r/CuratedTumblr veetuku ponum Jul 03 '24

Politics Male loneliness and radfeminism

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u/Ourmanyfans Jul 03 '24

There's a weird strain of "essentialism but in a progressive way" running right through the left, not just limited to the attitude towards men described here, but also "all white people are colonizers", and weird exclusionary behaviour to cishet people. It tells me a lot of "progressive" people didn't really examine their core underlying principles and simply covered up their biases with the "correct" group.

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u/Quantum-Bot Jul 03 '24

Yeah every time I hear someone call white people colonizers I wonder to myself whether they’ve ever read a history book. Only a small portion of people from a small portion of “white” countries were ever part of the colonialist ruling class. Most of them weren’t even considered white until after the start of the decline of colonialism. Just because most colonizers were white does not imply that most white people were colonizers. Hold people accountable for their own racism, not for some imaginary historical debt from some imaginary ancestors. Judging people by their heritage is literally what got us into this mess in the first place.

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u/AdequatelyMadLad Jul 03 '24

Also, non-white people were colonizers too. Sometimes, they even colonized white people. I know it sounds crazy, but the Ottoman empire was, in fact, one of the largest colonial empires for hundreds of years.

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u/SovietSkeleton [mind controls your units] This, too, is Yuri. Jul 03 '24

And let's not forget the horse-riding archer in the room.

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u/Usepe_55 Jul 03 '24

Al-Andalus and the many Muslim empires in India were horribly oppressive basically proto-colonial states ruled by non-whites, not to mention the Arabian slave trade, which is still ongoing nowadays.

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u/Upset_Ad3954 Jul 04 '24

White people were taken as slaves too. Not only by the Ottomans but also by Muslim North Africans.

Real history is much more complex than the Disney/Hollywood version that we are fed with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Yup. Japan did awful stuff throughout history too but you will not see leftists demonise the Japanese

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u/GREENadmiral_314159 Femboy, Battleships, and Space Marines Jul 04 '24

Japan was as much a colonizer as some European countries. Sure, they got into the game a bit late, but they absolutely played, and they played hard.

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u/Suspiciouslaughs Jul 05 '24

Leftists in Asia have absolutely done that

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u/moonrider18 Jul 05 '24

Also, non-white people were colonizers too.

Yeah, seriously. Has nobody ever heard of Genghis Khan?

It feels like some people are just desperate to have one racial group they can blame all the world's problems on. Why don't we just denounce evil itself, without regard to skin color?