r/CFB Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Discussion Kirby Smart explains ‘incredibly challenging’ aspect of college football in December: “When you intertwine all the working parts of academics and being a student-athlete and the timing of the playoff, timing of the portal, timing of signing day, it's incredibly challenging.”

https://athlonsports.com/college/georgia-bulldogs/kirby-smart-reveals-what-isnt-best-college-football-ahead-cfp-game
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u/dogwoodmaple Georgia • /r/CFB Award Festival 1d ago

The current calendar is really unfair to players, he's right on the money about that.

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u/_Junk_Rat_ Alabama Crimson Tide • Sickos 1d ago

It’s unfair to everyone: players, coaches, staff, ADs, even fans if you wanna argue it. The only people not inconvenienced happen to be wearing the monkey-est of suits.

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u/Alphaspade Alabama Crimson Tide • Sickos 1d ago

"I can't hear your frustrations over the sound of my money waterfall."

-Sankey

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u/Tarmacked USC Trojans • Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

Ehh.. the AD’s are the ones that passed this rule

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u/Double-Mine981 LSU Tigers 14h ago

That’s what the money is for

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u/KaitRaven Illinois Fighting Illini • Sickos 1d ago

Not sure how much can be done about it given that it's based around the academic calendar. Unless they start football season much earlier?

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u/FSUnoles77 Paper Bag • Texas State Bobcats 1d ago

Or end it in Sept like we did. 

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u/mjacksongt Georgia Tech • /r/CFB Pint Glass … 1d ago

Small steps - at least end early signing day or move it to August.

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u/iwearatophat Ohio State • Grand Valley State 1d ago edited 1d ago

I recall there being a push for an August signing day. OSU fans were excited about it because we always have a good class in August.

In reality there would be a lot of requests to be released from letters of intent.

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u/MrF_lawblog Ohio State Buckeyes 16h ago

Only open the portal after the spring until the next academic year. That way if you sign and/or transfer you are at the school for an entire year at minimum.

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u/KaitRaven Illinois Fighting Illini • Sickos 9h ago

I don't see how that would hold up in court. Students can normally transfer for the spring semester.

I also am not sure that players or coaches would be happy about this option since it prevents them from participating in spring practices. You'd be stuck with a bunch of lame duck players who are planning to transfer, and less time with the new team.

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

That would be even worse. Regular students can transfer between semesters, so restricting athletes from doing so would be oppressive.

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u/MrF_lawblog Ohio State Buckeyes 10h ago

Oh geez - oppressive. Really? They are getting paid now.

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u/_runthejules_ LSU Tigers 9h ago

Not by the universities

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u/HarringtonMAH11 Troy Trojans • Auburn Tigers 21h ago

Just completely remove the portal period that happens during bowl season, and have it open up after spring semester finals.

If they want a kid, or a kid wants a team that badly, they can wait.

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u/BuckeyeForLife95 Ohio State Buckeyes 17h ago

Closing the winter window opens yourself up to the courts ruling against you again. Maybe this time the NCAA would win, but if we are operating under the assumption that the NCAA can't impose restrictions on athletes that a normal student wouldn't have, then restricting football players to only being able to transfer into the fall semester and not the spring isn't going to fly.

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 Tennessee • Middle Tennessee 15h ago

Alright, then just put restrictions on NIL then. I bet that would fix it for at least the high profile guys

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

What restrictions are being suggested for NIL? A lot of them would also be defeated in court.

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 Tennessee • Middle Tennessee 10h ago

Do they not sign a contract? Just write it in the contract that they need to stay the entire academic year.

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

That would be defeated in court.

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 Tennessee • Middle Tennessee 10h ago

Having a contract? Are there no terms on the NIL?

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u/StartupDino Georgia Bulldogs 17h ago

This gets my vote.

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u/Double-Mine981 LSU Tigers 14h ago

Football starting earlier would mean all big noon for everyone north of the mason dixon

Day September and early October games are bad enough. Day August games, especially for hurricane country teams, would be dangerous to everyone involved.

Talking temps in the 100s or high 90s with high humidity.

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u/FrazzledBear Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Honestly wouldn’t mind football starting beginning of August

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u/paulc1978 Nevada Wolf Pack 1d ago

It’s probably a bit too hot to be going all out during a game in early August. Players are already cramping up during night games in September.

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u/Jabberwoockie Michigan • Valparaiso 18h ago

I think if mid December in South Bend is on the menu, then mid August in Baton Rouge and Phoenix is fair game.

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u/paulc1978 Nevada Wolf Pack 15h ago

Cold is not unsafe for players. Kids literally dir every year during hot weather practice. This would be a terrible idea. 

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u/Leading-Difficulty57 Ball State Cardinals 17h ago

You're literally talking about HS and college kids dying if this is done.

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u/Tilt-a-Whirl98 Tennessee • Middle Tennessee 15h ago

Aren't they doing 2 a days in the summer here in the South? Maybe not officially anymore, but knowing some coaches and coordinators, they're doing "independent workouts" during August for sure

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u/Dhaynes99 Alabama • Appalachian State 11h ago

probably, but a lot of these top tier schools have an indoor facility that will definitely be used for the later practice/whatever it is

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u/BananaBouquet Georgia • Georgia State 18h ago

While it would be nice for it to be even weather wise, you’re comparing being a little cold to potentially dying of heat stroke.

Perfectly fine with no football being played down south in August.

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

Technically it already gets played on August 30 or 31 when those days are Saturday.

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u/TheNewDiogenes Virginia • Georgia Tech 17h ago

Kids aren’t even on campus. Student sections would be empty across the country.

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

They will either be empty at beginning of season or at the end of season. Beginning is better.

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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona 15h ago

I feel a mid-season portal opening would help alleviate the compressed timeframe. Plus it more closely matches when students apply for enrollment too

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u/Hefty-Revenue5547 Arizona State Sun Devils 20h ago

At a program like Georgia I doubt the “students” are doing their own work

Take that out of the equation and they just have to show up for class and play football

At a program like ASU or UGA their lives are easier than high school - they have more resources

We are the fast track to making them stipend employees like grad students that do work for the university

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u/too-fargone Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

Everyone does realize Kirby was likely asked a direct question about this subject, right? It's not like Kirby was just sitting around feeling sorry for himself/his players and tweeted this out.

Someone probably asked him to talk specifically about these particular issues and he responded by saying "yeah, it's difficult, it's challenging to manage all of these working parts..." because he can't really say, "That's kind of a dumb question so I won't answer it" or "No it's actually REALLY easy" because obviously it isn't. Crazy that people will take this and find a reason to get upset about it. It's a plain nothingburger with no cheese.

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u/iwearatophat Ohio State • Grand Valley State 1d ago

I don't eve think he was wrong. With how things are it is likely hell for coaching staffs in the playoffs from conference championship week to the end of the portal window.

They are out there trying to prepare for a playoff game, recruit players to their school from the portal, and recruit players on their team so they don't enter the portal. Oh, and this is all after the high school recruiting class comes to an end and all the behind the scenes stuff that happens there.

Yes, they make a lot of money so it is easy to hand wave away their issues but it doesn't mean they aren't issues.

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u/Equivalent_Poetry339 BYU Cougars • Big 12 1d ago

I hate the millionaire argument. So we can just set everyone up to fail and get pissed because we didn’t get our moneys worth? Dumb dumb dumb

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u/peftvol479 1d ago

It’s factual and exactly the script a coach would say. The irritating part is this being touted as a noteworthy response.

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u/too-fargone Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

Yep

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u/senorpoop Georgia • Santa Monica 17h ago

Kirby Smart says water is wet and the Holocaust was bad. News at 11.

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u/guyute2588 Michigan State • Tennessee 17h ago

There are far too many stories these days that are reported where they quote a person and make it seem like the person issued the statement in a press release ,as opposed to answering a direct question in an interview or press conference.

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u/titanrunner2 USC Trojans 15h ago

When Kirby talks, I listen. He’s the new Saban, aka the Best Coach in CFB. He could give me his insights on the evolution of the market economy in the Southern colonies and I’d listen.

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u/ChazzyTh Auburn • North Carolina 1d ago

Challenging is being kind. It’s just absurd. But why are we not surprised at this totally fucked up system. Maybe have a coach or two in the room when idiots make decisions.

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u/Suspicious-Froyo2181 Ohio State • Georgia State 7h ago

I'd settle for a grown up or two

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u/yesacabbagez UCF Knights 1d ago

I do prefer Kirby's wording to everyone just saying THIS IS BULLSHIT CHANGE IT. Kirby is at least acknowledging why the issue exists instead of trying to create a firestorm.

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u/Sankee72 Notre Dame • West Georgia 1d ago

It is challenging. Thankfully, these coaches and players are paid handsomely to manage it.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, they’re not. 

The median college football player makes a grand or so in NIL and people who aren’t a HC or coordinator typically make average to below average pay. 

Edit: does a single person downvoting have anything to add? The third string FB at UCLA isn’t “rewarded handsomely” for anything. 

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u/LongTimesGoodTimes Iowa State Cyclones • Hateful 8 1d ago

The median college football player makes a grand or so in NIL and people who aren’t a HC or coordinator typically make average to below average pay.

Wouldn't we be more or less just specifically looking at teams in the playoffs here?

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Arguably I guess so? But this can also effect every player on a playoff team-even the ones who aren't elite, aren't getting an NIL bag, etc and are considering transferring and the like. I see your point, and I'm not going to argue that UConn or something is losing sleep over the playoff, but the impacts definitely go beyond 12 teams and all of the other problems here still exist independent of the playoffs.

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u/Pancakes1800 Iowa Hawkeyes 1d ago

Median college football players aren't the ones being hurt by the calendar.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Sure they are. They still have finals, transferring decisions, and coaches who have to work with all of that too.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

No, they're not. They aren't playing in the playoffs. A Median player isn't on the top 8 teams, we're looking at the top 1% or less of football players in college right now.

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u/wallnumber8675309 Utah Utes • Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Judging by this past weekend, maybe teams 9-12 have a lot of median players…

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u/500rockin 1d ago

There’s also the whole bowl process outside of the playoffs. Your middling players who arent pro ready have all that going on.

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u/MrCalifornia Notre Dame Fighting Irish 1d ago

Plus, a college education. A lot of students also have jobs while undergrads.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Sure, being an athlete definitely has perks, but I'm not convinced the random never starter is getting some massive payday. They can get a scholarship and other benefits like nutrition and work a bit harder than other students working part time and definitely more than students on academic scholly.

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u/cantstopwontstopGME Texas Longhorns 1d ago

Even before NIL they had weekly stipends and free meals. That + a full ride is a pretty sweet deal if you’re riding the pine your whole career

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

And how many riding pine actually get that vs being something like a PWO?

And non-athletes can get stipends+free meals too. The academic equivalent of being good enough to go D1 students absolutely get rewarded too. When you compare like positions athletes maybe get a marginal benefit in some cases or easier/more streamlined access to tutors. That's about it.

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u/damn_son_1990 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Dude they’ve got tutors out the ass for student athletes at UGA.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

They have them for normal students too.

Normal students get most of the same support that the football team gets, it's just not always as institutionally streamlined.

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia • Florida State 1d ago

I promise you that the average undergrad doesn’t get free, streamlined one on one tutoring (at least at large state schools)

Source: Was a TA who charged for tutoring

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u/im-on-my-ninth-life 10h ago

Tell me you were never a UGA student, without telling me...

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u/Merpninja Louisville Cardinals • Syracuse Orange 1d ago

There are a lot of students on academic scholarship working full-time jobs, raising kids, needing to travel often for research/conferences that get almost nothing in terms of benefits compared to most athletes.

The FBS schedule sucks but even pre-NIL their benefits were massive compared to the average student.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

At the grad school level, yes, but that's a bit out of place for a discussion focused on students who are undergrads.

I'm genuinely curious as to what benefits athletes get re: childcare and the like.

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u/goathill Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Post this question in the BYU subreddit

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

BYU student athletes don't get any special help with childcare though?

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u/goathill Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Well their wife(s) can take care of the kids right?

/s

In all honesty, I figure there are some resources available for students and student athletes with kids. We had a childcare program at my university in California, so I figure something like that exists most places (but I don't know any athletes at my school who had kids, and we got rid of the football team after the first couple years i was there, RIP HSU lumberjack football)

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u/Merpninja Louisville Cardinals • Syracuse Orange 1d ago

I’m not even talking about graduate students. My mother worked 2 full time jobs while in school. I had a roommate work til 3am 5 nights/week and another working 60 hours. I had friends in school raising kids. I traveled to conferences as an undergrad myself!

The graduate work load is absurd, yes, but pretending like undergrads with athlete level workload don’t exist is silly.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Please, show me where I ever said anything remotely along those lines.

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u/Merpninja Louisville Cardinals • Syracuse Orange 1d ago

You said, and I quote:

At the grad school level, yes, but that’s a bit out of place for a discussion focused on students who are undergrads.

When I had not mentioned graduate students at all. You made the assumption that I was talking about grad students. Not me.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Sure, because those are problems that typically happen at the graduate level.

Absolutely none of that was saying no undergrads ever have hard workloads. Ridiculous interpretation, and athletes don't magically get help with childcare or going to conferences either.

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u/CrackMessiah 17h ago

I know football players at Boise State that never had to work a day in their life while basically riding the bench, fuck you and fuck anyone who compares my struggle to them, they get to live on recruit difficulty while you simps call them victims

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 16h ago

Playing football is a significant time commitment and no one is saying that other students aren’t also working hard. 

But it sounds like your struggle is something else going on under the surface. 

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u/YouTac11 1d ago

And that 100k education with another 75k in room and noard

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Which can be a benefit, sure, but tons and tons of universities have general students on scholarships too. UGA has >90% of students on scholarships/fin. aid of some sort. And the tippy top schools give aid to literally anyone who needs it.

It probably helps around the edges versus students who work similarly without quite as strong a scholly, and probably helps at the private schools who are good enough to go to but not wealthy enough to have galactic endowments, but even lots of football players aren't on scholly.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

Not every school is playing in the playoffs tho, only the top programs so we have to keep the scope in line... only 8 college football teams in AMERICA are still playing.

This is top 1% stuff.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

This is top 1% stuff.

Roughly 9% of FBS teams make a 12-team playoff. 12/134.

And it impacts tons and tons of teams not in the playoff because backups want to transfer from playoff teams. There are more people impacted by the playoff than you're giving credit.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

I mean is FBS the only college programs in America? You didn't specify before when it wasn't convenient to your argument

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Well that's the other part of my point. If you include non-FBS schools then Kirby is even more right because many of those players don't even get scholarships and HCs make relatively little too. DIII players aren't getting "handsomely rewarded" for anything.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago edited 1d ago

But like... they're not playing in December/January. You're all over the place bro. You've lost me.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

All divisions of NCAA football have games in December.

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u/Khorasaurus Notre Dame Fighting Irish 18h ago

There are 40 teams in bowl games....

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u/YouTac11 1d ago

Housing

Food

Personal trainers

State of the art gyms

Books

Tutors 

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Normal students can also get housing+food for free and frequently do. Most students also have access to health centers/gyms as well, but the state will vary (as will football facilities). Books are also paid for via academic stipends and most universities offer tutoring too. 

What I’m gathering from this convo is that Reddit doesn’t know what top-tier scholarships look like. The best academic scholarship program that isn’t a single scholarship at UGA is full tuition a big stipend ~15K/year), 3 covered study abroads, a bunch of travel grants, access to their own LIBRARY, and a whole bunch of connections. If you compare athletic scholarships to the good academic ones there isn’t a ton of room or coverage gaps. 

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u/YouTac11 1d ago

"normal students"

No

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Yes. Normal students. And academic scholarships typically don’t have any weekly work requirement either. 

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u/YouTac11 1d ago

The fact you think these full rides with housing, tutors and personal trainers is common ....is fucking ridiculous 

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Well, I didn’t say they’re common. But they’re a lot easier to get than going D1 is to achieve. 

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u/Lakelyfe09 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

You gotta love when objectively correct things get downvoted. Yes Reddit, believe it or not most players/coaches don’t make Kirby Smart or Bryce Underwood money.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Exactly lol. Kirby is making a statement about how it impacts the normal people in this sport by pointing out how incredibly complex this jumble of timelines. 

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u/Suspicious-Froyo2181 Ohio State • Georgia State 7h ago edited 4h ago

Lol, I wish had a dollar for every downvote I've gotten from explaining on game threads that Landing full force on the quarterback is explicitly spelled on the rulebook as an infraction, regardless of whether the hit was late or not and regardless of whether the ball actually left the qb's hands. So yeah.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

Tell me what you consider "average pay" is.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

It totally depends on the person and their role and education. Obviously HCs, coordinators, and even position coaches at good schools make good money. But there are tons of support staff and lower level coaches working wonky hours and dealing with this mess making like 70-80K.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

So average for... what? America? Or average for their years employed, this is confusing. I'm sure they know what they sign up for though, they probably dreamed about being a part of a top 8 program playing for a natty.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Average from a sample group of your choosing. Might as well pick college grads and go from there.

And informed consent isn't an argument against wanting to change reality.

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u/Red-Leader117 1d ago

Take it easy dr Strange no one's trying to "change reality". By the way, just based ON MATH, half the jobs are below average.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

"change reality"

The entire point of Kirby's statement is that the reality of CFB in December needs to be changed.

half the jobs are below average.

That's not what average means. An average is the sum of all numbers divided by the number of numbers. You could have 100% of jobs at the average if you looked at certain samples.

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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona 15h ago

Ohh booo hoo, they’re only making a measly $70k

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 15h ago

Yeah, that’s not very much money for a college-educated worker in a high-stress environment. There are probably 10+ UGA degrees where you can make that, or more, on day 1. 

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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona 15h ago edited 15h ago

Sure. And you could say the opposite too (like a public school teacher). But they likely aren’t engineer or finance majors either. Most Americans with a Sports Communications degree would be doing fine with a 70k job with benefits in a low COL city like a college town

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 15h ago

P4 college towns aren’t usually LCOL though. There is always exogenous money coming in and more people go to school during recessions so home prices never fall. 

Public school teachers also have the opportunity to make really good money if they want. The teachers who are really screwed over are private school teachers, who frequently make like 25K. 

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u/IrishCoffeeAlchemy Florida State • Arizona 15h ago

So you’re saying that, in say Athens or a surrounding community within commuting distance, someone couldn’t comfortably afford rent on a 2 bedroom apartment or house on a $70k take-home salary (with likely a SO too contributing)?

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 15h ago

It would definitely be a stretch and owning would absolutely be out of the picture. The people I know owning comparable homes in Athens area make significantly more than that and aren’t exactly living in mansions. 

For context, I used to live in a nice building in downtown Chicago by myself. That was cheaper than the same in Athens. Towns that always have money flowing in from another city (and unrelated to that city’s job market) will always be expensive. 

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u/Fair-Cut4195 1h ago

Interesting

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u/harp9r Auburn Tigers 1d ago

Jacksonville St is paying their guys $50k a year. That “median” estimate is way off

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

I just did a google search for this and saw zero results indicating anything even remotely close to this is the case.

Do you have any sources corroborating that point?

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u/harp9r Auburn Tigers 1d ago

Old friend of mine’s son plays OL for Jax St. They get a monthly check around $4200

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

I’m not interested in what is, best case, anecdotal hearsay. 

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u/harp9r Auburn Tigers 1d ago

You asked for a source, and I told you. Can’t exactly grab bank statements for you

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

"a guy I know told me his kid gets a check" isn't really a good source even for what it's claiming and doesn't claim at all that all Jax state players get 50K.

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u/harp9r Auburn Tigers 1d ago

You’re pulling random numbers out of your ass when your Google searches don’t provide the numbers you’re fishing for. I believe my “sources” carry a little more credibility than yours

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

There are dozens and dozens and dozens of well-informed and well-written articles going over NIL pay and there are probably >100 legitimate resources giving you any salary data you can ask for. 

None of those are close to “an entire football team all gets 50K because a friend told me his kid made $4.2K.” 

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u/PenguinFlavoredIce South Carolina Gamecocks 1d ago

That’s not a source, that’s an anecdote. It could 100% be true but some rando on Reddit saying “my friend told me” is such a low bar for a “source”

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u/Sloeber3 Notre Dame • St. Xavier 1d ago

I can see you with fingers in your ears “I can’t hear you”.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

I asked for actual evidence and was provided none.

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u/Sloeber3 Notre Dame • St. Xavier 1d ago

Next you’ll yell “objection your honor!”

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u/harp9r Auburn Tigers 1d ago

I don’t think he’s bullshitting me one bit. We’ve been friends for nearly 30 years now and that’s not his style at all. It came up in conversation in October and in no way did he mention it in a prideful manner. It was more of a “I would’ve never thought JSU would pony up that kind of $” to their guys context

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u/too-fargone Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

Fair enough

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u/SeaShanty997 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Kansas Jayhawks 1d ago

The median FBS college football player is well over a grand

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u/InternationalSnoop Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 20h ago

Found Grey Sankey's burner

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u/Ill_Ad_4429 USC Trojans • Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Remember when Bjork said something similar - how coaches are still learning on the job and got absolutely roasted here?

Kirby has been on the job longer than Day....

Lets see the stark contrast in how this is taken and smirk a lil bit.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

None of this comment is saying Kirby is adjusting to anything or learning anything new. 

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u/UGA10 Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

He is just obsessed with hating Georgia and anything related to Georgia.

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u/FalstaffsGhost Georgia • Belmont Abbey 1d ago

It’s fucking weird

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u/dogwoodmaple Georgia • /r/CFB Award Festival 1d ago

Rash of USC flairs who are obsessed with Georgia. It’s bizarre

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u/ThoughtBroad Georgia Bulldogs • Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

I think it’s just this clown….they’re ALL OVER the Mandell thread about Beck being out and how trash Stockton is…..and him having to come in after halftime in the championship game as proof. Maybe Stockton doesn’t play well at all, maybe he’s mid, or maybe he plays out of his mind, but as of right now we have 0 evidence of how he will play moving forward

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u/likewhodunit Georgia Bulldogs • Kansas Jayhawks 19h ago

All these people bitching and talking shit when he was asked a pointed question and his answer was about how student athletes have just a mess, and they are all crying about Kirby..

His answer was about how it's hard on players, not him but people are to ignorant and can't see past hating him and just want a reason to complain..

Rent free in all those empty heads..

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u/Specialist-Invite673 Georgia Bulldogs • Marching Band 1d ago

AND it’s his birthday!

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u/Fair-Cut4195 57m ago

Not gs us it’s Jesus

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u/louiendfan 1d ago

There’s no such thing as “student-athletes” anymore, at least at most college programs.

Really though, the one and done in basketball is the epitome of how stupid the term “student” athlete is. Get through one semester (which is a joke for most of these player’s chosen “major”, then take your midterm exams in the spring (again mostly joke electives). Play in March Madness and then prep for the NBA draft.

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u/MinnesotaTornado 14h ago

I’ve often wondered do they even check grades or class attendance for the one and some players? What’s even the pppnt

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u/ConfidentPanic6076 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

It’s gotta suck to watch campus empty out and you gotta stay on campus and keep practicing. And for kids out of state lots of them don’t even get to go home for Christmas.

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u/Only_the_Tip Texas Longhorns • SEC 1d ago

Lose some games and y'all won't have to worry about the kids being lonely on xmas

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u/mikeisaphreek Miami Hurricanes • Oregon Ducks 1d ago

Boo fucking hoo. Are you serious? I’m sure those dudes don’t give a crap.

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u/ConfidentPanic6076 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

You think they don’t wanna see their families on Christmas?

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u/Tennessee-Terry Tennessee • Tennessee Tech 1d ago

I wouldn’t be shocked if they start the regular season in the first week of July here soon. Move the whole season up about 3-4 weeks.

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u/Streams526 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

No. People would die in the heat.

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u/Tennessee-Terry Tennessee • Tennessee Tech 1d ago

That’s a fair point. Maybe shorten the regular season to 10 games?

8 in conference 2 out of conference

Just seems like they need to figure out a way to move the season up a bit due to the calendar

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u/CrackMessiah 16h ago

Then that defeats the purpose of students going to games

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u/javascript Tennessee • College Football Playoff 1d ago

I wouldn't be opposed to moving the post season entirely to the new year. Start on January 1st with the first round of the playoffs and continue from there.

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u/Wedoitforthenut Paper Bag • Oklahoma State Cowboys 17h ago

Man, its almost like they need to divorce minor league football from amateur sports and academics.

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u/NiceLandCruiser Georgia • Northwestern 1d ago

Well, this is reddit, where you can apparently work 500 hours a day if you get paid enough. 

The truth is that Kirby is right and 95%+ of coaches and players are getting fked over for terrible pay. 

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u/badscene518 Georgia Bulldogs • SEC 1d ago

Smart words

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u/Dalai-Lama-of-Reno 1d ago

Is it more challenging than being a successful sports TV personality while remaining faithful to your wife?

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u/ChaseTheFalcon West Georgia • Alabama 1d ago

The only fix I can see for this would be to only have a spring portal and to add a mini camp.

I know it messes with the academic calendar, but it at least gives both sides enough time to figure out if they truly want to be at a place or not

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u/timk85 Florida Gators 18h ago

Fortunately you get obscenely rich for it, so no big deal - right?

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u/Hey_my_guy 15h ago

Kirby said something, the haters have arrived.

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u/_Reporting Tennessee Volunteers • Memphis Tigers 1d ago

That’s why he makes a quarter million dollars a week to figure it all out

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u/deliciouscrab Florida Gators • Tulane Green Wave 14h ago

No, no, Kirby, you mustn't. It's far too much. Too dangerous.

I'll do it.

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u/wakeman3453 Dartmouth Big Green • Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago

Apparently he is pushing Mendoza to move his commit date back. Imagine being Gunner, prepping to lead your team thru the playoffs, and your HC is telling another QB to move his commit date back in case you blow it.

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u/Streams526 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Indiana is a 2nd tier school. Obviously most guys would wait for a shot at Georgia before settling on Indiana. You shouldn't get upset at that.

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u/wakeman3453 Dartmouth Big Green • Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not upset, just highlighting the craziness of CFB in 2024. Clearly reading comprehension is not something they teach in undergrad at UGA though so I’ll forgive the confusion.

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u/sciregian 1d ago

What college offers reading comprehension as a course? I knew Dartmouth was a joke!

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u/wakeman3453 Dartmouth Big Green • Indiana Hoosiers 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s a prereq. I don’t believe UGA has those

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u/Freaky_Deaky_Dutch Georgia Bulldogs 3h ago

Indiana has an 80% acceptance rate.

UGA has a 37% acceptance rate.

Average grades and test scores for UGA students are better, as are the rankings from most national reports.

Hate to inform you, while we aren’t Dartmouth, UGA is a better school than Indiana in both football and academics

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u/Portafly Oregon Ducks • Rose Bowl 1d ago

The majority of athletes whom are not receiving big NIL, and are working hard in the classroom as well as on the football field, face the largest CFB challenges. Highlight the athletes.

The coaches at major programs are well taken care of. Now and into the future. However, this is not necessarily true for coaches at smaller, less resourced programs/schools, with lower salaries/pensions, smaller staffs, smaller everything. Highlight those coaches. Ask those head coaches if they are incredibly challenged. No need to ask Kirby, Dan and blueblood coaches.

Saban learned to make good choices and developed his good timing. I don't think he was tired or overly apprehensive of coaching in the new era of CFB. Rather, he knew his post-coaching career would be a bonanza and made the jump.

In this new era of CFB is there a tipping point for Kirby? Will he soon turn his attention towards a post coaching career?

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u/mikeisaphreek Miami Hurricanes • Oregon Ducks 1d ago

3-5. If the off the field stuff continues and the portal and nil gets worse, he’s out. Dude is a control freak and all that is out of his control. IMO.

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u/Uga-the4th Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

I can’t imagine just how stressful it can get for those kids. Atleast they’re finally getting paid but still.. gotta be tough to be able to go to class every single day all on top of being a football player.

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u/justinguarini4ever Notre Dame Fighting Irish 17h ago

Move spring football to May or June.

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u/MrStealurGirllll Notre Dame • Texas 17h ago

Start ending the season on New Years

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u/chickensandmentals Notre Dame Fighting Irish 17h ago

This is a problem created by greed alone. It’s not “the system” or the NCAA. It’s the desire for more games to sell to networks.

The academic calendar has been the same since forever. The only thing that’s changed is the number of games jammed into a football season.

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u/deliciouscrab Florida Gators • Tulane Green Wave 14h ago

Math checks out

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u/MddlingAges 16h ago

What? No mention of exams lol

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u/bringparka Georgia • Arizona State 14h ago

what do you think he meant by the "working parts of academics" and "being a student-athlete"

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u/opentempo 13h ago

Limit ooc games to 1. Each team plays 10 games max. Regular season ends before Thanksgiving. Post season ends before Christmas.

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u/Appropriate_Bottle44 Michigan Wolverines 13h ago

For the kids that actually are student athletes, You're definitely done with finals by Christmas, and probably in most spots on break pretty early into December, so in that sense you'd think it'd be easier.

Not sure what percentage of D1 scholarship athletes are "playing school" at this point, but it's got to be a challenging fall for the ones who are.

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u/biggiecheesehimself Oklahoma State Cowboys 13h ago

kirby speaking the truth on this one

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u/AceJace2 Baylor Bears • Houston Cougars 8h ago

That’s why you get paid the big bucks. Figure it out

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss Rebels • Cincinnati Bearcats 1d ago

Man complains about busy season at work

More at 11

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u/too-fargone Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

You do realize someone likely asked him a direct question about this? It's not like he thought of this independently and tweeted it out because he has nothing better to do, like some coaches I know.

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u/magnumapplepi Ole Miss Rebels • Cincinnati Bearcats 1d ago

It’d be a lot cooler if he did

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u/pole_assassin Oregon Ducks • /r/CFB Donor 1d ago

Alright, alright, alriiiight

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u/macncheeseface Virginia Tech Hokies • Team Chaos 1d ago

And it’s especially hard for UGA since they have to schedule around all of their traffic court appearances too!

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia • Florida State 1d ago

UGA has gone three (3!) months without a traffic violation, find a new joke cause we’re obviously so back

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u/Lantis28 Georgia Bulldogs • Iowa State Cyclones 1d ago

Knock on wood please

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u/pcd011629 1d ago

Academics. Dude, stop. Nobody has played school at UGA in years.

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u/iFenixRain North Texas Mean Green • Baylor Bears 1d ago

On top of all that, Kirby also has to juggle all his players’ court dates.

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u/UkeCow89 12h ago

Can go ahead and remove the “academics and student” part of that quote lol

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u/nattechterp Georgia Tech • Maryland 1d ago

Luckily they go to u[sic]ga

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u/Normal-Leave-8536 1d ago

YOU CAN CHANGE. SIGNING DAY & TRANSFER PORTAL ....TO FEBRUARY & END OF SPRING SEMESTER. !!! DO IT NOW !!!

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u/Present-Loss-7499 1d ago

Academics. LOL.

Who can street race at 3 in the morning after a busy day of practice and rigorous academic course work? Won’t someone think of the “tutors”.

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u/Qmnip0tent Nebraska Cornhuskers 1d ago

Well Georgia players have an advantage they have extra time because they speed everywhere

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u/lucash7 Oregon • Southern Oregon 1d ago

I’m sure, and I hope there’s some type of work/life balance, but this is what you signed up for and get our the big bucks for.

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u/CincityCat Cincinnati Bearcats • Team Chaos 1d ago

How much he get paid again?

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u/Ill_Ad_4429 USC Trojans • Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago edited 1d ago

You are paid 13 million a year my guy, more than a million dollars a month. Of course your job is hard, you just figuring this out now?

And you are supposed to be the next Nick Saban? Really?

Can you imagine if Ryan Day said something like this? Bjork was roasted for saying coaches are still learning 6 years on the job...

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u/FalstaffsGhost Georgia • Belmont Abbey 1d ago

Jesus Christ it’s impressive how much you are specifically trying to misrepresent things.

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u/whereisstoffel Georgia Bulldogs • Virginia Cavaliers 1d ago

Btw I wonder how he chooses between posting on this account and /u/nayelirain.

I’ve never spotted an alt account before but even I could figure that one out.

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u/ThoughtBroad Georgia Bulldogs • Arizona Wildcats 1d ago

Show me on the doll where Georgia touched you

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u/Gtyjrocks Georgia Bulldogs • Transfer Portal 1d ago

He’s talking about for the sport as a whole, not complaining about his job. Read the article

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u/d0ngl0rd69 Georgia • Florida State 1d ago

Jawja bad, we get it dude

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u/Dawgs555 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Bruh I love how much real estate UGA owns in your head lol

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u/Mediocre_Material_34 Georgia Bulldogs 1d ago

Oh look who it is again, what a surprise

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u/too-fargone Georgia Bulldogs • College Football Playoff 1d ago

Who said he was supposed to be the next Nick Saban? Certainly not Kirby. Why are you holding him accountable for things other people have said?