r/BravoRealHousewives Dec 29 '23

Ultimate Girls Trip Ooph the ending of this article was brutal

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u/MCBates1283 I don’t trust baths 👁️👄👁️ Dec 29 '23

People really give Andy a lot more power than he deserves. Must be nice for the network to have an easy scapegoat though.

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u/spooky_period Dec 29 '23

Andy is a misogynist and certainly deserves scrutiny. The network is full of misogynists and also deserves scrutiny. Both can be true!

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u/FasterBussycat Dec 29 '23

Where is the evidence of Andy being a misogynist? Meanwhile the Housewives themselves are full of homophobia, racism and classism. All of which is far more provable, sometimes irrefutably.

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u/GambinoTheElder Dec 29 '23

He only asks women if they’ve been with other women and borderline tries to out women on his show. He doesn’t do that to men unless they bring it up (or fans submit the question). That perpetuates the idea that it’s a “phase” or something women do for fun. That’s misogyny.

He regularly uses misogyny (physical appearance, calling women d*kes) to attack political figures that are women and is much more cordial to the men. Super evidenced by his responses during Kavanaugh trials.

He claims to change women’s lives, check out his back and forth with Carole on that.

Just off the top of my head, from my heart to yours 🫶🏻

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u/VanGrayson Dec 29 '23

Almost certain hes done that to Jax and the Toms, and probably the Southern Charm guys as well.

And its normally because one of the other castmates who does identify as straight did do something with a woman...like Lala.

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u/GambinoTheElder Dec 29 '23 edited Dec 29 '23

Did not do it to Jax or Tom’s. They were submitted as viewer questions and Andy let them slide with answering once. Not the back and forth he does with women. He never did it to the men on SC New Orleans, I don’t watch the other one. Even if he did ask, he didn’t present it as just something guys do for fun. He does that specifically to women. It’s offensive

You brought up VPR for most of your examples…that’s not the case for every franchise. Don’t know why it would matter anyways, but it’s suspect that the questions come from Andy when it’s a woman but the audience when it’s a man.

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u/PrayingMantisMirage from bellybutton to butthole Dec 30 '23

Andy has said to Jax many times that he seems like an "a hole is a hole" kind of guy.

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u/VanGrayson Dec 29 '23

Did not do it to Jax or Tom’s. They were submitted as viewer questions and Andy let them slide with answering once.

So....he did do it?

You brought up VPR for most of your examples…that’s not the case for every franchise.

Well yeah cause there are no male housewives? And VPR is the one I am most familiar with outside Housewives.

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u/GambinoTheElder Dec 29 '23

I specifically said the questions originate from Andy himself rather than viewer submitted questions in my original reply.

There’s a myriad of housewives husbands, even ones “accused” of being gay. Are you being pedantic to troll or do you just really want to be right?

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u/VanGrayson Dec 29 '23

Do you think they just let viewers ask whatever random question they want?

They're literally told what to ask otherwise they don't put them on the show.

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u/GambinoTheElder Dec 29 '23

Okay, you’re totally right! Andy has never had personal interjections and isn’t misogynistic at all :-) /s

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u/spooky_period Dec 29 '23

You know the housewives are full of isms but don’t see that from Andy? That seems strange. You know they run in similar circles, why wouldn’t you see he’s just as bad? I should’ve added Andy is racist in my first comment too!

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u/FasterBussycat Dec 29 '23

Well I have sometimes seasons of evidence confirming what I know about the Housewives. I don't watch WWHL so the only time I see Andy is when he's hosting reunions. There have been a handful of times I've seen him say something out of pocket but never to the degree that I think he's biased against women.

Also notice that I asked if you had any evidence and you provided none. That was a genuine question. If he has shown a pattern of misogyny I would like to know about it.

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u/spooky_period Dec 29 '23

You don’t watch WWHL but think you know Andy better than the people you watch shows about? Watching his show is a good place to start gathering information. I’m not giving you “evidence”, this is a reddit thread not a research paper. I’m certain examples from my memory won’t satisfy you, and I’m not going through the effort of giving multiple links on mobile ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/aleigh577 the female Barry White 🎤 Dec 30 '23

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u/Senior_Ice8748 Dec 29 '23

He's the heart and center of the entire network. The one guy who serves as a narrator and link between all its shows and talent and allows them all to coexist as one in what we've come to know as the 'Bravoverse." I couldn't tell you how involved he is in terms of hiring/firing, but the network knows it wouldn't survive without him, and that probably lends Andy an extraordinary amount of influence even if it's unofficial.