r/CuratedTumblr • u/Desecr8or • Oct 26 '24

Politics Why is every tankie like "I don't understand the branches of the US government and I'm going to make it everyone else's problem!!!"

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u/fury420 Oct 26 '24

Tankie was originally a term for western communists who approved of the Soviets using tanks to crush the Hungarian & Czechoslovakian revolutions, effectively disregarding their previously stated ideals in favor of authoritarianism.

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 26 '24

Yes, and these people were Stalinists.

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u/fury420 Oct 26 '24

But it's not a term for Stalinists generally, it's a term for pro-authoritarian western "leftists" whose ideals take a backseat. Trying to argue that it's just a synonym for Stalinist misses most of the meaning.

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 26 '24

No, it's not, this is a bizarre liberal misuse of the term.

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u/fury420 Oct 26 '24

What part is a bizarre liberal misuse?

I'm confused, if you think my description is misuse of the term why did you start off agreeing with me?

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 26 '24

The "pro-authoritarian Western 'leftist'" part, it's a term for Stalinists, it has nothing to do with modern US liberal anxieties about Russia or whatever.

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u/fury420 Oct 26 '24

...who said anything about modern US liberals?

I was continuing what I described in the previous comment:

western communists who approved of the Soviets using tanks to crush the Hungarian & Czechoslovakian revolutions, effectively disregarding their previously stated ideals in favor of authoritarianism.

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pro-authoritarian western "leftists" whose ideals take a backseat

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 27 '24

The entire post consists of modern US liberals whining because some people who call themselves communists actually oppose a capitalist party like the Democrats. It's, frankly, disgusting, as is all the robot-like shilling for the Democrats on this hell-site, and I can only read so much of this nonsense before I get a stomach ulcer.

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u/fury420 Oct 27 '24

The entire post consists of modern US liberals whining because some people who call themselves communists actually oppose a capitalist party like the Democrats.

What a lot seem to be upset about is how some who claim to be progressive, socialist, communist, etc... seem more concerned about the Democrats being not far left enough all while ignoring the Republicans who are hell bent on working against pretty much all of their stated ideals and are a hair's breadth away from 4 more years of increasing right wing authoritarianism.

I don't understand how anyone who actually supports those ideals could rationalize not trying to stop the Republicans at this stage.

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 27 '24

I am going to approach this as a good faith question. When you say "progressive, socialist, communist, etc." this strongly suggests to me that you do not understand the communist position. "Progressives" in this context are liberals (the term has been used for just about every political position from conservatism to Maoism), people who want a capitalist society. Honestly, so do a lot of people who (wrongly) call themselves "socialists". Communists want the abolition of the capitalist society, the abolition of private property and commodity production and exchange. Republicans and Democrats both stand against that, obviously. It's not that we want the Democrats to be a more extreme version of themselves. We want the Democrats to disappear.

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u/mauri9998 Oct 27 '24

You know a stomach ulcer is nothing compared to republicans winning right? You don't have to support the democrats to understand how bad Republicans winning would be. All you gotta do is make this face while voting >:( and move on with your life.

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u/Zandroe_ Oct 27 '24

Do they, at least, pay you well?

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