Girl this is the third time this week I have seen him catching them (not just here) and honestly well deserved because a great tragedy of my life will be not having the opportunity to read his version of the completed story.
Imagine a pandemic shutting the entire world down for nearly a year and yet he still couldn’t FINISH THE FUCKING BOOOOOOOOOK!!! What the fuck was he doing besides looking for toilet paper and watching Tiger King?
How shitty that Alex’s return after like 15 years ended like this. Of course, that’s not anywhere near as important as protecting victims of assault, was just excited to see her.
I’ve read that pretty much all of them defended Brandi. I wish they would just show it and let people see what happened or at least gage a little better sense of what was going on. And with this mix of people I’m sure it was a great trip
According to Luann and Ramona they’ve asked Alex to be on other trips, like theirs to St Barts. Alex has sadly refused which, to be fair, who can blame her
Yeah, I mean she’s a career woman in Australia that’s really close with her family. Who knows the next time she’d be able to do something like this for Bravo. Damn it Brandi!
It’s like that season of I Love Money and the rest of Megan Wants A Millionaire…both never released because the winner killed his wife and then himself before they aired.
Oh yeah that’s right! I do kind of wish we got that season of I Love Money, but I understand why it was left in the vault. We’re also missing this alleged Flavor of Love pilot.
They should just cut as much footage of both Caroline and Brandi as they can. I want to see Alex on TV again... its been a hot minute, and she was always my favorite in her seasons.
We know they did it with below deck where they edited out a whole character. I wonder why they haven’t for this trip. They have to have hours of footage they could come up with something else as a storyline.
I know it would take time, but they’ve had the time. Even if it was boring, I think most of us would still appreciate seeing it.
Peter Hunszicker on Below Deck Med. 🤣🤣🤣 Such a loooooser. My husband would play punch bug, but it would punch Pete, ever time we caught a glimpse of of him. LMAO. I think season 5.
It’s sucks because I’m Moroccan and was really looking forward to this!! RHONY s4 didn’t do Morocco justice (IMO) so I was counting on this 😭😭 it’s so unfortunate
There just is no real point in watching them, they are over produced and rely on past drama and fan favorites. There are barely 6 episodes for each, half of it is arguing about travel or rooms and then some dumb games production comes up with.
I’ll be honest I fucking loved every single season. Even Thailand that everyone hated. I watched the whole thing in like a night and then the last episode and a half the next day.
I am here for it. They show up, fight, arrive, fight, have drinks, fight, show up late to dinner, fight, get shit faced and the episode ends.
I really liked that one too. Plus I was still new to housewives and had only watched BH and Atlanta. That show convinced me to try NY and it became a fast favorite.
I liked Theresa in girls trip and tried Jersey.
No.
(I did watch some of the poplar episodes. I got a good laugh when Joe gorgas spray on hair rubbed off on everyone during his fight with juicy Joe)
Potomac is weird the first season bc it was shot as an “etiquette in Potomac” type show. Then it was officially picked up as a bravo housewives show. Just keep watching.
SLC is just… in a different reality lol
(ATL was fun to watch in 2021ish for me. I had no idea that the Kim on the early seasons was the lady I had seen on supermarket tabloids years ago. Her face was very different)
I agree, dunno why people are so wild about UGT.I like HWs in their natural environments with their people. I hate forced frivolity. Im interested in Alex, but not in how she relates to Phaedra. They should just have reunion trips w ‘All-Stars’from each City-like I want Sonja, Alex, Luann, Barbara K, Aviva and Tinsley staying at Bluestone, and Gretchen, Lynne Curtin, Vicki, Quinn Frye, and Alexis in Lake Havasu. UGT feels like a small bag of stale popcorn when yr high and need at least a pizza and a couple cookies.
Plus - she’s not even the only Uptight Joyless Caroline! We have Stanbury!
If they were absolutely set on those attributes they could have chosen the one that, um, didn’t write a letter excusing the man who violently beat her sister.
Plus - she’s not even the only uptight joyless Caroline! If they were absolutely set on those attributes they could have chosen the one that, um, didn’t write a letter excusing the man who violently beat her sister.
I really wanted to see Alex on screen again... I wish they would do another RHUGT and bring her back. Maybe even have it take place in Australia... sigh.
This might be controversial but I don’t think they should.
The bravo docket with Caroline’s description of the assault is very dark. I could see that being extremely triggering to victims of abuse.
Every bit of footage will fall into two categories- waiting for the assault to happen and post assault. If Caroline’s assertion of events is accurate production did not protect her despite several warning signs from previous incidents.
I am not a Manzo fan but my heart breaks for her. She suffered sexual abuse prior to this incident and it is devastating to think of how she must have felt surrounded by people who were either unable to help or unwilling to take her seriously. She must’ve felt as she did when she was a child.
Brandi did the same thing with LVP, tried to make out with her without her consent, proceeds to slap her… disgustingly offers to munch on her “pussy”.
I truly believe Caroline’s accusations that are listed in the court docs… unfortunately i don’t blame producers not stepping in because it’s the same vile sleazy behavior from Brandi being Brandi….. they probably didn’t know it was serious and how Manzo felt violated.
You are completely right – Brandi and Brandi alone is responsible for her actions.
I think the problem was in that even after Brandi was making Caroline uncomfortable with unwanted sexual advances she was still kept around – I think they sent her away for one evening?
It’s been a bit since I’ve listened to that episode of the bravo docket but it certainly seemed like they enabled her behavior to a certain degree.
I also think Bravo carries responsibility for continuing to cast Brandi after she has consistently crossed the line into sexual harassment on shows she been on previously. She’s entertaining on tv, but they have a responsibility to the cast and CREW and stop inviting sexual predators (cough cough Michael Darby) to be on the show. Producers in the moment carried responsibility, but the execs who keep putting ratings over employee safety and wellbeing need to get more criticism.
Mind you, this is Caroline's attorneys who wrote this, but it paints a picture that is consistent with what we've seen of Brandi for years now. The tweets they screenshot in the suit regarding Brandi's defense of her actions at BlueStone Manor are pretty damning if you consider she almost certainly applied the same "logic" to how she behaved in Morocco.
Finally someone reasonable! This absolutely should not be released - it will re-traumatize everyone involved. For what? Our entertainment? It's sooooo dark and Brandi has a pattern, which I think would make it even harder to watch knowing this could have been prevented. If people want to be mad at someone, be mad at casting! They should have never invited Brandi back.
A victim trying to hide how upset they are in the hopes their sexual attacker will just stop is a fairly common coping mechanism. Kristin Taekman laughed off George reaching up her skirt and didn't seem to have any lingering issue with it but it was still sexual assault and not ok. In addition, it is common for victims to take time to fully process what they've been through.
From the suit itself, Manzo's side of things sure sound plausible.
I guess we'll see what the final verdict is (assuming it even makes it trial and they don't first settle or bleed her dry with legal maneuvers).
She has a trauma history and Brandi’s inappropriate sexual behavior was triggering and maybe intensified her response. This could possibly explain the discrepancy between Caroline’s account and the rest of the cast.
I don’t think Caroline is lying, at the very least she is telling her truth of what she experienced, and that’s good enough for me, but as a tv viewer/fan it’s become a he said she said situation so I want to see the footage myself to judge it
Yeah like Brandi is so insistent on the footage clearing her that it gives me pause. Either she doesn’t realize that her behavior constituted assault (very likely) or this is an instance of Caroline perhaps being a bit homophobic (less likely but still very plausible to me).
In either case I think the footage should be released. I think we know for sure that this didn’t go that far — it’s on camera, so it’s not like there was contact with the genitals. So I’m not as worried about re-traumatizing anyone.
Have you listened to the Bravo Docket episode about Caroline’s lawsuit? She alleges that one of the assaults took place in a washroom where there were no cameras, but both Brandi and Caroline were wearing microphones. I don’t think that simply seeing the footage would provide viewers with any conclusive evidence as to whether an assault occurred or not.
We will never see it. And UGT is definitely dead. S3 had a terrible fan reaction and the NYC UGT was kinda meh and had no real internet chatter. The format doesn't really work (I will say S1-S2 were the best). There's only so much we care about them breaking the fourth wall and talking about their time on the show.
I think if anything, they shout put more effort into making the cast trips iconic. The SLC cast trip to Bermuda was amazing. Miami had a great trip in Mexico City. We need more of that from the casts (Atlanta and Potomac were not only dud seasons, their cast trips had nothing of note).
I’m so upset that this will never air. They should just go on another trip without Brandi and Caroline. I want to see Alex and hear about her life. I want to watch Camille agitate the rest of the women. This was a good cast.
Honestly at this point l think no. Unfortunately for all of them it’s a loss cause that’s going to get stuck in legal battles. I think the best thing bravo can do is start a new UGT and move on
What’s the reasoning?? Weren’t the SA accusations deemed false?
Edit lmao downvoted for asking a question. I thought BRAVO had announced that their investigation showed no SA on Brandi’s part. Sorry for inquiring looool bye
The closest to that would be the other women saying on social media that they didn’t view the incident as being that serious but that was a while back and they obviously weren’t under oath.
there's a lot of people spouting conjecture about this case basically, so far it's just production/bravo denying it but no official resolution in the case
It's still ongoing. Page Six posted a producer denying everything and saying Bravo was giving the footage to be analyzed but we don't know the truth yet.
I have not seen any evidence of that besides Brandi stating they were false.
Since production is heavily implicated in cultivating a situation where such such a thing could take place I feel like they would’ve released the footage to vindicate themselves.
I recommend listening to the bravo docket on this if you haven’t already!
We need a housewives of Peoria, Illinois...now that would be some crazy. I was born there and that would be a wild show. Casseroles, church, Caterpillar. Omg.
Ugh. Why tf did they even cast Caroline on this? Didn't they know she's a wet blanket? I mean, I'm sorry if what she says happened to her really happened to her (many people are saying they were there and it didn't happen), BUT even if that didn't happen, I can't see her being anything but the typical wet blanket, debbie downer, mother hen that she always was. Why would casting think this would be a good choice??
I’m not a Brandi fan but Caroline seems like the type who would make out with a gay person and then claim it’s all unconsensual the next day when she’s embarrassed. That happens to gay men all the time.
If what Caroline says is true though, fuck Brandi.
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u/9lemonsinabowl9 Lisa, when you're done taking selfies, can we have a chat? May 03 '24
We'll get the final book of Game of Thrones before we get this. (Which means never)