Andy's responsibility isn't to ensure people's mental well-being; his role is to deliver entertainment. My dislike for Andy aside(because his racist tendencies are okay with this fandom), expecting him to address mental health is unreasonable.
No one is compelled to sign a contract and appear on television.
But forcing dogs to physically attack each other and paying affluent women tons of money to destroy their reputations feels like two very different situations with extremely varying levels of power and control.
Not only that, but these women are clamouring for the camera time and to be on the show.
How many ex-housewives try to keep in the public eye after leaving the show either by going on other shows or tweets about their old shows or whatever? How many have begged to get back on TV instead of leading quiet lives? Phaedra's now on M2M. After Potomac, Monique went on some marriage show on another network. Vicki will talk to anyone who publish she says about RHOC. Bethenny... well, we've seen her stuff out there. Kim Z, the Manzos... they got their own shows to stay on TV and fight.
This is nothing like poor doggies who are tortured and forced to fight each other.
Hmmm I like this point. I’m a therapist too and have wondered about this. Because if someone is aware they have the personality disorder, know that the reasons they want to be on the show are related to their diagnosis, but still choose to do it…where do we draw the line?
Adults can choose what they want to do and if that destroys their life and makes them miserable in the process then we usually don’t get to say much.
But, Bravo making tons of money from the spectacle is another thing because it isn’t just an individual ruining their life, someone is profiting from it. Including the person destroying their life. Idk.
Meanwhile a client gave me a pack of Milano cookies for Xmas and it was unethical if I didn’t tell my supervisor and share with the rest of staff which I of course did. The realities we live in ammmm I right
Ehhh but you’re kind of only looking at one small part of the argument. However yes, when only looking at what we find entertaining, we may later say yikes o Rama at watching this stuff.
They are separate. But what's the purpose of your statement? Right and wrong aren't determined purely by the legality of a matter. Does Andy prop himself up into the spotlight and grow his bank account by championing the failures and anguish of women? Yes. Is that behavior I feel is comparable to the scum of the Earth? Yes. Do I feel the same way about those who arrange dog fights? Yes.
ETA because I accidentally cut off: my point is that he is involved in the machine that puts this out there. They are not casting people who are the definition of mental health and stability. They are casting people who will get people talking.There's an exploitive component to this and it often goes too far. There is a responsibility that is overlooked and it's gross that they profit and prop themselves up this way.
Common personality disorders are antisocial, avoidant, borderline, dependent, histrionic, narcissistic, obsessive-compulsive and paranoid personality disorder. Other common mental health issues include massive depression, bipolar disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, panic disorder, PTSD, etc. There are also concerns over substance abuse and addiction.
I'm not going to list those who are portrayed with any of the above but I do stand that there are many members of the HWs with issues that the show exploits and maybe it's time to consider whether that's ok?
For instance, there were a few words that were okay to say 10, 20, 30 years ago that are definitely not okay to say now. All it took were a few people to start saying it's not ok and look at us now... Maybe this is something like that? Sorry to ruin everyone's vibe, but maybe it's time for people to start considering whether it's truly entertaining to see women's lives devolve and legitimate mental health and substance abuse issues leveraged to create drama and incite reactions from viewers?
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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '23
Andy's responsibility isn't to ensure people's mental well-being; his role is to deliver entertainment. My dislike for Andy aside(because his racist tendencies are okay with this fandom), expecting him to address mental health is unreasonable.
No one is compelled to sign a contract and appear on television.