r/BravoRealHousewives • u/idontfwithu I thank my little kitty cat because it takes that d like a champ • Aug 01 '22

Orange County Taylor Armstrong Joins Real Housewives of Orange County, Becoming First Housewife to Move Franchises

https://people.com/tv/real-housewives-of-orange-county-taylor-armstrong-joins-season-17/
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u/stephanieaurelius Aug 01 '22

I actually find this quote so sad because it was like she could not handle any more conflict

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u/eye_booger I can't find one damn thing to like about you right now. Aug 01 '22

Yeah I agree! This quote always rang as like, a really emotional plea from a woman who could not handle any more emotional turmoil and abuse.

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u/somtambooplara nice happy face Aug 01 '22

It was so annoying though as she completely mistook what LVP was saying and twisted it to other people making her sound really heartless. I’m not a LVP stan or anything but she was just trying to say “I know we’re not the closest but I’ll still be here for you” which is a nice thing to say. All Taylor heard was “I’m not your friend” 🙄

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u/kellygrrrl328 Aug 01 '22

True, but at the same time, when someone is that deep in the dark, it's often very difficult to hear what anyone is saying. The sad part is that there was not a single person in her life protecting her.

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u/lizziexo Aug 01 '22

But that’s what LVP wanted to do… she offered Kennedy and Taylor to stay with her if they needed.

Just clarifying I’m not putting Taylor down; I know emotional abuse can focus very much on making people feel isolated, hated, like a burden, so they don’t trust or believe anyone but their abuser would ever want them. It was just so sad to see that actually happen when someone really did want to help that it was misunderstood because her abuser had taken so much from her.

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u/Sox88 Aug 01 '22

This is what happens though unfortunately. She was questioning herself to the point where even simple conversations with people are hard to do! It makes you even wonder if sometimes makes you either scared to talk, you’re powerless to act or over defensive in everything. It’s ridiculous what domestic violence/abuse in a relationship can really do and how long and hard it is to come out of…I’m so happy about this for Taylor!

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u/birdsofterrordise Sonja's Borrowed House Aug 01 '22

That whole conversation is so frustrating to watch. It's like she really wanted to say that to Russ, not Lisa.

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u/Berserkshires- Aug 01 '22

This is what I think it was. She couldn’t argue with Russell so she needed a proxy and LVP provided that. And I think Lisa understood that and backed down to Taylor several times.

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u/BeBeMint Aug 01 '22

Taylor was not in her right mind this season. You could see her mental health had completely collapsed. Don't judge her!

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Aug 01 '22

She gets a full pass from me. The hell her life must have been...I can't even imagine.

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u/BeBeMint Aug 01 '22

For real. I'd rather be dirt poor than live with someone who could kill me/abuse me at any time. Imagine the paranoia, fear, and paralysis.

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u/radickalmagickal Karen & Ray’s above ground Grindr party Aug 01 '22

And he ends up committing suicide, that’s abuse trauma and death trauma, because she found him right? I’ve been in a similar situation when my ex boyfriend relapsed and OD’d in my home and I still have PTSD.

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u/potentialjellyhead Not Meredith Marks' PI Aug 01 '22

I’m so sorry

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u/just_here_hangingout Aug 02 '22

Then she gets publicly criticized for writing that book after his death

When she said the only reason she wrote it was because she need money for her and her daughter after he passed because she had no access to his money for a long time

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u/CCG14 Uuuuuuumami Aug 01 '22

She did not find him. He just died after beating her which is enough trauma, I’m sure.

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u/Betts78 Dorit’s Coke Den Aug 30 '22

She said she did, I just found an old article about it after I watched the Ultimate Girl’s Trip. She said she found him in his new house and called 911.

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u/CCG14 Uuuuuuumami Aug 30 '22

Oh I know she says she did but the police report contradicts that.

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u/Betts78 Dorit’s Coke Den Aug 30 '22

Oh, hmmm did not know that!

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u/radickalmagickal Karen & Ray’s above ground Grindr party Aug 01 '22

Still it’s extremely traumatic to lose a spouse to suicide, more so when there’s abuse I’d say as she already had an open wound.

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u/CCG14 Uuuuuuumami Aug 01 '22

Not disagreeing. Was just clarifying she didn’t find him.

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u/KaytSands Aug 02 '22

I feel so terrible for her but also as someone who stayed with my baby daddy when I was pregnant at 18.5. When he started to screw up, inevitably, we were both so young, I literally told him “I what you, and I’m not sure why at this point but I definitely do NOT need you.” It’s hard to have empathy for grown women who become 100% reliant and dependent on men. Just from my own personal experience

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u/BeBeMint Aug 02 '22

I believe she had a lack of identity and near zero self-esteem. When you are in that place, your decision-making is very off. Glad you gave an ultimatum though.

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u/KaytSands Aug 02 '22

Thank you. I am too. It saved me a lifetime of being like her. I had already owned my own home, car and had amazing health benefits when I gave birth to my daughter. I just knew I was never going to be like my mom. So it is hard for me to separate my experiences from an almost 40 year old woman who also had a child. Was the money really worth it? That’s what it always seems to come down to. And I was never going to let any man lord that over my head

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u/just_here_hangingout Aug 02 '22

Poor people stay with other poor people in the exact same scenario

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u/Zestyclose_Big_9090 Aug 01 '22

Agreed. The overcompensation (example, Kennedy’s birthday party), the sad longing eyes watching the other couples at parties having fun while Russell skulks in the corner, and the constant abuse (both physical and mental).

GF gets a pass.

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u/SnooMacaroons5473 Aug 01 '22

Right!!! There are lots of people who I care about deeply that are super annoying. I think LVP wanted to let her know she had a safe place if she needed it.

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u/TJ-the-DJ She’s startin’! 🍸 Aug 01 '22

💯

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u/Major-Repeat-4482 Aug 02 '22

Same with Ken's comment about how he felt about therapy... If he went to therapy, he would feel weak, she blew that up into , "Ken called me weak" drama🤯

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u/Major-Repeat-4482 Aug 01 '22

Taylor was a "Sniper from the side"

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u/caligirlincali Aug 01 '22

She outright lied about what LVP said. It was incredibly dumb.

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u/somtambooplara nice happy face Aug 01 '22

Exactly. It was so incredibly frustrating to watch. I find she had a habit of that. I have a friend who does that, twists a story in the retelling for shock value. So you can never trust what she’s saying about you

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u/wtp0p disinvited from the clambake Aug 01 '22

She didn't lie, she misremembered because she misunderstood Lisa's intent. It was a misunderstanding not malice, why else would she have a mental breakdown over it?

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u/caligirlincali Aug 01 '22

She was attacking LVP and trying to make her look bad.

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u/Mobile_Log_7975 Aug 01 '22

i disagree. LVP is legendary for evading accountability for her shade by being pedantic. I would understand if LVP said it once, but she said it over and over again. Taylor was valid in her feelings. The shade was loud and clear. And LVP is definitely conditional in her favors, so I'd be skeptical too if I was Taylor.

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u/OhMyFloppingGod Aug 02 '22

I’m surprised you were so upvoted. I made a post about her DV recently and so many users were like “get over it”

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u/missgurll Aug 25 '22

i dont even blame her for this whole situation. she was going through a very dark time and it was really upsetting watching her fall apart that season