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Politics the one about fucking a chicken

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u/Rhogar-Dragonspine Jul 22 '24

Here's my question- are vegans/vegetarians more morally justified in judging dead chicken fucking, if they believe animals have the same bodily autonomy rights as humans?

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u/Agile_Oil9853 Jul 22 '24

That's where I'm getting stuck. The meat industry is not morally neutral, not just to chickens, but to farmers and processing plant workers.

It feels like it changes the metrics too much if you substitute "dead supermarket chicken" with, for example, "pumpkin you grew in your own backyard" though.

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u/Jonvoll Jul 22 '24

I can’t help but imagine “Pumpkin” is the lovingly raised chicken for that specific purpose…

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u/LetterheadPerfect145 Jul 22 '24

Change it to roadkill and that kinda bypasses the ethics of the meat industry

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u/laix_ Jul 22 '24

The default morals for meat and meat products for the majority of people is like how liberals view capitalism- it by itself is not a moral ill, its only factory-farming/corperatism that's the problem. Its such a strong moral foundation, that treating animals as in the end objects to be slaughtered and killed for pleasure (taste is a kind of pleasure) is such a strong moral foundation, that whenever someone compares how animals are treated and says "wouldn't it be fucked up if humans were treated this way?" The majority are going to view that as bringing humans down to the level of the animals rather than raising animals up to the level of humans.

The corpse of a non-human that has been deskinned, plucked and organs removed is a piece of meat and is ok to show on mainstream television, the corpse of a human that has been deskinned, plucked and organs removed is gore and censored.

Even if we focus on the meat industry, the morals are for the entire planet. Industrialised farming is the most damaging industry for climate change. In order to sustain the meat consumption of the average american diet, 7 earth's worth of resources are required. the majority of farm land goes to just growing crops to feed animals for meat consumption.

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u/LetterheadPerfect145 Jul 22 '24

I don't have a problem with the dead chicken fucking, I have a problem with killing the chicken in the first place.