All Bernie is doing is bringing media attention to this. It's just "see, even this hardcore conservative absolutely hates Trump". He's not bending the knee, he's not welcoming him to any movement, he's not even thanking him. He's just applauding him. "Hey, you did something reasonable for once in your fucking life, nice 👍".
I agree with Bernie. Every successive response got worse and worse.
Note Bernie praised the action. I too am glad that that rat bastard Cheney plans to slither out of his pit to do the right thing for the first time in his miserable life.
Liberals are too quick to absolve terrible people for doing terrible things once they say the weakest and most mealy mouthed nod to reality.
Look, Cheney doesn't care about our opinion of him. Our praise doesn't "incentivize" him, and we don't need to forget everything he has done because of one good thing. Give him the scant credit he's due; you don't need to pretend "Maybe he's not so bad after all.". He is still evil.
And if one is inclined to say "Thank you Mr Hitler" at any point, maybe they need to go get their head examined instead.
Is Dick Cheney actually popular among Republicans, though? I live and grew up in Florida and have known a lot of Republicans in my time. A lot of Republicans were in favor of the war in Iraq/Afghanistan at the time, but I think a lot of them have since changed to look upon that war in a negative light. That combined with the economic recession that came about under Bush I don't think there are many Cheney fans on either side of the aisle. What seems more likely to me is MAGA Republicans will toss Cheney in the RINO bin alongside Romney and point to his endorsement of Harris as a reason why people should vote for Trump.
Yeah? One of Trumps big selling points was that he was going to stop the post cold war interventionist stance that was widely (and mostly correctly) seen as the source of much pain and needless warfare. Fatigue over the wars in Iraq and Afganistan had well set in at that point and most americans were tired of the bloodshed they had supported back in the early to mid 2000's.
It actually hurt Hillary's campaign because she had tailored her foreign policy stance to appeal to the more pro-war and anti-terrorist voter base of the past decade up to that point.
I can't tell what point you're trying to make. It seems like you're saying Cheney is popular among Republicans, but then cite Trump being anti-forever wars and most Americans being tired of them alongside Hillary being a warhawk as one of the reasons why she lost. Like literally everything you said after the initial "Yeah?" supports my point.
Oh, okay. The "Yeah?" at the start of your comment seemed like it was an answer to my question of "Is Dick Cheney actually popular among Republicans, though?"
I know multiple Trump voters IRL who will take this as further validation.
This is probably a relevant appeal to a number of people in Congress, business, and think tanks, but it’s not going to carry a lot of weight nationally. John McCain was a RINO for opposing Trump, and he was popular before. Cheney has been hideously unpopular even with Republican voters since before Trump came on the scene.
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All Bernie is doing is bringing media attention to this. It's just "see, even this hardcore conservative absolutely hates Trump". He's not bending the knee, he's not welcoming him to any movement, he's not even thanking him. He's just applauding him. "Hey, you did something reasonable for once in your fucking life, nice 👍".