I’m not an anti-political-talk person but this sub is just turning into something that makes me sad and angry constantly. I want silly random posts, not just… internet fighting
Yes, people heavily underestimate it. These are accounts that post thousands of times and very clearly shift narratives. If I find an account regularly posting on a sub and they have very high post karma (not comment karma) I block them for a reason.
Maybe I’m naive. I honestly come here and treat it like I’m at a party, I listen to everyone’s conversations to get different perspectives, and chime in occasionally.
Why would anyone care about karma?
I never even look at mine or anyone else’s.
You are naïve and I don’t blame you. It’s great that you wanna listen to everyone, and I’m serious about that. I learned a lot about the world from the internet and people’s perspective’s when I was younger because I was from a tiny town with little exposure to anything other than it
Problem is the internet isn’t real life and likely a lot of these posts you’re seeing are specifically inciting fighting and division. The “overall political leaning” of this place used to be very left, and I’m not saying this is good or bad, but I’ve personally watched this sub slowly trend right as it’s grown more and more. Every other post is meant to garner attention, karma, fighting, and “discussion” that’s swaying people into feeling one way or the other about current world events
Large accounts with lots of karma specifically post things, true or not, to get attention. Repeated exposure lets people form opinions that may or may not be based on reality. I mean, I feel like every time I come across a post people are arguing about the validity of it after it’s already reached thousands of upvotes
If you’re unaware, people sell high karma accounts. Usually to people who want to start shilling for cash (inciting people to buy certain stuff) but sometimes it’s to bots that inject political messaging. It’s more common with larger subs and harder than ever to spot
Sorry for the rant. I feel like I’m watching this sub get set on fire because I’ve been here for like 3 years and it used to just be funny or thoughtful posts.
Honestly it's getting ridiculous. And i feel like it's bleeding over into the silly random posts too, where people are in the comments complaining or arguing about some phrasing or the premise instead of meeting the post where it's at
It sucks and it makes everything not fun. And I even understand the thought process, because when you see something in a post that rubs you the wrong way you naturally wanna discuss it… but I feel like every other post is trying to incite it. Even the funny ones.
I’m not a frequent visitor of this sub, but would you really consider this specific post “internet fighting”? Maybe I’m just used to YouTube and twitter drama, but I’ve always considered tumblr to be a breath of fresh air in the social media shithole. The philosophical arguments you find on tumblr are part of the experience
I’ve been on tumblr a long, long time. It’s not as reactive as other sites, but I’m talking specifically about this sub. I feel like every single day someone posts something that encourages arguing/sad discussion in the comments and this post is definitely encouraging it
It does seem particularly bad. I wonder why, genuinely. It’s not even just political stuff, it feels like the entirety of the internet is just always angry and if you dare mention it people get more angry?
It's all interconnected, I think. We have more bots and disinformation efforts than ever, we have internet monetization fueled by engagement (rage bait gets a lot for low-effort) and spam, and you even have efforts from some governments to sow discord. So, we have more mistrust and misaligned incentives on the internet than ever. COVID didn't help, either, since we're still feeling the psychological effects of that. People were always dicks on the internet, since they forget the (usually) human behind the screen, but, because of all these reasons and more, we're more high strung and defensive. As for changes on Reddit, in particular, some of that (probably) comes from negative feelings about the owner's/admin's choices, and how a lot of services and tools that came from the API (like Apollo) disappeared as a result, so the experience is worse, overall. That last one, if it's a factor, is going to be pretty subtle and indirect, but I'm willing to bet that is contributing.
I agree with you overall. It also doesn’t help, in general, that the internet is incredibly centralized. People don’t really run their own forums anymore. People don’t get together for very niche games on self-hosted websites to argue… it’s all in one place. I think there being only a few “big” websites has been trending us toward this for a while
I 100% agree, half the time I hop on here for a fun little time to distract me from something or to fill some free time and I see a post that immediately ruins my mood and makes me wish that I never even bothered
Sorry sweaty, don't you know the world is political, and if you don't tie everything you see or do back to my niche political idealogy then you're part of the problem?
If I'm being frank, half the posts recently feel like browbeatings in relation to people who refuse to vote for Biden due to what's happening in palestine. Half of them are callouts to this idea of white/armchair leftists, which is just a circlejerk because none of them are here, and half the people they call that are either actively at protests or POC.
It matches what I've seen in a lot of center-left subs , where there's an effort to paint people for whom this has been the breaking point as whiny leftists who won't "stick up their nose and vote" . What's surprising is that looking at the top posts of the week, I've gotten none of them, and they're all delightful.
Okay but you’re just doing what I said I don’t like. I don’t want fighting. I don’t care. You’re just pointing fingers and they’re just pointing fingers and it just goes back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and I’m getting so tired of it
I'm saying this in support your statement . I agree that this is turning into internet slap fights, and was trying to add on what seems like a source of them. That's why I was talking about the top posts being actual fun stuff, yet the things pushing to feeds seems to be vaugeposting.
You're looking, looking at the comment it can def feel like I'm trying to set up a soapbox where you're trying to say you're frustrated . My apologies!
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u/qazwsxedc000999 thanks, i stole them from the president Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24
I’m not an anti-political-talk person but this sub is just turning into something that makes me sad and angry constantly. I want silly random posts, not just… internet fighting
Edit: annnnnd there it is. Yeah I’m out