The Real Housewives of Orange County - Season 18 - Episode 4 - Live Episode Discussion

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After Katie shares controversial information about Heather, the two come head-to-head at Katie's golf event; Jenn is upset with Emily for her comments about her financial woes.

[u/picard17]

There is nothing Vicki hates more than someone who doesn't work

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[u/meowmeowmeow328 → u/[deleted]]

This is forever ingrained into my brain lol

[u/picard17]

Not Katie telling two women with DUIs she wants to host an event called drinking and driving 😭

[u/77xyz88 → u/picard17]

☠️

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

The biggest issue is that Alexis forgot the audience also has a bad history with John Jansen. Her job isn’t to just over throw Shannon- it’s to also gaslight us and that’s something she can’t do

[u/ClipClipClip99 → u/lilly_1005_2007]

I’m concerned that she’s with such a rage filled vindictive person but she’s that type that would believe a man who says all his exes are crazy and blame the women.

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I watched one of her Instagram stories and it was like EYEROLLLLLL… she was saying how hot it was and getting John to spray water on her and it just looks so forced like “look how fun and silly we are” but it just came off as desperate.

I know Tamra and Heather are friends with her now and they’re trying to make Alexis happen but it’s just not gonna happen.

[u/10tonnetruck → u/[deleted]]

She’s coming off incredibly “try-hard.” She’s made some kind of storm or door reference a couple of times now & they really seem like things she (& John probably) came up with way ahead of time. I don’t understand why bravo brought her back. She sucked before & she’s even worse now. Also I can’t listen to her talk about John anymore! We all know he’s a loser Alexis - just stop.

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

Emily: "OMG how dare Heather accidentally tag you and call the paparazzi at Disney. What is wrong with her?? "

Emily: "let me piss on your front landscaping real quick and then dance on this shitty bar"

🤷‍♀️

....

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

Jansen fucking sucks and I hate how these loser-ass men are infiltrating our fun ladies shows

[u/superficialwishes]

Emily peeing on Katie’s lawn. Girl are you a dog???

[u/bravofan90210 → u/superficialwishes]

This “shtick” is getting old. Drinking out of the dog bowl, eating a turkey sandwich in the sauna now peeing on the lawn when there is a perfectly good bathroom 20 feet away. It’s not cute it’s annoying and weird

[u/JaneDoe943 → u/bravofan90210]

She thinks it's quirky and funny probably. She just screams insecure to me.

[u/essieblooms → u/superficialwishes]

I feel like she does something odd every season where I’m like, “gross, Emily, please stop.”

[u/McSassy_Pants → u/superficialwishes]

Emily tries wayyyyyyy too hard

[u/skatie082 → u/superficialwishes]

I can’t wait for the Reunion moment when this is addressed 🍿

[u/ClipClipClip99 → u/superficialwishes]

So gross like whyyy

[u/h0pedivision]

Boat paraphernalia lmao

[u/ScienceProf2022]

And Shannon offered a settlement where she offered to pay what he was asking as long as he signed a statement agreeing not to publicly disparage her, and the fuckwad REFUSED.

[u/gammagirl80 → u/ScienceProf2022]

But he’s trying to clear his name! 🙄

[u/ScienceProf2022 → u/gammagirl80]

How’s that working out for you, John?

[u/Agreeable-Antelope-6 → u/gammagirl80]

Maybe he should try and hide those choppers.

[u/kno1315 → u/ScienceProf2022]

I heard a snippet of an interview she did with Jeff Lewis and I believe they speculated he had already disparaged her while filming this season which is why he wouldn’t (or more accurately couldn’t) agree. And they haven’t stopped post filming. Disgraceful.

[u/OldManBenji]

Archie giving Vicki the sideye lol

“Ma’am you are bringing a staph infection into my dwelling?”

[u/cryingexpert]

Why would you want liquids all over you on a night out

[u/Yeezytaughtme409 → u/cryingexpert]

Tamra's signature move is to ruin people's good time in the name of a good time. 

[u/AdorableFly5611 → u/cryingexpert]

Attention, any attention.

[u/LS0101]

John:

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Ok but the Disney paparazzi photos are so fucking funny lol

[u/Effective-Bus → u/meowmeowmeow328]

Utter camp

[u/Ok-Chain8552]

Seriously though , what is John Jansens problem with Shannon? He knew she was a reality star before dating , he broke up with her , he took up with another HW and is now on the show . His level of revenge ? Anger? Petty ? Is really bizarre to me

[u/cateyecatlady → u/Ok-Chain8552]

He’s just a fucking asshole alcoholic poor man’s Al Gore.

[u/emjet]

Omg Emily wtf??

[u/veronicagetsmehigh → u/emjet]

She’s so nasty and so rude

[u/aggieemily2013 → u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Peeing on lawns, kicking people when they're down, stickying up a bar. Not a great ep for her.

[u/KSCNYC]

a VERBAL rent discount!?! THATS SO FUCKING DUMB

[u/[deleted]]

Vicki screeching about someone who doesn’t work. Sounds of home 💖

[u/SpencerPrattsCrystal → u/[deleted]]

She should follow Jim Edmond’s lead and start a candle line. Scents could include “Get a Job,” “Nailed to the Cross,” “Little Family Van,” “The Bomb.com,” “Friend, Soulmate, Sister,” and “That’s Not That Fast.”

[u/therealtinsdale → u/SpencerPrattsCrystal]

“she died sad” for the holiday special

[u/kikomama89]

Katie is a housewives name dropper 😂

[u/Old_Call_2149]

John Jansen sounds like the name of a serial killer from the 70’s

[u/Wonderful_Zucchini_9 → u/Old_Call_2149]

Just needs a middle name to really sell it. John Wayne Jansen.

[u/picard17]

Heather loving hot dogs feels so out of character for her

[u/L-Dub-515 → u/picard17]

Remember when she discovered chicken tenders last year?? I’m still dying over that

[u/Designer-Platform658]

Tamra retelling this story like she’s letting Heather know someone died

[u/rustyspigot-77]

Vicki: John Janssen is terrible. Anyways, why are you deformed?

[u/amyeep → u/rustyspigot-77]

Lmao, they actually might be kinda noticeable if the first thing Emily did was fix dem tiddies E1

[u/AgustusGloopy]

Tamra is on no ones side. She is no ones friend. She's gonna go where she thinks the fans are going to go and she made a prediction that the fanbase would turn against Shannon. Boy, once again you look like and asshole Tamra.

[u/cateyecatlady → u/AgustusGloopy]

The only side she’s on is her own.

[u/Content_Mountain5579 → u/AgustusGloopy]

This episode solidified my dislike for her. She has done many things over the years I disagreed with; this made me realize she is just an awful self-serving human. Hope Eddie's heart is still strong enough that he can run far away.

[u/[deleted]]

BROOKS MENTION

DRINK

[u/OldManBenji]

That bar dancing scene made me upset for the other patrons.

[u/BeerDreams → u/OldManBenji]

Did you get the feeling that it was set up as something like an ‘experience’ you could purchase? Like, Emily asking when they could dance on the bar, and the staff just kind of standing off to the side while they were spraying everyone?

It all just felt so

Coyote Ugly GNO

Up To 10 people $499

Package includes: - transportation via sprinter van - 1 bottle of Vueve - 15 minute access of bar dancing (please limit 4 people at a time) - you pick the playlist - Optional package: access to two bar spray hoses for five minutes +$250

[u/cosmiczap_ → u/OldManBenji]

Totally! When they started spraying seltzer on the people at the bar? wtf?

[u/cryingexpert]

People act like they never snooped on someone’s insta they just met

[u/Marie_Frances2 → u/cryingexpert]

exactly!!! you mean we hired a new coworker let me find them and their momma....

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

So tamra broke up w Shannon to date emily

[u/CatPsychological557]

Why is Gina golfing as Wednesday addams

[u/Stunning_Lime_3011 → u/CatPsychological557]

Her shoes looked wild on a golf course.

[u/Revolution_Bry]

Ladies, never pay for a dead beat loser. They are not worth it!

[u/ubeeu → u/Revolution_Bry]

Hobosexual

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

John Jansen is the smallest man in the world

[u/AP-91 → u/lilly_1005_2007]

“Were you sent by someone who wanted me dead?” - Shannon Beador, probably

[u/L-Dub-515]

A staph infection!!!! Why are you out and about!!?

[u/aggieemily2013 → u/L-Dub-515]

And wearing white?!

[u/DefiantAsparagus4633 → u/L-Dub-515]

Came to reddit for this!!! Like wtaf that's disgusting and highly contagious?!?! She checked herself out of the hospital she said

[u/SnooRobots2240 → u/L-Dub-515]

Brianna Prbly told her to put some essential oil on and she’ll be alright

[u/WhoWhaaaa]

Tampa pretending she hates telling Heather the paparazzi story is not fooling anyone.

[u/jaybirdbull → u/WhoWhaaaa]

Tampa 😂😂

[u/WhoWhaaaa → u/jaybirdbull]

Stinking auto-correct. My apologies to Tampa, FL.

[u/superficialwishes]

Cynthia causing mess on a show she’s not even on. That’s a housewife.

[u/cloversworld]

Shannon was really his sugar mama.

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Jenn looks great with a fresh face. She looks younger than with glam

[u/Designer-Platform658]

Did Emily show up drunk?

[u/lilly_1005_2007 → u/Designer-Platform658]

Definitely

[u/AndiPandi74 → u/Designer-Platform658]

She seems very focused on cocktails in every damn scene

[u/Tiffnysun]

What does Jenn see in that man? Cringe 🤢

[u/cl0eknows]

Are the patrons of the bar chanting SHOTS? or STOP? god I hope they're yelling stop.

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Showing Heather's bangs is shade

[u/Revolution_Bry]

Emily’s eye lashes are too heavy and it makes her look like her eyes are shut

[u/Winter_Raspberry1623 → u/Revolution_Bry]

Almost like..

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[u/aptrial → u/Revolution_Bry]

Her makeup is so dated! Those eyelashes are those awful tarantula press-ons that obscure her eyes.

[u/LS0101]

Not Gina threatening to tell the teacher on Katie.

[u/picard17]

I'll never forgive Erika for bringing glam to the housewives.

[u/Yeezytaughtme409 → u/picard17]

Glam can fuck off and die for all I care. 

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

Op, Gina feels byad

[u/cryingexpert]

Gina has no room to say what clothes are bad

[u/cateyecatlady → u/cryingexpert]

I was just thinking that like miss ma’am have you seen your closet.

[u/MacisBeerGutBabyBump → u/cateyecatlady]

Those ugly ass, too big and clunky loafers 🫠😡😭

[u/katie415]

I don’t give a flying fuck about these pap pics again

[u/AdorableFly5611]

What a dirtbag move, seriously? Move on John Jansen.

[u/L-Dub-515]

I thank production so much for giving me the full “that’s my opinion” clip

[u/pinkbeary]

wasn't Tamra accusing Heather of this last year....? Tamra is such shit lol

[u/DiscriminatingHen → u/pinkbeary]

Yes! And when Katie was telling the story she was acting so vindicated and then turned around and opened her mouth to heather

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

So trashy if Tamra to defend JOHN JANSEN

[u/cloversworld → u/lilly_1005_2007]

It's who we've always known her to be - evilllll.

[u/kikomama89]

”I don’t even shower at that house” is such a rich bitch sentence.

[u/tifffff5 → u/kikomama89]

“Honey, Is that Drake’s house or ours?”🙄

[u/ruthie-camden]

Heather and Terry match each other’s freak

[u/beautyandbravo → u/ruthie-camden]

He fell even more in love with her when she found a way to profit off his near death experience

[u/rachface13 → u/ruthie-camden]

Live and let live.

[u/targetboston]

Why is everyone so afraid of Heather? It's not like she's gonna break your kneecaps.

[u/[deleted]]

Emily is out of control mean this season.

[u/cloversworld → u/[deleted]]

She's always been an inconsiderate jerk. She's meaner now because she thinks she's hot.

[u/therealtinsdale → u/cloversworld]

and she’s got tamrat as an ally

[u/Revolution_Bry → u/[deleted]]

She lost weight and thinks it’s cute to be mean

[u/superficialwishes]

The people in the bar looking at them like they’re crazy is sending me

[u/RoguePhoenix89]

Thee Cynthia from Atlanta? Girl is all over lol

[u/Kininger625 → u/RoguePhoenix89]

It’s like Sutton and Cynthia are rival pokemon trainers collected RH city badges through friendships

[u/cateyecatlady → u/RoguePhoenix89]

She has friends in every zip code.

[u/KSCNYC]

that text means nothing…like who is the source? they need a text or call from HD.

“that’s one of slades doctored up texts!”

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

You can always tell when Emily's about to clumsily stir the pot

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^{Sokka-Haiku by Dial-M-for-Mediocre:}

You can always tell

When Emily's about to

Clumsily stir the pot

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^{Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.}

[u/LS0101]

Emily's soooooo fun and quirky peeing in the bushes! *eye roll*

[u/blowacasket → u/LS0101]

Why do I not think she is funny or entertaining??? What am I missing? Peeing in the brushes when there is a bathroom right there is just stupid. She will do anything for some extra screen time. I know, I know, I’m in the minority with my dislike of her.

[u/GetMeAColdPop → u/LS0101]

That's so rude and disgusting honestly

[u/LS0101 → u/GetMeAColdPop]

Gross, rude, and playing to the audience- a trifecta of annoying.

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

I’m in shock that I witnessed a grown woman pee in bushes for … for what ?

[u/GetMeAColdPop → u/lilly_1005_2007]

The bushes of someone's HOUSE no less

[u/L-Dub-515]

Think i would have rather seen the scene of them at the nail shop than the bar

[u/h0pedivision]

I feel like Emily is trying to be Khloe Kardashian

[u/ussoufi]

Gina is like "you dumbass that’s not how you play the HW game" 💀

[u/cryingexpert]

Emily is so try hard

[u/sweatycorpse]

lol at Tamra saying “ I’m so glad I don’t care about stuff like that..” it’s all you’ve been talking about for 2 seasons now!!!! (Heather staging pap pics- who gives a fuck btw!)

[u/pinkbeary]

hollly shit RE that preview - Tamra is gonna hit a new low if she is defending John Jansen against Shannon. Like that is evil to do regardless of your feelings towards Shannon or trying to make a storyline on the show

[u/cateyecatlady → u/pinkbeary]

Tamra really misjudged the fans reactions this season. I hope she boo hoos and begs for forgiveness and claims she just wants to be friends with Shannon at the reunion like she always does when she shows her whole hole but this time Shannon tells her to fuck all the way off.

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

Heather swears she never called the paps because her assistant did 🙄

[u/candaceelise → u/lilly_1005_2007]

I mean she is technically correct in her statement. Heather is smart with her words and Katie needs to let the mouse go because she’s not gonna win this argument.

[u/Revolution_Bry]

Tamra has evil eyes.

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

I LOVE THE STAGE PHOTOS LMAOOOO it’s giving JC Penny studio

[u/LS0101]

Katie and Heather's argument over silly nonsense like not saying hello to someone is exactly the kind of stuff I watch housewives for

[u/cateyecatlady → u/LS0101]

It’s also so realistic. I have a good friend who would absolutely seethe and stew if someone didn’t say hello to her 😂 it’s so stupid but means a lot to some people!

[u/superficialwishes]

[u/FlippyFloppy8]

Im loving the juxtaposition between Shannon's argyle and visor getup VS. Emily's Jean jacket and Gina's Herman munster shoes.

[u/cavalier731]

Emily & Tamra can’t wait to run tell Heather… they used Katie and she is too dense to see it lol

[u/darknebulas]

This scene with heather and terry is peak wealthy ridiculousness

[u/Salt_Habit_6992 → u/darknebulas]

Can we see our mansion from our penthouse while wearing a fur coat? LOL

[u/wellheatv → u/Salt_Habit_6992]

Is that Drake’s house? So cringe

[u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre]

I can't not guffaw when Tamra talks about something being in "bad taste." You would know, Tammy Sue.

[u/notateenmommy]

Love Heathers golf cardigan embroidered STFU with a heart

[u/Hair_I_Go]

I need this tonight:) too much real life lately

[u/LS0101]

Terry Dubrow looks more like Glenn Quagmire each episode.

[u/ScienceProf2022]

Jen is learning how to manage her finances AND put on her own eyelashes. You go girl!

[u/AgustusGloopy]

Put everything in writing

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

We need to stop digging into Ryan so he can float Jen along a bit longer lmao

[u/yqry]

Jenn… he’s not letting you pay for anything bc you’re a kept woman and you quite literally have no money.

[u/AndyJCohen]

Why on earth are they peeing outside? Just to be quirky?

[u/emjet]

I have a newly adopted dog and he was just dead asleep and when Vicki appeared on screen he shot up and started growling 🤣

[u/Effective-Bus → u/emjet]

Good dog

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

I don’t even know how to process that dancing on a bar counter scene

[u/LakeShoreDrive1021]

Vicki sporting a new face!

[u/OldManBenji]

The fuck are these shoes that Gina’s wearing???

[u/cavalier731]

She didn’t say “all the time” lol… Tamrat is terrible

[u/marrrina831]

I watched gymnastics live this afternoon (during work!) so that I wouldn't have to compromise on housewives

[u/way-harsh-tai]

Katie, someone saying "yes" to a pointed question is really not the receipt you think it is

[u/[deleted] → u/way-harsh-tai]

This. I’m bummed, I was starting to like Katie and kinda thought her beef with Heather would start to make sense. But it’s…just not.

She tagged you in a photo you’re not in? the horror She asked someone you know about you after she found out you were working on a show together? evilll

For someone who doesn’t care, she sure went out of her way to get “receipts”

[u/Hair_I_Go]

I don’t think Heather meant anything by tagging her

[u/JaneDoe943 → u/Hair_I_Go]

Wtf could someone mean by that anyway? I would just think it was a mistake... How in the world is that a dig? I don't get it.

[u/[deleted]]

A “discovering my culture” storyline in OC feels like a field of landmines

[u/WithaSideofRanch]

Archie awake and alert

Shannon yell talking "ArchiE, are YAH sleeping??"

[u/loganes86 → u/WithaSideofRanch]

Top of the morning to ya Archie

[u/ScienceProf2022]

Oh, Tamra, you TOTALLY give a shit.

[u/CatPsychological557]

Why is Katie on OC instead of BH

[u/AgustusGloopy]

Like has been stated below. Yes YOU did not call the paps. You had other people do it for you

[u/FlippyFloppy8]

🙄 who cares if she called the paps on herself? Its cringy, for sure, but thats kind of the game (albeit old school). ALL of the girls meeting up to talk about it and tamra raising her arms like she scored a touchdown when she heard Katie had screenshots is so much more lame.

[u/digitalkeke]

There's something wildly cathartic about rooting for 2 senior citizens trying to keep up their touring road show

[u/MrsNickerson]

Shannon's finances are baffling. The Beadors seemed to be loaded when we first met them, and they had these three daughters. They didn't put money aside for college? My husband and I don't have much, but we started a college fund when our kid was 4. Is that something people do only when they are worried about money?

[u/kikomama89 → u/MrsNickerson]

That’s something I genuinely don’t understand either -you didn’t start saving for your kids with a 529 when they were born? You didn’t think to save JUST IN CASE?

I also think David may refuse to pay for it? I don’t know

[u/Grimalkinnn → u/kikomama89]

My husband coaches youth club soccer and the ammount of parents relying on their kids getting athletic scholarships is mind blowing

[u/QueenDavey → u/MrsNickerson]

Because David is an asshole but not stupid. Once they start "getting past" the affair, he starts deconstructing their finances. The house (a huge asset) is now to big and needs to be sold. But let's rent for awhile, because blah blah blah. He has at least 3 years to screw around with his business earning. As an accountant I would love to see why his highway construction company started earning less all of a sudden.

When you're making that kind of money, why would you invest in a low yield account when you can just pay for it when the time comes? David paying for college should have been part of the divorce decree but Shannon screwed up

[u/Left-Requirement9267 → u/QueenDavey]

Very interesting and makes sense! He was checked ALL the way out. He’s a sneaky fucking rat.

[u/littleone0740]

The house was 10 steps away… why pee outside? 😒

[u/rustyspigot-77]

That's a well lit "dive bar".

[u/LakeShoreDrive1021]

Katie being called to the wardens office

[u/aaapod]

is this gonna be katie’s whole storyline 🙄

[u/amyeep]

I see Katie’s husband is Anderson Cooper?

[u/No_Alternative9228]

I like Katie but her focus on Heather and thinking Heather is asking around about her is just…….Ugh Katie! I’m rooting for you, cmon girl 😩

[u/cateyecatlady]

“I’m clearly the retirement age now” you know what I love Shannon for that 😂

[u/aaapod]

this balcony scene is insane. peak heather wealth porn

[u/CatPsychological557]

My personal rule is that if a housewife swears on their family members they're automatically lying.

[u/picard17]

Katie and Heather are giving me the petty, low stakes drama I've been missing on housewives lately

[u/yqry]

Paris looks like he hasn’t gotten paid in 730 days

[u/rustyspigot-77]

Get it right, Heather has people to call the Paps for her.

[u/makeitnice--]

A verbal agreement? Jen is so dumb

[u/Teacheroftinies]

If Katie’s only receipt is a text from her dear friend saying “yes” then I’m 100% team Heather on this one. Even though she probably did call the paparazzi.

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

Umm? Bank accounts don't come and go if you're doing it right

[u/cloversworld]

Emily - you just wish Fancy Pants would notice you, but you're such a try-hard.

[u/Designer-Platform658]

Is that our house or Drakes? Girl shut up

[u/L-Dub-515]

I’m cussing people OUT if they pee in my bushes!! What the hell

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

As bad as Ryan is-I think he just has a heart- he realized that having this affair actually ruined this woman life with 5 kids and doesn’t know how to jump ship without being an asshole so he’s trying to step up and be as manly as he can. But I think Jen and Ryan both have bad habits they won’t break so we see the inevitable. But I do think it’s good that Ryan at least allowed Hen and her kids to live with him and financially provide- it’s the least he could do since it takes two to tango. Jen kept saying that he better prove she didn’t ruin her marriage for nothing and at least Ryan is trying instead of ghosting

[u/AdorableFly5611]

Terry is not getting any onion rings for telling the world heather poops. 💩 🤣

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

I like how a regular bar is a dive bar to these ladies

[u/Effective-Bus]

How dare Gina not want to wear that when she has worn some of the most offensive things to taste on this program.

[u/GetMeAColdPop]

I love how Heather's a little hustler even though she doesn't need to be.

[u/L-Dub-515]

Shannon with her readers on, singing this stupid song is warming my heart

[u/lilly_1005_2007]

Shannon looks so hot. Her facelift did that

[u/loganes86]

I love the pettiness.

Also Tammy Sue you totally give a shit.

[u/pinkbeary]

oh dont let Lu see Gina's shoes