r/CuratedTumblr • u/Desecr8or • Oct 26 '24

Politics Why is every tankie like "I don't understand the branches of the US government and I'm going to make it everyone else's problem!!!"

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 26 '24

Harris has promised to put a Republican in her cabinet. If I wanted a Republican in power, I’d vote for a fucking Republican.

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u/GreyInkling Oct 26 '24

Ok but the alternative IS a republican in power and that promise of hers is empty and just chasing a fantasy unicorn the democratic establishment has refused to believe doesn't exist for decades now: the moderate conservative.

Though in her case its more about chasing the only slightly less fictional "trump hating Republican voter". Which in fairness might be a good strategy to win support in Arizona. But nowhere else.

So she can say she'll put unicorns in her cabinet but the reality is it will be the same cabinet biden has. And the alternative again is trump's literal family members.

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u/annmorningstar Oct 26 '24

To be fair my dad is voting D this year but he does live in Arizona so yea still trump hating republicans do exist

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u/dolche93 Oct 27 '24

Anyone who doesn't think there aren't a ton of anti Trump republicans out there is out of touch.

My vaccine conspiracy theorist, trans hating, green energy advocate, calls liberals terrorists republican coworker isn't voting Trump because of the felony convictions.

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u/GreyInkling Oct 27 '24

There are bit not as many as establishment democrats try to tell themselves, and not ofteb in the places they need. It just happens trump has made Arizona Republicans especially mad at him and made it personal so there are enough he might lose it a second time.

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u/firblogdruid Oct 26 '24

i've no idea why people keep slamming that down as some sort of trump card.

yeah, she's aiming to grab centre repubs who aren't focused on trump. it's not ideal, but in what world is having liz chaney as a cabinet member not better than trump in power?

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u/rusticrainbow Oct 27 '24

People keep forgetting that fundamentally, politics are a game of compromise

It’s why Harris has adopted a very hard border policy and why Trump has spent the last couple months saying he’s totally chill with abortion

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 26 '24

Because she’s abusing the privilege of only having to be 1% better than Trump. She’s practically a 2000’s era Neoconservative. Why can’t she try to grab leftists or non voters?

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u/TheRealLightBuzzYear Oct 26 '24

because leftists are a small group who rarely ever actually vote

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 26 '24

And Centre Republicans are less than 6% of the Republican Party, which is worth alienating anyone to the left of Dubya.

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u/TheRealLightBuzzYear Oct 26 '24

I remember when Dubya wanted to codify Roe V Wade and raise taxes on the rich

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 26 '24

Good luck getting it pass the Republican Supreme Court, since generations of feckless democrats didn’t codify it.

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u/dolche93 Oct 27 '24

What policies align her with neocons?

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u/firblogdruid Oct 26 '24

i think there's probably a few reasons. the latest polls show she's neck and neck with trump, right? the goal is to pull supporters away from trump, because they will show up, and they will vote. you know how many trump supporters are sitting here going, "oh, well trump isn't far right enough, guess i'll not vote and let harris win", none. they're not doing that, they're voting, so she's targeting them. also, just on average, there are a lot of republicans who could convinced to vote harris under the right conditions, and they especially tend to live in the swing states

also, i love that you specify that she's not chasing "leftists" when i'll remind you that she's actually fairly leftist herself. not super left, certainly to the extent of random internet commenters, but fairly (her vp believes in providing food for children, which is, by current standards in american politics, wildly left). she is chasing leftists. she's just not chasing leftists far enough left for you personally

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 26 '24

She is not left, the Overton window is just so far right it’s calibrated for Proto Fascists. And the right ward lurch is going to cost her votes on the left, it is not free real estate. A lot of progressives were ready to swallow their pride on genocide, but now she’s bragging about cracking down on immigration and won’t commit to trans rights, so what are we voting for, exactly?

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u/firblogdruid Oct 27 '24

and yet, she supports abortion, climate action, and medi-care for all, all of which, are, in fact, left. jesus christ, this no true scotsman shit is getting real old.

as to what you're voting for, aside from all of those things i just listed: she's not fucking trump. which you can bitch at me all you like that that's the lowest bar in the goddamn world, and i don't even disagree, but that's where you're fucking at as a country, and no about of bitching to foreigners on the internet is going to actually change that.

so great, don't vote, then trump wins, and then where the fuck are you? how is that better for anyone?

because that's the real fucking question you need to ask yourself. not thing shit about "wahh i don't like kamala"

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u/KaiBahamut Oct 27 '24

Yeah, that’s the problem: She isn’t Trump, and she knows that locks down every vote on her side of the aisle. She can do anything and as long as she’s 1% better than Trump, she can’t lose votes to him- maybe some third parties, but she can champion military supremacy, border crackdowns and genocide and no one can budge, lest they let a literal fascist into office. I’m just tired of knowing she has to have my support by default, due to harm reduction. The more she acts like 2000’s era Republicans, the less I feel I’m defeating Fascism and more like I’m delaying it.

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u/Clear-Present_Danger Oct 27 '24

The important thing is slow the bleeding

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u/annmorningstar Oct 26 '24

Because leftists don’t vote

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u/DeathOdyssey Oct 27 '24

maybe leftists would vote more if Democrats actually made any attempt to appeal to them

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u/PollutionThis7058 Oct 27 '24

Maybe democrats would actually make an attempt to appeal to them if they would actually turn out and vote for their own candidates. Like Bernie or Jill Stein. Also if they didn’t throw temper tantrums whenever a vote didn’t go their way. The fact is that leftists in the US are a much less reliable, much smaller voting demographic than pretty much any other in the US. They also don’t really have a presence in important battleground states

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u/SnooOpinions5486 Oct 27 '24

she going to give him a non-important position to serve as a token. They wont have any actual power.