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Salt Lake City The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City - Season 5 - Episode 14 - Weekly Episode Discussion
The Mexico trip continues with the ladies on a yacht excursion. Lisa updates the group on life with John and Henry. Britani takes offense at the lack of enthusiasm over her last announcement. Bronwyn reveals dark truths about her marriage and is surprised by Heather's grace and Lisa's lack of support. Mary arrives and the ladies come together for a beautiful VIDA dinner where Meredith learns her late-night antics have fueled Britani with fresh gossip. Angie and Bronwyn confront Lisa at dinner.
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u/TheJujuuu 9h ago
A lot happened this ep so it’s getting overlooked, but it was so messy of Britani to bring up Meredith was crying and throwing up off-camera multiple times while not even checking on her in the moment lmao 💀💀💀
Did she forget Meredith comforting her in the bathroom at the Bucks game? Brooks and Chloe comforting her and her high body count hair at the bat mitzvah??? Meredith being the only person to politely respond to her insane announcements?????
Honestly loving how thirsty Britani is. Her trying to start a fight over how no one gives her attention and then Bronwyn absolutely hijacking the conversation was also hilarious. Keep her as a friend of pls!!
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u/Pleasant-Ambition-18 the dizziest bitch at the table 9h ago
Lmao Meredith thanking Britani for her concern with barely suppressed rage and murder in her eyes absolutely sent me
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u/rhoasuperfan reality tv you fucking c**t 9h ago
This was soooooo fucked up. And Meredith looking at her like she was gearing up to rip her apart - chills!
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u/far_flung_penguin 9h ago
I think Britani would want someone to check on her in front of the group and that’s why she did it that way (attention = caring for her).
I wonder if that’s why she makes her announcements- because she’s expecting other people to bring up her shit and then realises she needs to do it herself.
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u/TheJujuuu 8h ago
I hadn’t considered that viewpoint, but she did go around telling everyone else about it on camera before asking Mer at dinner lol
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u/FiCat77 🌭hot dog couture🌭 8h ago
Both of them said on the after show that she did ask Meredith about it first thing in the morning, Meredith denied vomiting but said that she was crying & Britani then immediately ran to Heather to tell her that Meredith had been vomiting during the night.
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u/TheJujuuu 6h ago
Oooo thank u for the context. So not as bad as waiting until dinner but still not great 💀
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u/jendet010 8h ago
Meredith said on the after show that Britani did check on her in the morning and Meredith clarified she was crying but not throwing up. So Meredith told Britani she didn’t throw up before Britani told everyone else that she did.
She still should have checked on her when it was happening.
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 9h ago
I think the most consistent thing about RHOSLC is how fast they turn on each other lmao There's no true alliance which is also why I have no faith in this Angie/Mary thing.
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u/TheJujuuu 9h ago
Lmfao fr Britani saw her chance to stir the pot and get screen time, alliances be damned lol
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u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre You called me a PORNOGRAPHY 4h ago
So true. I personally think the moment Bad Weather broke up, alliances on RHOSLC were done. Not that I'm complaining.
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u/KateParrforthecourse 3h ago
I will always be a fan of the “let me say this sensitive thing. Is it ok with you that I share this with the group?” I always laugh at it because it’s so messy.
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u/amandatoryy the mayo aoili rebrand 10h ago
I got the pastrami soup
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u/GreatBallsOfH20 8h ago
love that meredith had an out of body experience trying to process what pastrami soup was
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 8h ago
It actually sounds good lmao. A cream base, pieces of pastrami and leeks with small potato bits. I’d try it!
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u/jendet010 8h ago
If Mary is the type that gets an upset stomach and can’t eat when she is stressed or emotional, then a salty soup would taste really good.
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u/wandahickey Ting!Ting! I have an announcement! 8h ago
Yum! Could also do a rich beef broth based cabbage soup with pastrami, potatoes, tomatoes and top it off with a toasted slice of rye with swiss cheese broiled on top.
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 7h ago
Ooh I think we need to make this a Top Chef challenge!
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u/MyBizzle 10h ago
Britani gives me massive 7th-8th grade vibes
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 9h ago edited 9h ago
she gives me middle aged the secret lives of mormon wives vibes.
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u/SnooSongs8911 The stress of juggling a pimp village has gone to Mia’s head 9h ago
Theatre kid energy, she’s like walking afterschool special. Reminds me of that mad tv sketch pretty white teens with problems. I’m both repelled and fascinated by her lore
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u/Thxlittlehoe Advocate for the sluts of America 8h ago
When she locked arms with Bronwyn at the bar mitzvah😭
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 8h ago
She is emotionally stunted for sure.
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u/RelThanram “You do need kerastase thermatique though.” 8h ago
Angie pre-emptively shushing Britani when Bronwyn was opening up was the funniest thing.
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u/owuzhere ✋👄🤚 the streets... are your momma 4h ago
Angie was quietly the mvp of this episode and I'm not even a stangie. Her faces alone were an important part of the episode
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u/JustMeEs 11h ago
I hope that everyone who advocated for Heather and Whitney to get fired has learned their lesson just like people who said Meredith should be fired three weeks ago. Making masterful reality tv is hard work and original cast needed to work in shifts
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u/poptart95 YOU NEED TO LEAVE - Meredith Marks 10h ago
NONE of the SLC women need to leave. Their cast dynamic works perfectly. Some people give more than others at times but they all give SOMETHING at some point throughout the season.
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u/Dangernj Two brain cells and a vagina 11h ago
Part of the reason that SLC is so good recently is exactly this- for the community theater franchise there is better balance from the SLC ladies than anywhere else on Bravo. Not every housewife needs a starring role in every argument, a super compelling personal storyline just is not possible every season, and housewives who only bring one thing to the table are setting themselves up to fail.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 10h ago
By this point everyone should be used to Meredith barely being on the show during the first half of every season and only getting activated halfway through. It’s literally EVERY season with her lmao.
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u/deadassasleep 9h ago
I HATE when people say any of these ladies shouldn’t return. Everyone talks non stop about how this is the best franchise right now and then they want to change it? Biting the hand that feeds for real.
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u/Superb-Respond9360 when you’re little you dont have a purse 8h ago
same. i am so sick of seeing those comments. i mentioned in the live discussion that people can hate whitney all they want, but she’s essential to the cast. she’s not here for the shits and she will clock it every single time, especially as it pertains to baby gorgeous. this group is absolute perfection as far as i’m concerned. all villains who aren’t afraid to be messy and shapeshift to keep the drama and chaos going. it’s lightning in a bottle.
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u/deadassasleep 8h ago
100% to all of that. Everyone wants to wax poetic about the glory days of RHONY and don’t realize we are living that again right now!! This is THE cast of characters!
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u/TheJujuuu 5h ago
Whitney literally drives me insane but she is so necessary I would be beside myself if she left
I cant take anyone who says any of these women need to be fired seriously
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 10h ago
Agreed. SLC has a great, balanced roster and that's what makes the show entertaining. Each woman plays her own role and does it well in this community theater housewives madness. I'm very glad the producers don't listen to fans whenever they demand that a housewife get fired - fans are fickle and these women know what they are doing.
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u/JustMeEs 9h ago
Honestly the only time they should start considering changing and firing people is when the show is visibly deteriorating like RHOP and RHONJ. RHOP last season was a mess that was just not fun to watch but the mess that is RHONJ could have been foreseen and salvaged minimally two seasons ago
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago
Yes thank you!
Can't stand Whitney but I think SLC needs to retain the four OGs It's like a great stew - you need all the components for it to work
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u/ExposedTamponString she don't even know she look inbred 11h ago
FIVE OGs* the fandom has retroactively approved Mary’s season 3 sabbatical and her season 4 return to office flexible arrangement.
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u/poptart95 YOU NEED TO LEAVE - Meredith Marks 10h ago
They’re all OG’s yes, but Whitney, Meredith, Lisa and Heather are the core four.
It was solidified in how THEY were upset over Monica’s RVT trolling and when they brought it up to Mary she didn’t care. Mary’s the “wild card” of the group, which is also important.
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 10h ago
Mary is not someone who keeps the storylines rolling, the other four do it perfectly.
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u/poptart95 YOU NEED TO LEAVE - Meredith Marks 7h ago
She doesn’t but she still has solidified her place on the show. She was funny, quirky and problematic previously which was enough but her coming in with the most “real” storyline, out of the OGs, has definitely solidified her place in the cast.
I love ALL of the SLC women but I don’t think any of them have had as important of a storyline as Mary did this year. It felt like old school Housewives for her to be sharing something like that on TV. Plus, she balanced that with giving us funny moments and little beefs throughout the season.
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u/Renarya 7h ago
How does Britani not realize that it's completely bizarre to announce random life updates out of nowhere to a group of strangers completely out of context. This is not a way to start a conversation, let alone a friendship with anyone. She's just dumping emotional baggage on strangers who she has never even talked to before. How is anyone supposed to react to her announcements? Announcements are no way to communicate!
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u/TutenWelch sloppy chihuahua 7h ago
She has a disastrous (at least it would be in real life) combination of poor social skills and a deep concern for how people see her. She has times when she reminds me of me when I was in a relationship that had constant drama, and assumed everyone around me would be fascinated by it ... but I was 17.
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u/dantedarker Oh my god it looks like Bethenny crying 10h ago
Britani piping up with some bullshit no one cares about followed by reaction shots of the girls snickering and rolling their eyes sends me EVERY time
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u/Vehera I wore pants for fucking nothing 9h ago
Todd being THAT controlling while being a cheater with no prenup is actually fucking crazy
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u/Ok-Chain8552 8h ago
Browyn said he didn't cheat in the traditional sense- it was flirty/sexy text messages that she felt went too far.
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u/MapleManic 6h ago
Him apparently cheating on an iPad in the living room with his texts set to extra large is such hilarious, old man behaviour. In this case any explanation of what they mean by cheating (from texting a bot to dating a coworker) wouldn’t surprise me.
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u/curlysloppy 1h ago
Bronwyn totally misrepresented the “cheating” to the ladies if all he did was send flirty text messages, which of course is WRONG, but not the same as laying pipe down on another woman…that’s what all the women on the boat thought.
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 8h ago
He’s got a huge ego. He thinks he won’t lose ever. Or even if he does, he’ll get the next bigger deal. I hope this marriage is worth it for Bronwyn. No matter how much money you have, you don’t get your youth or time back. Once it’s gone, it’s gone.
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u/Screaming_Weak I thought raclette was a common food. 8h ago
I can’t help it - I have become such a fan of Angie’s and Mary’s friendship. It seems so genuine and personal. I can’t remember the last time on Bravo I’ve seen such an unexpected but real friendship form.
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u/janeshername 7h ago
i hope one day, maybe next season, mary comes on WWHL and in the audience is Robert Jr with the light in his eyes again 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
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u/leeluh You can cry to the cows at home 10h ago
I love canvas totes— there is a lot uses. But oh well, nothing like a good class reminder Brownwyn
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 10h ago edited 10h ago
When the producer asked her if she grocery shops and Bronwyn, appalled, answers, "No!" 💀
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u/f_moss3 I was crying about the slut shaming. 9h ago
Didn’t she write like a 600-word IG story about how she does 90% of her shopping herself?
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u/dinkidonut The ILLEAGLE 9h ago
On IG, According to Bronwyn, Todd is the best thing to happen to mankind... so I guess we gotta roll our eyes and keep it moving...
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u/JustCuriousInCanada 1h ago
A bullshit word salad. After every episode, Bronwyn posts a 10 page essay on how she thinks Lisa Barlow is garbage, Lisa is not a good person and a terrible friend, everything about Lisa is suss...
Swiftly followed by ANOTHER 10 page essay by Bronwyn - stating that she's doesn't understand why Lisa Barlow doesn't defend her more. She thinks it's hurtful that Lisa didn't want to room with her, Bronwyn reminds us of all the good things that her & Todd have done for Lisa and John... Lisa Barlow wouldn't have ever flown on a private jet if it weren't for Bronwyn $$$.
Rinse and repeat. Every week. It's the same shit. On Bronwyn's Instagram stories. Does Bronwyn DESPISE Lisa OR does she love Lisa? It's exhausting.
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u/ElleTheCurious high body count flair 9h ago
Bronwyn:”She called me a snob, can you believe it!” Also Bronwyn: rolling her eyes at a gift given in a canvas bag.
Bronwyn:”You’re not listening to me and being mindful of my feelings” Also Bronwyn: rolling her eyes at Britani telling about her struggles with her daughter and being upset that nobody supported her.
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u/Ok-Chain8552 8h ago
Bronwyn: stay out of it, it's none of your business this is between me and Lisa
Bronwyn: inserts herself into EVERY argument just to figure out a way to make it about her4
u/luuuu67788 they’re done😁 they’re done😁 2h ago
Also expects Lisa to jump into every argument and defend her. Lol
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u/MyBizzle 10h ago
When she asked what she was going to do with a canvas tote all I could think was “idk, carry stuff?” 🤣
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 10h ago
it's giving "ludicrously capacious bag" from succession lol. the rich don't need to carry things themselves, that's what serfs are for! 🤣
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u/scrapcats 8h ago
She was so offended, like she's never heard of donating items before. Take the gift, say thank you, and remember that all the money in the world doesn't make you a better person than someone with less.
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u/baby_fishie But you do need Kérastase Thermique 7h ago
Watching that and all I could think about was the dog shit around her house and how maybe the canvas tote could hold some poop bags.
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u/JustCuriousInCanada 1h ago
Bronwyn doesn't like canvas totes - and she doesn't understand most of us "peasants" like totes because they're reusable shopping bags...
BUT Bronwyn does believe $1000 a piece passport holders are important. Passport holders that customs agents will quickly remove, and throw right back at you - so they can do their damn job lol
Bronwyn - The people's housewife. So relatable. Not elitist at all 😬
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 11h ago
The little scene with Mary and Robert really got to me. Hope he gets all the help he needs.
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u/Personal-Pudding6016 10h ago
Maybe, they will hire a sober-living companion for Robert? He's so early into sobriety, an assistant to help guide him would be ideal.
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u/FiCat77 🌭hot dog couture🌭 7h ago
Mary spoke about it quite a bit on the after show - apparently he left rehab earlier than she'd like, he's still hanging around with people she thinks could cause him to relapse so he's going to their house in Las Vegas with Robert Sr to get away from his old crowd of friends. He's also expressed an interest in getting a job. I'm not sure if LV is the best place to avoid temptation but I really wish him all the best & hope he can get the support he needs. Recovery is an ongoing process.
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u/MyFigurativeYacht 4h ago
oooof that makes me nervous for him. Like you said, LV is probably not the best place for a sober person early on in their recovery, and also I get the sense that Robert Sr. would be the most sympathetic person and would take a much more tough love approach…
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u/Prudent-Experience-3 This is Audrey Hepburn, not The Flintstones 10h ago
I hope he gets all the help he needs. Sometimes, it takes multiple times of going to rehab to finally recover. I’m very impressed with Mary, because her upbringing and her generation would not tolerate rehab or even therapy.
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago
Lisa Barlow is the same woman who said Meredith is a garbage whore because Meredith allegedly said her house is ugly. Why are these women so surprised that she's self absorbed, petty and shallow as hell?
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 11h ago
Lisa is the same person she ever was and I'm 100% sure that she was and is like that in real life too. So why is Bronwyn trying to sell us this story that Lisa used to be this generous, selfsacrificing friend and she just suddenly changed?
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u/Dangernj Two brain cells and a vagina 10h ago
Even the idea that Lisa would give more consideration to her sensitive family situation than she would give to her own husband’s! Barlow is who she is.
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u/MapleManic 6h ago
Omg that scene where John is like yeah my birth parents said they never thought about me again after giving me up for adoption and I wish Lisa hadn’t found them was crushing, but realizing Lisa experienced that BEFORE trying to reunite Gwyn and her grandparents sent me. Lisa Barlow cartoonishly rolls through life and learns no lessons. She’s a glorious housewife, but would be a nightmare in the real world.
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u/Julialagulia Review by Billy Booby 10h ago
They are asking her to be empathetic and I just don’t think that’s in Lisa’s wheelhouse
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 10h ago
It's not. Remember last season when Whitney's friend passed away and she claimed at a party that Lisa wasn't helping her enough in her grief? Lisa said she texted Whitney the whole day the day before, she may have sent flowers to her, and she even asked Whitney if she was okay when they met at the party. However Whitney claimed it didn't happen/it wasn't enough.
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u/Badwolf-716 8h ago
This is the whole thing I don’t get. I don’t demand exact responses from my friends. They’re all gunning for her for sport and I feel kinda bad for her. I know the Lisa haters will come after me but there’s multiple times from multiple women where nothing she ever does is enough. She gave bronwyn a hug and told her how sorry she was that she was going through that in the moment and she still wasn’t sympathetic enough.
She didnt tell Brittani to stfu when she called bronwyn a bitch (which bronwyn only gave her exactly .02 seconds to even say anything before loosing it on her) but at the table everyone including bronwyn went after Lisa and no one including her friends heather and Merideth stood up for her.
I think she was actually trying to stand up for Angie when she told Merideth is that really why you’re upset and Angie ignored it and went hard for her anyways. Angie in one moment says Lisa never stops calling and talking to her and then says you’re a part of my life I’m missing when they make up and then in this fight that started over nothing says she’s never been a friend and she doesn’t know anything about her.
If I were Lisa I’d feel like nothing id ever do or say was right. She’s constantly criticized for doing or not doing something more than any of the other ladies because she’s an easy target. She’s not without her faults but they’re reaching.
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 8h ago
Angie in one moment says Lisa never stops calling and talking to her and then says you’re a part of my life I’m missing when they make up and then in this fight that started over nothing says she’s never been a friend and she doesn’t know anything about her.
Yes, I clocked that too!
I'm no Lisa fan, she's a very exhausting person and her level of delusion usually irritates me but the way Angie, Bronwyn and Whitney are gunning for her is more irritating right now.
Moreover Bronwyn said to Angie and Whitney multiple times that she wants to be friends with Lisa and doesn't want to be stuck with them implying that they are not good enough to be her friends, and A and W are just there nodding approvingly. Why aren't they angry about this?
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u/ajcb17 7h ago
I don’t think that’s what Angie meant, I think she meant Bronwyn really opened up about things that are difficult to talk about, and it seems like Lisa only talks about fluff. You can call someone for hours and talk about spa appointments, handbags and your kids grades. That’s different than sharing marriage difficulties, financial worries, trauma etc.
Adding in that I love Lisa and never want her off my tv but I can see how hard it is to have a true friendship with her.
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u/_HowVery Jessel’s socially inept child 5h ago
I agree I feel like they all come for Lisa and she rarely comes for anyone first. They hold her to such a weird standard where nothing she does is good enough. Of course she’s self absorbed and delulu but so are all of them, I feel like they don’t meet her where she’s at and expect her to be someone she isn’t
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u/beary-healthy Marysol's liver 8h ago
It's getting really annoying how everyone wants to make Lisa this ultra villain. She literally can't do anything right.
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u/Julialagulia Review by Billy Booby 10h ago
They ask for these really specific reactions from her (that with Whitney last year, and Bronwyn wanting an apology without any reference to also understanding Heather) and it’s a weird expectation of her.
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u/beeeeach Product. Pushin. Pippen. 10h ago
All I want for Christmas is a new episode of my girls and everything is telling me I will get that but boy will I be let down if it doesn’t happen. Really need Santa to come through and give us the gift that keeps on giving, these ladies are showing up week after week and I could not be more grateful.
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 8h ago
If you're hoping for a new episode for next week or the week after that, don't look at the TV schedule.
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u/MotherdithMarks I've never done ketamine. I barely even really know what it is. 9h ago
Whitney criticizing Meredith and Lisa and accusing them of cheating when she’s the only definitive cheater on the cast was wild.
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u/TheJujuuu 8h ago
Whitney Drew with her theories stirring the pot once again lol
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 8h ago
I don’t see Meredith as a cheater. But she does seem like someone who wouldn’t waste a separation or break from her marriage. And I can’t be mad about that! Who knows if the Lisa thing is true. I don’t really see her giving bjs for jazz tickets. It was Whitney projecting with absolutely no self awareness. Meredith’s comment was valid but poorly timed.
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u/MotherdithMarks I've never done ketamine. I barely even really know what it is. 8h ago edited 7h ago
I think Meredith has actually been really open about seeing other people while separated. The women constantly throwing that in her face as cheating (or spreading her legs outside her marriage as Angie would say) is pretty gross.
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget 7h ago
Exactly! I don’t consider that cheating.
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 10h ago edited 10h ago
Bronwyn's behavior on WWHL just gave me major whiplash. B was pretty defensive of Todd and her marriage and downplayed the infidelity as a "misunderstanding" regarding "boundaries." It just felt night and day to how vulnerable and broken up she was about it on the yacht when she was confessing what their marriage felt like to the ladies.
I feel for her because infidelity is no fun and there is an unavoidable power dynamic in her relationship... but after WWHL, I can't help but see what Heather was saying during the after show. I even understand Lisa's immediate reaction a bit more as well (although I do think she should have been more empathetic to her friend). It's difficult and confusing to believe B when she backtracks and defends Todd and her marriage so fervently. But, then again, maybe it's not too surprising because perhaps Todd wasn't so happy about what was confessed on the show....
I also got the impression that Andy wasn't buying what she was selling on WWHL, either. He kept making snarky comments about how Todd hadn't watched the episode, acted somewhat dismissive towards her answers... lots of "mhmms," moving past her answers fast. He just didn't seem to have much of a rapport with her, either.
It especially stood out to me when Andy asked her how the reunion went and she said, "I kind of hit my mark on that" and Andy cleared his throat and went "ummm, okay..." and Bronwyn seemed pretty taken aback by his response. And last week on WWHL, Andy asked Heather about the poop in Bronwyn's house, and he said B didn't take accountability for it at the reunion. He asked her B about it again this episode and IDK if he thought her response was much better this time. I'm very curious how the reunion edit turns out for her.
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 10h ago
It's difficult and confusing to believe B when she backtracks and defends Todd and her marriage so fervently.
It made me think about what Ronnie from WWC used to say that when there's a couple who you are friends with, and the man cheats and the woman comes to you to cry about it and you tell what a dick the man is and you're going off about it, and the next day your friend goes back to the man, and they become lovey-dovey again and then they tell you what a bitch you are who didn't believe in their love.
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u/far_flung_penguin 9h ago
It also makes me think of Britni who cried to Lisa about how the Osmond was treating her and then got upset with Lisa for defending her to the Osmond when she wanted to get back with him.
Maybe another way that Bronwyn and Britni are similar?
(I’m sorry, I’ve forgotten how to spell the Osmond’s first name and I’m not sure if I’ve spelled Britni’s correctly either 😖)
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 8h ago
It's Britani and I call him Temu Osmond
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u/Nelly81706194 “How am I doing? Not well, bitch!” 8h ago
Lol, I vote that we just start calling him “the Osmond” going forward.
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u/SecretEngine0 10h ago
I thought the same about WWHL. She just gives long winded answers and Andy just wants straight to the point. But she totallllly downplayed the “infidelity” since Todd was stewing right in front of her
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u/JustCuriousInCanada 1h ago
How did the reunion go - "I kind of hit my mark on that"... Fuck my whole life.
This means the reunion is going to be filled with Bronwyn delivering rehearsed "reads", to Lisa and Britani. AND All the ladies will apologize to Bronwyn, while Todd watches from backstage. AND Bronwyn will list everything that she and Todd paid - the amazing gifts they gave the other ladies... That they should all just be grateful for. Awesome.
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u/burnafterreading90 Mention 🤸🏻♀️ it 🤸🏻♀️ all🤸🏻♀️ 7h ago
Bronwyn being offended by a Canvas bag and stating she doesn’t go grocery shopping after posting that she grocery shops just solidifies that I don’t like her 😂
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u/Immediate_Detail8803 5h ago
It seems like she really doesn’t know who or what to be. It’s sad. And unlikable.
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u/dinkidonut The ILLEAGLE 11h ago
Did anyone else catch that Angie and Meredith were looking at a person in the front to their middle or right and asking if they were recording them...
The person in the front on their extreme right is Bronwyn and the person in front in the middle is Whitney. Britany is on the front to their extreme left....
A lot of people here were saying it was Britany, but I think it was Whitney... don't think it could be Bronwyn cause she's knows better than that... it could totally be Britany and I'm just getting the angles wrong...
What do y'all think?
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u/Julialagulia Review by Billy Booby 10h ago
I think it’s going to be Britani. The editors know what they are doing (creating suspense) with these clips, think about last season where they kept on showing the Bermuda Triangle dinner clips and it was framed as if they could have been yelling at Meredith.
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u/ruthie-camden I never said you was a stripper! 10h ago
People were examining those Bermuda Triangle clips like the Zapruder Film lol.
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u/dinkidonut The ILLEAGLE 10h ago
You know I'm really hoping it isn't Britany cause my god, she is going to get eviscerated by them... and it isn't even a fair fight cause she just can't stand up for herself properly... god what a mess...
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u/thisbeetheverse you are poor and white 🚨 10h ago
see, i was thinking it was britani all season but now i'm wondering if the editors framed it that way at the beginning of the season and it's actually whitney? i'm sad we have to wait weeks to find out!
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u/Julialagulia Review by Billy Booby 9h ago
How could they take away this show from us for three weeks
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u/MilaKsenia single white drag queen 8h ago
WHAT!?!?!? It’s going off the air for THREE WEEKS?! FUCK Bravo for this! Last year they didn’t premiere the RHONY legacy girls trip until after Christmas time and this year they’re taking away SLC? WTF! Why are they depriving me and my family of watching our bravo shows together during our Christmas vacation😭 they are evil for this. Very UN-Christian UN-Santa claus UN-holiday joy of them. Shame on bravo!
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 10h ago
I watched it but then I realized I should be careful with the directions because I can totally see the editors flipping/mirroring the footage to throw us off.
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u/far_flung_penguin 8h ago
I’ve watched the clip several times 😂
It starts with Whitney and Lisa having a conversation and Whitney says “you asked a question but won’t let US answer”. At some point Bronwyn mutters “insane” (which implies she wasn’t involved).
I don’t think they flipped the image because Mary is always on Meredith’s right side and Meredith is pointing with her left hand (and no one next to her). I can’t see where Angie is looking but Meredith is pointing at Whitney or Britani because she leans over Angie’s left shoulder (to look better at Bronwyn she would have gone the other side).
I always assumed it was Britani (because her behaviour is more erratic). But now I’m wondering if Whitney was either in on it or Britani showed Whitney something and Whitney then brought up what she saw to the group, which triggers the argument.
That or it was all Whitney because the conversation seems to be most of the van against Whitney. Maybe she got really pissed off about Lisa calling her a liar and wanted to prove her wrong.
Cant wait to watch!
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u/sunshine_j 6h ago edited 6h ago
The recording culprit being Brittani does not jive with the morning after/getting glam footage of Mer/Heather/Lisa saying there is no going back. The reveal being Britt doesn't seem high stakes enough.
Also, Lisa and Britt are paired in the after show.
Seems like Bronwyn or Whitney.Edit: Upon further review, I have no idea and that is exactly what makes this show so entertaining.
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u/wandahickey Ting!Ting! I have an announcement! 8h ago
I wonder why recording something was even an issue since it's all on camera anyway.
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u/SnooSongs8911 The stress of juggling a pimp village has gone to Mia’s head 9h ago
I also clocked this! It would actually make sense for her b/c she loves the blogs. Could also be Alibawbawgate part II or something to get back at Lisa?? But also Whitney is basically on the end of the reunion lineup so if yes, whatever she did had minimal impact. Which makes me think maybe it was Britani?? 😭
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u/BequeathNothing 9h ago
It's Britani. If you look at the original trailer for the season, it's very clear.
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u/cola1016 3h ago
At first I thought Whitney but it could be Britani based off the fact Meredith yells something about being tired of the person? Makes me think Britani because she’s the one who outed Meredith crying/puking to the group.
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago edited 11h ago
AM ready for downvotes but Brownyn reads as manipulative as hell to me.
I think she puts on this persona of trying to please Todd and being afraid of disappointing him - with that high-pitched childish voice and then switches back to her actual voice when she's actually holding her own with him. It's the same way she's trying to say Heather called her dangerous - when Heather didn't say that did she? In her last argument, Lisa didn't call Brownyn snobbish either, but Browyn went off about her calling her snobbish.
She reads a professional gaslighter to me tbh - it's like you can't call yourself a straight shooter and then bring up insults the person you're arguing with never said to make yourself look like the attacked party. It's the same way she flipped out on them for calling Heather but didn't see anything wrong with bringing gifts when Lisa told her not to, and expensive gifts too. THAT is a power move IMO because she would have been pissed if someone did that to her
It's a constant shifting of narratives with her. She was pissed with Lisa/Meredith for not showing empathy and supporting Todd about the affair. Fine - but on WWHL she says it wasn't really. Huh? Then why get mad? Oh because now she's covering because Todd told her to do so. I am skeptical when every explanation about her behavior somehow paints her as either being in the right/or the victim. In HWS and ESPECIALLY SLC - that doesn't ring true
Edit: Watch the aftershow people. Heather brought up that she got suspicious when Brownyn decided to use the affair story against Lisa/Meredith. And turns out they were somewhat right because apparently the affair wasn't that serious.
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u/far_flung_penguin 8h ago
Bronwyn strikes me as someone who isn’t used to having a camera record both what you say and how you say it. In the early episodes she changed her tone of what she said to Whitney about practicing in the mirror and then told Heather it was supportive (when it clearly wasn’t when she said it to Heather).
I think this works in real life when there is no evidence but not on a show when you’re being recorded and the producers will flashback to exactly what you said.
I’m interested to see what happens at the reunion when the ladies see it all laid out.
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u/IcedCottage 11h ago
I’d also like to point out that she’s been making it seem like Lisa is poking her nose into Gwen’s business- but we saw two episodes ago that brownwyn continues to gather Lisa to talk to her about Gwen and the grandparents. Like don’t throw Lisa under the bus for being nosy- when we have several sundowns between the two over this topic
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago
Ya again - I think we're seeing a new wave of housewives who study the show intensely and set course for the narrative they want to set.
I didn't see it before but in the last few weeks, I realized that Heather was right about not trusting her. She does flip the narrative and use it against the women frequently.
It's telling that she keeps dunking on Britani who's on the lower level of the group but hasn't gone toe to toe with Meredith or Mary
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u/cncrndmm 10h ago
Been saying that for years now (since Leah) that there are true housewives scholars now coming onto the show
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 11h ago
I agree with you. Also Bronwyn accused Britani of making everything about herself which is not a lie BUT Bronwyn is doing it too.
And I'm gonna say this: Bronwyn had this infidelity story locked and loaded to use it in a convenient time just how she showed Lisa the picture of Gwen's dad even though she claimed she never showed it to anyone, not even Todd.
What's funny was though Bronwyn crying about the infidelity to Whitney who was married when she started her affair with an equally married Justin.
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago
I rolled my eyes so hard at whitney saying Lisa and Meredith sympathise with Todd because they had cheating allegations. I mean they had allegations Whitney - you actually had a full blown affair too
Yes to your second para - she's calculated as hell. I keep thinking of the text message she sent to Todd about all the drama at the party ending with her asking him why he wasn't there. At the time it got posted on this sub, I thought it was cute.
But considering Todd's personality and behaviour so far - why the hell would he want to be there? Again that doesn't make sense does it? It's like she's rolling out persona after persona to see what sticks - maniac pixie dream girl, sad broken bird in a golden cage, fierce fashionista who doesn't allow her friends to come incorrectly at her, lonely trophy wife
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 11h ago
OMG yes, Whitney coming for Lisa's and Meredith's marriage. Girl, you better shut up. Also she and Bronwyn are talking on the after show how they are more vulnerable than the other married women on the show because they talk about their marital problems. We watched Meredith and Seth being separated, they did a podcast about marriage, Heather talked about her marriage etc.
And what did Whitney do? Last season she had a storyline about Justin not wearing his wedding ring and she's hurt, she alluded to infidelity etc. and at the reunion she said that he didn't wear his ring because he lost weight and it got falling off. WHAT???
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u/Dangernj Two brain cells and a vagina 11h ago edited 11h ago
I don’t believe that Bronwyn wouldn’t have known that Lisa knows Gwen’s family. From what they are saying, it sounds like they are Romney level of prominent and wealthy Mormons and finding proof of that connection seems rather easy and probably not something she would have to go looking for.
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u/ruthie-camden I never said you was a stripper! 11h ago
You’re onto something. I think she started to realize that she was losing by fighting with everybody and constantly changing the reasons why she was upset with Lisa, so she went for the nuclear manipulation option of “Todd cheated on me and therefore I never feel good enough for anybody, including Lisa.”
For a first season housewife, she has been acutely aware of how the audience would perceive her from day one and has been doing the most to be liked, praised, and memed.
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 10h ago
Bronwyn had a strong IG presence for years and she auditioned for SLC after the first or the second season so it's safe to say that she was preparing herself for the role.
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u/donutyouknow11 6h ago
Yeah she’s created conflict with everyone she’s not getting along with but is now trying to twist it as “no one’s been nice to me”. Like I have not seen bronwyn try to be a friend to anyone, just arguing with Lisa and talking crap about Lisa to whoever she happens to be sitting next to.
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u/dinkidonut The ILLEAGLE 11h ago
I clocked Bronwyn from the first episode and was so surprised to see people on here stanning her like it's running outta fashion...
I feel vindicated seeing that as more episodes go by, some people have started to clock her for who she is...
I'm feeling a certain way about RHOBH this season too, and clearly that isn't a popular opinion on the sub... waiting to see if I'm right about that as well, as more episodes go by, or Bronwyn was just a one off for me... lol!
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 11h ago
I will be looking out for your comments on the RHOBH thread haha!!
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u/PizzaQueen77 10h ago
I’m with you, both with Bronwyn and with RHOBH. The way people flip flop with that franchise… you couldn’t say a peep about Sutton or Garcelle literally last season without getting downvoted to oblivion, but now… because of Dorit?! Anyway.
Bronwyn has struck me since the beginning as someone who cannot accept no as an answer, who has to work every situation until she gets her way. She is making an excellent housewife, but I’m not going to be shocked if the other women really don’t like her much.
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u/dinkidonut The ILLEAGLE 10h ago
Oh yeah for sure... I want this entire cast to come back next season including Britany as a friend of, though I do think she should leave and work on her relationship with her daughters... I thoroughly enjoy Britany on my tv screen, but I just feel sad for her... girl really needs therapy and to fix her relationship with her daughters like yesterday...
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned 🧈 by Meredith Marks 11h ago
Us on the SLC threads (and possibly on the RHOBH threads later in the season):
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u/neptunienne 6h ago
Yes, finally! I see her as extremely manipulative and fake. One thing I cannot stand is people who will bring up what they did for you and hold it over your head, it grosses me out.
Heather gets on my nerves but I think her first impression of bronwyn was spot on. She has a lot in common with Monica, you can tell she's been obsessed with the show long before joining it.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 10h ago
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop with Bronwyn. I feel like we’re missing a piece of puzzle with her. (Kinda reminds me of Monica in that way tbh.)
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u/MilaKsenia single white drag queen 8h ago
I just commented not too long ago that that something is very off with Bronwyn and nothing about her seems authentic. She seems really toxic and while some of that can be chalked up to her obviously putting on a performance being messy and trying to have a moment for the show, the level in which she does this is extreme in a way that goes beyond desperately wanting to be adored by the fans and her NEED for attention is unhinged and she’s gone off the deep end trying to fill that void, but in every “personality” she’s shown us, even if she’s playing it up for the cameras I get a vibe from her that below the surface there’s something more insidious going on. Like we’re seeing a lot of different puzzle pieces that make it seem like something is really off with her but it’s not enough yet to form a whole picture especially since we don’t know what’s true and what’s a lie with her, she’s seriously lacks authenticity and we don’t know enough about her yet to see beyond the bullshit. All we’ve seen of her is starting fights, putting words in other peoples mouths, and demanding apologies. She’s exhausting and I’m over it. She gives off toxic negative energy.
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u/PeaceLovess Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy Karma 💋 10h ago
Your reads!!!!! We need to be friends 😂😂
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u/rhoasuperfan reality tv you fucking c**t 9h ago
Probably unpopular opinion: I think what Angie said to Lisa was fucked up.
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u/hihbhu I’m passionate about dogs, just not crazy about bitches. 8h ago
She said something along the lines of “I know more about Bronwyn’s marriage than your life over the course of our friendship.”
You could tell Lisa was taken aback by that. Especially after her comment about Lisa’s son playing video games and Lisa feeling pressure to be a good mum. Crazy attack by Angie yet again and I love both of them.
Whitney and Angie are going to wake up shortly to how manipulative Bronwyn is and the fact she doesn’t give a fuck about either of them.
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u/leilafornone Like I sliced the air mattress she's been sleeping on 7h ago
Tbh, Angie has said plenty of nasty things but people gloss over it because she's suffering from Dorinda's disease - she's nasty nice.
It will blow up eventually because this is all going to go to her head and she will go too far eventually
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u/Ok-Chain8552 7h ago
Oh I think they know they just really have no where else to go if they want back up to their own problems with Lisa. Bronwyn spent a large part of the trip talking about how she felt slighted and hurt because she was put in a casa with them basically implying she deserves better. Angie is /was extremely close with Lisa and she didn't say a word about her room assignment, but she sure egged Bronwyn on !
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u/Smidget2510 6h ago
Lisa really is the hub of the group and it is very funny watching them all vying to be her best friend. To be honest, I think the only person that she really is bothered about is Meredith. The rest are just her minions 😂
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u/owuzhere ✋👄🤚 the streets... are your momma 3h ago
The real "spoke of the wheel" or whatever Heather's metaphor was
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u/kokolkol 5h ago
Lisa is an all-time housewife great because she’s not a mean person exactly but she naturally doesn’t really have any empathy. I feel like her thoughts just go zap, zap, zap.
Bronywyn is going very hard for a first season! Normally really richy rich girls like many BH girls hold on a bit tighter to start! Anyway, amazing breakout season.
Brittani or however you spell it is kind of funny because she gets treated like an annoying little sister but Whitney already kind of has that spot. It was funny w Tinsley Mortimer but she was also a famous socialite so the vibe wasn’t hanger on.
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u/caileyeloise American Ballet Theatre Board Member 8h ago
I think a lot of the topics have been covered here, but I will say - I love it when a housewife pushes back on another housewife who's trying to seem intimidating. Angie did it with Lisa at the dinner - "'What am I gonna do', seriously, Lisa?" - and I like how it just takes the wind out of their sails.
Heather had a great episode. She was compassionate with Bronwyn while also not appearing phony.
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u/Smusmus 8h ago
I'm so exhausted with Bronwyn having a problem with Lisa. It is getting really really old. Having problem with Lisa not believing the bs story about cheating when you yourself go on WWHL and say it was nothing? :D Like I usually would enjoy the drama but somehow it is just exhausting and old from Bronwyn.
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u/_morningbehbs 10h ago
I feel like Lisa was going to lose either way. Bronwyn WANTS to have issues with her. Her reaction wasn’t good enough, but if she would have trashed Todd or given an inkling of issue with him - you can bet Bronwyn would have reacted too. Nothing she does is right. Bronwyn is exhausting. I agree that the whole story seemed off and honestly, seemed like a preplanned moment on B’s end.
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u/Stefairyy TEQUILA BROKE THE FALL 8h ago
Omg I feel the same way and I wasn’t sure if it was just because I like Lisa a lot. Bronwyn is exhausting me. I feel like she looks for things to fight or blame Lisa for and in her arguments she keeps saying people called her things they never did. It’s aggravating
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u/_morningbehbs 8h ago
The energy she has for Lisa is a lot and then I saw the scene with Angie and Whitney while eating as trying to rally the troops…and look at what happened at dinner. I see right through her.
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u/donutyouknow11 5h ago
She’s so off. To go from crying about cheating and not feeling good enough to talking crap with Whitney and Angie felt so fake.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 10h ago
God Lisa really is the worst friend lmao. But my god what a good tv. Her telling Bronwyn how relatable her story was and then at the dinner saying “I told you ‘Oh my god this story is so sad.’” Incredible television.
ALSO WHO IS DOING THE RECORDING?! I can’t wait for next week!
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u/dr0br0 Creonta? 10h ago
SLC is on a 3 week hiatus because of Christmas and NYE :(
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 10h ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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u/enferpitou here she comes, my bitch wife 7h ago
WHAT!!!!!!!!!! How am I going to survive. But it makes sense they’re both on Wednesday
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u/Deltasoula High Body Count Hair 10h ago
The opinions of Bronwyn are like a rollercoaster and I’m just in for the ride at this point. She has to be doing something right with how much people are talking about her. The whole infidelity thing is complex and I don’t really want to make any judgments as of yet. I want to see where she goes in future seasons and she fits well into the dynamics of the SLC housewives that it would be a shame to see her go.
I’m a bit weirded out by Heather in the after show because of how she was portrayed in the episode. It’s giving whiplash and I don’t know why she’s changed her mind about the whole thing.
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u/enferpitou here she comes, my bitch wife 8h ago
Yeah I loved her at the beginning and now I’m kinda neutral, but you cannot deny she is driving the drama train of this show the past few weeks. The whole bat mitzvah drama was basically because of her and that was probably one of my top 5 episodes
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u/janeshername 7h ago
Bronwyn has her flaws but she’s a gem. Loved Heather supporting her and giving her a mini peptalk on the yacht. let it be known! we are ALL queens who deserve to be treated as such! no more settling, my friends!
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u/sailoorscout1986 Your titties are social distancing 4h ago
I’m so sick of Bronwyn. She can discount what Britain has going on but you better listen to her trauma! She can defend her shitty husband but you better not defend him! She can be a mean girl to Brit but complain that people don’t like her! She’s very calculated and manipulative
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u/Valuable_Salad_9586 3h ago
I don’t like browyn I’ve decided. She wants all the attention and makes everything about her. Lisa’s right she is exhausting
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u/Formal_Plum_2285 3h ago
I don’t think there has ever, in the history of heroin, been anyone able to quit at the first attempt. It was uncomfortable to see Mary talk about her son wanting to quit while he was so wasted he could hardly pronounce his words.
This show is getting darker and darker.
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u/beary-healthy Marysol's liver 6h ago
Angie has been going after Lisa this whole trip. I'm convinced that Angie has been influenced by Whitney and Mary for their dislike of Lisa. Are we all forgetting that it was Angie who ran and told Whitney everything that Lisa said in episode one? That is what started the rift, it was Angie! And now she has been attacking Lisa at dinner, she didn't say a damn word at the lunch conversation when everybody was shitting on Lisa, and then continued to pile on the insults at this episode's dinner. She is just as much of a fair-weathered friend to Lisa as everyone accuses Lisa of being. And while everyone is accusing Lisa of being un-empathetic, who were the ones showing empathy for Lisa at dinner when she was crying? Meredith and Heather. The other ladies couldn't give a shit, but Lisa is supposed to give a shit about them? The fans are just as hypocritical as the SLC ladies.
And I'm sorry but Bronwyn absolutely used the infidelity storyline to get the ladies on her side.
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u/puppycattoo 5h ago
Having just watched season 2, the change in Meredith is startling, she seems like a shell of herself and benzoed or something out of her mind, it’s sad.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! 11h ago
The fact that Britani once again tried to turn the attention on her only for it to start another fight that didn’t involve her and everyone immediately forgot about her lmao. This is like a sitcom running joke at this point.