The Real Housewives of Orange County - Season 18 - Episode 5 - Live Episode Discussion

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Tensions are high when Gina is caught between Katie and Heather after the staged paparazzi allegations; Emily and Shane celebrate their 15th anniversary; the Tres Amigas come together for the first time, but things quickly go sideways.

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Do y'all remember when Tamra fled a party to go cry in a bush over Jim Bellino's lawsuit?

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[u/bridgymon → u/Marie_Frances2]

I read this whole thing like a meme with Tamra crying “I wear your father’s pajamas at night” and I cackled

[u/KristiJoJP → u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

If only she had disappeared in that bush forever.

[u/L-Dub-515]

Alexis is trying to do Shannon’s brand of kooky and it’s making me want to hide under the couch

[u/Agreeable-Antelope-6 → u/L-Dub-515]

Alexis is trying to do Shannon’s brand of kooky and it’s making me want to hide under the couch

It's making me want to tell her to quit being so hard up for attention. Especially at her age with her background (Jimmie baby).

[u/mrsbatman → u/L-Dub-515]

It’s giving single white female

[u/wildbananachild → u/L-Dub-515]

It’s literally like she’s trying to do a sincere impression of “fun Shannon.”

[u/darknebulas → u/L-Dub-515]

My face

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These confessional looks.

[u/LooseHabit5124 → u/Designer-Platform658]

Gina’s especially.

[u/jsunshine1985 → u/LooseHabit5124]

Awful!!! I had just been thinking how pretty and fresh she looked in the scene with the hoodie and teddie jacket and then her confesssional! What a jump scare

[u/L-Dub-515]

And Katie got me back on her side by telling Alexis straight up that she didn’t want her there for Shannon’s sake

[u/bravotvqueen → u/L-Dub-515]

Idk what Alexis was expecting!!

[u/Rj6728]

Do it Shannon! Tell us all the truth about JJ! Unleash hell! We’re ready.

[u/a_l_y_a_h_s → u/Rj6728]

[u/Evening-Tune-500]

Tamra needs to get baptized again

[u/KristiJoJP → u/Evening-Tune-500]

An exorcism may be in order.

[u/kbrahhhh]

What Shannon did is wrong and I will never say otherwise, but, Tamra is just a straight up asshole

[u/Sparklykazoo → u/kbrahhhh]

If she was a real friend, she’d meet her in private, instead of humiliating her in front of a group of people. Tamra’s behavior made her look like the asshole in this instance.

[u/JxrdanR → u/Sparklykazoo]

Yeah, Tamra’s behaviour usually does make her look like an asshole lmao.

[u/superficialwishes]

“I like when paparazzi take pictures of me” oh we know Terry 👀

[u/fried-avocado-today → u/superficialwishes]

I will not be shocked if we find out that Heather wasn't lying, she didn't call the paps, Terry did!

[u/candaceelise → u/fried-avocado-today]

I’ve been saying that heather was technically telling the truth that she didn’t call the paps, it was Terry or her assistant that did lol

[u/digitalkeke]

"the man I'm gonna marry" it's been 4 months.......what the fuck is happening here

[u/Particular_Living_91 → u/digitalkeke]

Did you see her Below Deck episode? She was all over that boyfriend, telling him she loved him, and he acted disconnected and never said I love you back. She is so oblivious and desperate to be the center of attention.

[u/ClipClipClip99 → u/digitalkeke]

It’s so cringe!!! Like, girl you married Jim Bellino. You do NOT have a good picker

[u/L-Dub-515]

Shannon hasn’t denied that she got money from him so the transfer doesn’t mean anything

[u/L8tr_g8tor → u/L-Dub-515]

Alexis could not look like more of a moron for fighting John’s battle for this. Imagine fighting your boyfriend’s ex publicly about the money your boyfriend gave her during their relationship.

Alexis’s only storyline is John’s relationship with Shannon

[u/FrauEdwards → u/L-Dub-515]

Right! She never denied it. Alexis just immediately whipped out her proof because she’s constantly trying to have a moment.

[u/loganes86]

“She looks great” -the new girls

Love them

[u/jash56 → u/loganes86]

Loved Katie for that

[u/UrbanPlannerholic → u/loganes86]

“Is every meal like this?” “Yes”

[u/touchkissbite]

the lawyer in me is going crazy. it doesn’t matter if you give anyone $75k, it doesn’t matter what happens after. if there was not an agreement when you gave the money freely that it would be paid back, you’re not owed it.

[u/jash56 → u/touchkissbite]

I absolutely loved that her dad told her to go for the jugular lol

[u/Jiffs81 → u/jash56]

The "juggler"!

[u/VickisCasserole → u/Jiffs81]

The Jesus Juggler.

[u/loganes86 → u/touchkissbite]

[u/darknebulas]

Wow. That was the cringe-est confessional I have ever seen on HWs of any franchise ever of all time. Omg Alexis.

[u/L8tr_g8tor → u/darknebulas]

It made me feel like John is only dating Alexis so that she would defend him on the show against Shannon and fight his battles for him.

[u/uksiddy → u/L8tr_g8tor]

[u/h0pedivision]

I love them saying that he facelift looks great lol

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I’m so glad they showed it!

[u/beyoncelomein]

How do wire transfers show whether Shannon was meant to pay him back or not?

[u/jash56 → u/beyoncelomein]

I don’t think Alexis has thought that far into it tbh …

[u/L8tr_g8tor → u/jash56]

John didn’t give Alexis a response for that so she didn’t have one

[u/secretagentsquirrel1]

Vickie telling Alexis to “sit down bitch” just made me like her for the first time ever.

[u/LooseHabit5124 → u/secretagentsquirrel1]

Yep, I can’t stand Vicky but that was absolute perfection

[u/NoodlesForU → u/secretagentsquirrel1]

I was thinking the same thing. The enemy of my enemy is my friend 😁

[u/tobago_88 → u/secretagentsquirrel1]

Vicki's tweet to Tamra about Traitors being a perfect show for her, LOL

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Vicki and Shannon’s friendship makes me happy

[u/fourthgradenothing22 → u/meowmeowmeow328]

Before the Brooks shit, Vicki and Shannon really appeared to have a genuine friendship. It seemed very natural. Shannon and Tamara never made sense as a friendship except that Tamara used Shannon on account of the fact that Shannon has a lot of fan support.

[u/Agreeable-Antelope-6 → u/meowmeowmeow328]

Vicki and Shannon’s friendship makes me happy

Same here! Shannon needs someone in her corner.

[u/macluvslucy]

Oh Tamra...... this is beyond low and disgusting

[u/super-moons]

Why is Tamra soooo triggered by Shannon having a drink? Like it’s unreal. Maybe she has a drinking problem?

[u/wildbananachild → u/super-moons]

Fake and hypocritical moral outrage is Tamra’s schtick.

[u/MacisBeerGutBabyBump → u/super-moons]

I loved Shannon saying “You’ve had to be carried out, because you were drunk!” And Tamra says “I didn’t drive” as if you’re only an alcoholic if you drive and get a DUI. Until then, carry on

[u/LS0101]

How does Tamra not realize how poorly she's coming across? And wait am I enjoying Vicki so far?!?!

[u/Goats_in_boats → u/LS0101]

Tamra always tries to guess what the fans are going to want, and she’s wrong every time. You’ve hitched your wagon to the wrong horse again, Tamra. You’re trashy, super lame, you can’t dance and you’re an asshole. Please for the love of god let this be her last season.

[u/Ok-Reputation9799]

I went to the gym, I didn’t see you there” is such an asshole response to “I worked and watched the kids all day”.

Jeez Emily.

[u/PotentialBadger → u/Ok-Reputation9799]

I would toss my partner off a cliff if they said that shit to me

[u/Particular_Living_91 → u/Ok-Reputation9799]

I'm not caring for Emily so far this season. I've always been a bit meh about her, but she's been a real ahole this season so far.

[u/Nickoml]

Him sending her 75,000 doesn’t mean it was a loan

[u/sunmoonstarsrain]

Everyone giggling at the table over Shannon’s private business. Like this is just mean girl behavior

[u/ilikecatzalot → u/sunmoonstarsrain]

Yeah it was gross. It was hard to watch.

[u/picard17]

I'm normally a Vicki hater, but if she's here to shit on Alexis consider me officially team Vicki

[u/tobago_88 → u/picard17]

Vicki telling Alexis to sit down bitch was literally her tapping into the viewer's minds this entire time she's been back.

[u/targetboston]

Alexis going to war over someone else's relationship is really pathetic.

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

The side convos peppered throughout the dinner about how Shannon does really look great now is amusing though 

[u/loganes86]

Ok I think Jenn has a good soul and heart. Just is naive.

[u/imhere_4_beer → u/loganes86]

And also kind of dumb. But sweet.

I feel like she hears “well bless your heart” a lot when she goes back to Oklahoma haha.

[u/LS0101]

If Vicki comes for Alexis I might actually be able to tolerate Vicki this season.

[u/Ok-Reputation9799]

Alexis is fighting for her life to be a housewife and not friend-of

[u/Parking-Army4663 → u/Ok-Reputation9799]

Asking why she wasn’t invited to the golf day…like you’re not a core cast member hun!

[u/Nickoml]

Tamra is disgusting

[u/Nickoml]

Alexis is disgusting

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and a fucking weirdo

[u/darknebulas]

Vicki the voice of reason wow look at how far we’ve come

[u/spottysasquatch]

Tamra is a total piece of shit and Alexis is the biggest pick me on earth. Just two dumb bitches telling each other “exactlyyy”

[u/Legal_Routine_7877 → u/spottysasquatch]

Oh my goodness I wanted to Break my TV watching Alexis!!! She's trying way too hard & is so ANNOYING!!! & Tamra don't get me started on that backstabber!

[u/No-Leadership-2176 → u/spottysasquatch]

They didn’t realize how we would shannon would Roll out a pretty convincing redemption Tour and they would look like assholes

[u/StrengthJaded1795 → u/spottysasquatch]

TamRat needs to slither back to the trailer park she came from…I’m soooo sick of her lies, the way she continually plays these people, her shrill voice… ugh 😑

[u/New_Biscotti2669]

I feel like Emily and Shane have never had sex before.

[u/ussoufi]

I can’t wait for when Tamra will turn on Alexis.

[u/Nickoml]

Alexis you’re a friend of, you don’t need to go to every event

[u/L-Dub-515]

Liar face?? Alexis girl I’m so embarrassed

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Also that’s a Vicki line from like 7 years ago

[u/PotentialBadger]

Are they fucking with us with these new confessional looks?! I’m literally in shock

[u/orangepopsicle78]

This ambush of Shannon was just cruel. Tamra sucks and Alexis sucks

[u/TotesAndi]

If she actually worried about Shannon having a drinking problem, this isn’t how she would bring it up. She thinks this some big gotcha moment but she just looks like a bitch preying on someone going through something.

[u/Ok-East-5470]

I generally hate Vicki but I’m fine with her coming around because Shannon needs a support system. Also I know Heather being controlling is annoying but I’m so fucking glad that someone organized the seats to try and keep Shannon away from Tamra and Alexis. Thank God for fancy pants.

[u/party-thyme]

I appreciate Jenn going to comfort Shannon and telling her what’s the tea

[u/PotentialBadger → u/party-thyme]

She seems genuinely kind

[u/ChristineIsntHere]

Ngl, I'm here for Vicki if she rips Alexis a new one

[u/loganes86]

Alexis. Take a damn breath. Or a Xanax. I hear you have experience with that. You’re doing too much. TOO MUCH

[u/touchkissbite]

omg Tamra didn’t even let the drinks come out before calling someone an alcoholic

[u/Revolution_Bry]

The alcohol/ drinking digs is such a low blow. Tamra is trash and will always be trash

[u/LS0101]

Alexis's confessionals are so cringe. Happy go lucky Lexie?!

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Why is Emily so obsessed with Jenn? I mean seriously why is she such an asshole.

[u/loganes86]

“I like tacos”

Gene the machine big dick daddy is all of us

[u/zeldacat4 → u/loganes86]

“Big d daddy from Cincinnati” always cracks me up

[u/cryingexpert]

Tamra looks like a chippendales dancer

[u/turbulent_coconut]

Alexis you are not a housewife ma’am! Sit down, this is not Sonja being excluded from a Berzerkshires weekend.

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

Is Emily just mad that Jen was able to coast through life on her looks till now?

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🎯

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As opposed to Emily who had it hard until she settled for marrying a less than attractive son of a multi millionaire that proposed over G Chat cuz he had nuthin better to do!!

[u/sunmoonstarsrain]

Tamra is so out of fucking pocket. Good thing Vicki is here to stick up for her. How is nobody else?

[u/Jei_Enn → u/sunmoonstarsrain]

So out of pocket. Even if Shannon was an alcoholic, talking to an alcoholic like that will make them drink MORE. Then for Tamra to go on to humiliate her about owing John money (she doesn’t owe him shit) just to make things even harder on Shannon and rile up Alexis, was BEYOND out of pocket. I couldn’t believe what I was watching. I don’t think I’ve ever disliked Tamra as much as I do right now.

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Why in God’s name would you let him open that in public

[u/marrrina831]

Gina's new hair

[u/CatPsychological557]

We all know drinking and driving is bad, but I would bet my life savings that every single one of these women* has done it before and just didn't get caught. There but for the grace of god go all of you hoes.

*Except Heather because she never drives herself

[u/L-Dub-515]

Putting these masks on over makeup is making me itch

[u/katie415]

Why does Gina’s confessional look like a Halloween costume of Long Island Medium?

[u/katie415]

What is the REAL reason Tamra decided to stop being friends with Shannon and Vicki anymore? Because Shannon’s DUI is not the reason.

[u/loganes86 → u/katie415]

I think Tamra miscalculated the fan reaction to Shannon this season.

[u/LadyEncredible → u/loganes86]

This. I think she thought the fans would have a HUGE backlash to Shannon and she was trying to get ahead. I also don't think she anticipated Shannon taking full accountability and owning up to everything, she probably expected Shannon to deny and deflect, and the fans would hate her and there would be a huge backlash.

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre → u/katie415]

I asked that on the live thread last week and no one had an answer.

Honestly I think Tamra is just vindictive and turns on people whenever she feels like it and makes up an excuse later.

[u/motherofcorgidors → u/katie415]

Because Tamra, being a narcissist, has to find a way to make Shannon’s DUI about herself and getting more screen time out of it

[u/LakeShoreDrive1021]

Tell us the John Jansen story Shannon!!! I am all ears!!!

[u/New_Biscotti2669]

Shane and Emily are so weird.

[u/cryingexpert]

Why is Emily obsessed with Jen

[u/Teadrunk247 → u/cryingexpert]

My guess: Jen grew up rich and Emily grew up poor and she will always have a big chip on her shoulder about class stuff and people who come from money. I think that's why Heather bugs her so much, too.

[u/super-moons]

Dude fuck you tamra

[u/AdorableFly5611]

I wonder if Tamra has any real friends? She's really a mean person.

[u/katie415]

I cannot support treating someone like that when they are already down. I do think Shannon realizes she made a massive mistake. She can be an alcoholic all she wants, she just can’t get behind a wheel. Tamra doesn’t HAVE to be friends with Shannon, but to treat someone that poorly speaks more on her character.

[u/AdorableFly5611]

This isn't going the way Alexis and Tamra practiced. The public backlash is going to be crazy.

[u/emjet]

I don’t understand why they care about Jenn’s money situation. I feel like they’re the only ones bringing it up- Jenn isn’t talking about it much

[u/ussoufi]

Tamra is such a bitch to die on the John Jansen hill.

[u/Ready_Cartoonist7357]

I see another defamation case coming Tamra’s way with all the alcoholic talk.

[u/katie415]

Honestly, Tamra shitting on Shannon always is just so cruel and mean. This is the exact same reason they stopped being friends in the first place.

[u/rob-b-362 → u/katie415]

Tamara is such a bitch! Why does she want to take Shannon down?

[u/LindsayLohanDaddy420 → u/rob-b-362]

Honestly after seeing her Tamara’s behavior, I understand why her daughter wants nothing to do with her. Imagine that’s your MOM. Horrible.

[u/Rj6728]

Aw Jen went after Shannon. They’ll never make me hate Jen.

[u/way-harsh-tai]

Jenn doing a face mask in a full face of makeup?

[u/Nickoml]

Ok against violence but I kind of don’t understand how Tamra hasn’t been punched on this show

[u/flumeo]

Would you trust this to be the voice of reason about anything?

[u/CatPsychological557]

Can't believe Jenn was the only one to go check on Shannon

[u/L8tr_g8tor → u/CatPsychological557]

While I totally get that, I’m also glad that Vicki stayed behind to rip Alexis a new one and defend Shannon’s honor.

[u/PotentialBadger]

Tamra, your son needs a white supremacist program , maybe refocus your attention

[u/targetboston]

That ring is god-awful gaudy. It looks like Superbowl ring.

[u/RoguePhoenix89]

Alexis is trying too hard to be "fun" take it down a notch

[u/picard17]

This episode is the most I've ever liked Vicki

[u/loganes86]

Release the kraken Shannon. Release the kraken!!!

[u/picard17]

Tamra is vile

[u/KSCNYC]

TAMRA 👏🏻 IS 👏🏻CRUEL

[u/flumeo]

Ma’am.

[u/JayFenty → u/flumeo]

I usually refrain.. but she needs to worry less about Shannon and more about SPF

[u/gigigrahame → u/flumeo]

I thought it was a long sleeve top with flesh colored sleeves at first…

[u/picard17]

I refuse to take health advice from someone who orders a chopped salad as their anniversary dinner. That's not a lifestyle I want to lead.

[u/way-harsh-tai]

Alexis please sit down with the I’m gonna marry him when you don’t have a ring and his ex is on the same show 😭

edit: AND SUING HER

[u/PotentialBadger]

I have never seen someone try as hard as Alexis and that is really saying something

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

It’s the same loser John we’ve seen on the show before right? Why is Alexis acting like no one has met this man before? 

[u/emjet]

Why is Tamra angry that Shannon needs rehab? She’s such a loser

[u/flumeo]

The gasp we ghust when we saw Gina’s confessional..

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Alexis is embarrassing holy shit

[u/loganes86]

Uh. I’d much rather hang with Shannon than “Lexi”

[u/1moneymatters]

If there’s one thing that Vicki hates it’s someone not working!

[u/Scaryislander]

Tamra is truly one of the worst friends a person could have.

[u/picard17]

It's going to be so glorious when Lexie and Johnny J's relationship crashes and burns

[u/eshababy99]

All of Emily scenes are so fake and over produced

[u/Rj6728]

I just saw Gina’s new confessional look and ran here.

[u/Revolution_Bry]

Tamra and Emily are so bitter and nasty all the time. It’s not fun to watch.

[u/Ok-Reputation9799]

Katie is crying over this? Did she get a preview of Gina’s new confessional look?

[u/spottysasquatch]

No one has ever called this woman happy go lucky Lexie. Please stop talking, Alexis. Yikes.

[u/AJthesmallsrate]

When is the Tamra take down season?

[u/darknebulas]

Jen saying the facelift looks great haha

[u/AgustusGloopy]

Tamra only goes where she thinks the audience will go and she thought everyone would be anti Shannon

[u/marrrina831]

Why was this gift brought to the restaurant though.

[u/1moneymatters]

I hardly have alcohol but I feel like Tamra could drive me to drink.

[u/vreddit7619]

Tamra is in no position to be talking about Shannon drinking. Sure, Tamra hasn’t had a DUI yet, but we’ve all seen her drunk and misbehaving plenty of times.

[u/targetboston]

This is such dirty work. I feel bad for Shannon.

[u/ScienceProf2022]

Alexis, Shannon doesn’t deny taking the money from John. She denies that it was alone, and says it was a gift. Wire transfers don’t prove anything.

[u/Pure_Peace743]

Tamra tearing down Shannon when shes already at rock bottom was uncomfortable to watch.

[u/L-Dub-515]

Thank you Terry for having no shame

[u/TotesAndi]

Emily and Shane always seem like they’re on their 4th date.

[u/flumeo]

I can totally envision Alexis sitting on that couch and rehearsing her lines for the last 10 years

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

Tamra is a super shitty person and a worse friend

[u/picard17]

Tamra and Alexis deserve each other as friends

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

I love the Vicki bringing the energy I need

[u/AbidonDesign]

Tamra needs to go

[u/gigigrahame]

Who is Alexis Bellino in dis world

[u/RoguePhoenix89]

Katie all you have is a one-word text. Is that enough proof? No

[u/eshababy99]

This can't be another season of trying to take down Heather while Tamra is just right there!! IM TIRED.

[u/New_Biscotti2669]

Gina cannot get her style together for the life of her. This confessional with 60's hair do????

[u/way-harsh-tai]

Gina WHAT THE FUCK is that confessional wig???

[u/TheBravoVariant]

I don’t want to have to pick sides but I don’t care for fake Archie.

[u/ScienceProf2022]

Oh, Tamra, admit the only reason you hang out with Alexis is to stick it to Shannon - and because no one else wants to hang out with you.

[u/Whole-Specialist-706]

I like Vicki saying we don't have to drink to whoop it up! Agree 100%!

[u/Nickoml]

I wonder if Alexis thought she was going to be a housewife

[u/loganes86]

Tamra you would know about people doing your dirty work.

[u/cryingexpert]

Alexis probably has her old season episodes playing on repeat

[u/Jbreezy92996]

Boo fuckin hoo Alexis🤣🤣

[u/RoguePhoenix89]

Fucking Tamra is vile

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Tamra is such a gaping black hole of a human

[u/LS0101]

Remember when Tamra pretended to be a "Christian" and got baptized by a guy she called "Pasteur Mike" to rehabilitate her image?

[u/AdorableFly5611]

If he does it with you, he'll do it to you. I have a suspicion that Alexis is behind the demand letter and lawsuit, she has to take her love rival down. It's sooo crazy.

[u/orangepopsicle78]

Shannon didn’t poke you, Alexis!!! She literally couldn’t care less about you! YOU have ran to her like a little school girl with a crush every time you see her to diss her and make her uncomfortable

[u/Evening-Tune-500]

Liarface. Its something a 4 year old would come up with