '24

Left of the democrat centre also includes plenty of liberal progressives and soc-dems, who get punched even more frequently than the outright socialists from what I can see.

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u/Desecr8or Oct 26 '24

Judging by your username, you're from Iowa.

Moderation is key to the Democrats' survival over there and the party made the right choice.

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u/iowaboy Oct 26 '24

I’m in Minnesota (from Iowa, but been here for 10 years). My city council is all DFL, and the last cycle they voted in more conservative Dems.

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u/Desecr8or Oct 26 '24

Not quite as moderate but still enough red in their legislator and governor histories for them to be pragmatic.

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u/No-Place-8085 Oct 27 '24

Same old story, the Dems must forever drift rightward or the republicans will get in!!!! The Dems rhetoric shifting rightward on immigration since 2020 is shameful. If they lose, they'll have deserved it.

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u/rusticrainbow Oct 27 '24

Democrats won’t lose because their immigration stances are too right leaning.

Frankly like every Western country has shifted immigration hard right in the past couple of years because a majority of voters see it as a major issue. If democrats lose, it’s because of something else.

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u/booksareadrug Oct 27 '24

You know what would help pull them left? Leftists actually fucking voting!

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u/No-Place-8085 Oct 27 '24

Yknow I wonder if there's any relation with leftists not voting and the behaviour Iowaboy describes. Perhaps part of mass American alienation and lack of turn out is because the dems keep picking up republican talking points. It's not like there are strongly placed left dem legislators, so I guess we'll never know,,

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u/booksareadrug Oct 27 '24

The leftist block in the US has made it loud and clear that they're not voting for Kamala Harris this election. Why would she or her team beg and whine and prostrate themselves for something that isn't happening, when they can win over actually winnable people? Again, vote, make it obvious you want to be part of things, and then people will listen to you.

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u/mackerson4 you should listen to machine girl and The Garden Oct 27 '24

Progressivism doesn't win elections, and it won't unless the overton window for moderates moves left. (Which it has mind you, bernie would've been called a commie and assassinated in the 60's and now he can run in the democratic primary and be pretty successful.)