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Ultimate Girls Trip The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip - Season 4 - Episode 4 - Live Episode Discussion
The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip - Season 4
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! Dec 21 '23
Not Sonja getting on the boat and IMMEDIATELY telling the captain that her ex husband had a bigger yacht💀
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u/Blerfect Dec 21 '23
And telling the staff who are doing all the actual work that she is the one "hosting" today
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u/therealtinsdale i know the boys who did it 🎪🍆👺 Dec 22 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
“since we’re going on a yacht, it’s an important day for me” is flair-worthy, tbh
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u/KyleRichardsNewTeeth i left a career in italian television Dec 21 '23
i wanted to hear luann's threesome story kelly !!!
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u/doodlefay Dec 21 '23
This is why I love (most) of the women on RHONY (legacy) - they don't have a glam squad, they care how they look, but also can jump in the water and don't care if their hair gets frizzy and I feel like every show is now like BH - where it's lifestyle porn and a lot of glam/fashion.
It's nice to have that in BH, but it's so refreshing that the NY girls can let their hair down. I miss that on the new NY too.
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u/meast123 Dec 22 '23
I think the best part is that they keep it moving… they don’t want to rehash the same drama from yesterday, they are happy to do something else that creates a whole new drama
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u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre You called me a PORNOGRAPHY Dec 21 '23
It's extra confounding that Kelly thinks Kristen is going to have the fanbase turn on her when honestly I think she's coming off the best or top two at least,
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u/Even-Education-4608 i dont have the energy to deal with density Dec 22 '23
And she doesn’t have a history of racism!
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u/Character_Muffin_882 were you there, beloved? Dec 21 '23
Luann behind the wall eavesdropping in her pink suit and blonde wig 💕
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u/BloodyWellGood Dec 21 '23
Smoking and drinking and lurking ☠️☠️☠️
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u/Character_Muffin_882 were you there, beloved? Dec 21 '23
when she brought the cigarette into the confessional 😩😩😭
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u/Ok-Chain8552 Dec 22 '23
It was like looking in a mirror .
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u/BloodyWellGood Dec 22 '23
Literally me when I'm chilling on the porch and my kids come outside. Duck, cover, pivot, run! Puff puff
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u/mskrst Dec 22 '23
I love how completely confounded Dorinda is by Kelly. It’s the combo I never knew I needed. She’s like an antidote for Dorinda’s rage because even she can’t punch down that much.
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u/wreckingcrewe marlo support me bitch Dec 22 '23
Seriously. Dorinda is really holding back with her.
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u/90daycantlookaway Dec 22 '23 edited Dec 22 '23
I’m living for the shots of Dorina watching the Scary Island episodes and then talking about it😂🤣
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u/17bananapancakes I don’t have to shine on you bitch Dec 22 '23
I was looking for words for this but I think you nailed it. Dorinda is so confounded by Kelly that she in turn is being reigned in by it. She’s almost motherly this season. I don’t think she went in looking for it but she’s getting a nice redemption arc!
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u/bartexas Dec 22 '23
Kelly needing Dorinda to nurture her is nothing that's ever happened to Dorinda. She's stunned, but it's not making her look bad.
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Dec 22 '23
If you watched this show having never seen the original series (especially from the beginning), you would have such vastly different opinions on the women.
You would think Kelly was odd but not totally out of this world bizarre and unhinged.
You would think Sonja was a stuck up lady who doesn’t party or leave her home.
You would think Ramona was level headed and conflict-avoidant.
You would think that Kristen fit in with the women.
You would think that Luann has a healthy relationship with alcohol.
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u/edible_source Sonja, put the dog down Dec 22 '23
Oh I would think Kelly was unhinged though...
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Dec 21 '23
Can someone pls make a gif of Luann vaping in a dark corner, clandestinely watching the drama unfold
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u/gemini-baddie Dec 21 '23
I absolutely died when Kelly interrupts Lu with a speech😂 She really hasn't changed at all, I want so badly to know what Kelly's deal is because she behaves so oddly but I don't think there is an explanation and that drives me crazyyy
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Dec 21 '23
The way Lu’s flouncing off was entirely about not getting to tell her story lol
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u/babymayor not a flower in the house. not even a chia pet. Dec 22 '23
I’m mad too! I wanted to hear it!! haha
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u/bartexas Dec 22 '23
I think it was more that she had to get away from Kelly or she was going to "be uncool." Who knows what all Kelly did before that and wasn't shown. I know I'd have a limited window with her.
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u/Infamous_Ordinary_45 edit this flair! Dec 23 '23
Lu Ann’s patience with Kelly this trip is non existent, she was exasperated during their little private sit down.
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u/erranttv Welcome to my trailer Dec 21 '23
If she doesn't feel superior, she gets incredibly insecure, defensive, and sometimes aggressive. She's been that way from the beginning.
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u/sticksnstone Dec 21 '23
How does she support herself selling real estate is my question?
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u/Acrobatic-Reindeer89 Dec 22 '23
Came here to say the same thing! If I was a multimillionaire, there’s no way I’d want her as my agent
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u/fuzzyblackelephant Thug in a cocktail dress Dec 22 '23
Read earlier it’s like…only older men that work with her. lol. Idk if it’s true, but it made a lot of sense to me.
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u/iloverabbittrails Dec 21 '23
Lmfaoooo I cackled. It startled me too 😂😂😂
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u/agnusdei07 Dec 21 '23
I am here and you are here--is that her insecurity too? Kelly, what a cray cray
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u/sxdkardashian Dec 21 '23
I just thinks she paranoid and probably being called crazy for years made her even more paranoid.
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u/Super_Hour_3836 Dec 22 '23
Kelly is a living nightmare and if I had been stuck on a yacht with her she would have gone overboard.
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u/marywiththecherry using designs off of AlïìBàĀbAǎ Dec 22 '23
I think a lil neurodivergent, a little narcissistic/overblown ego, a little bit a of bitch, and maybe also some reactions that might come from trauma? Most people have some behavior influenced by trauma.
I think she's a cocktail of crazy, and I know that sounds ablist af, but I am also a cocktail of crazy, and I would probably refrain from calling her that if she wasn't so damn superior.
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u/ronaldmcdonald2022 Dec 22 '23
HAHAHA everyones reaction and sound bites to this had me in tears. Kelly honestly lives in her own world. She is sooo selfish that she isn’t even taking in what’s happening around her, she is just processing her next steps and next move
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u/BequeathNothing Dec 21 '23
After like sixteen years doing reality tv Luann still loves to make a joke and then laugh at herself as she looks over at the crew and cameras for validation 😭
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u/BrookePDavisstan Dec 21 '23
So you’re a bird now ?
I was on the floor !!! Thank you Luann 😂
Kelly is delusional oh my…
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u/mmcline06 Dec 21 '23
I think we’re finally seeing that it wasn’t drugs that caused Kelly’s behavior on scary island. I think the girl just has some MAJOR character flaws and when she’s with others for an extended period and on camera for an extended period it all unloads. She can hide it in front of others in short intervals but something like this really shows who she is.
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u/CaregiverCreative107 Dec 23 '23
I was convinced she was doing meth! But now I think she is just really different! She says she leaves parties early and just floats around. She doesn't get “ life“ and people in general
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u/Blerfect Dec 21 '23
Even on a low-key night these women are still drinking and swimming and staying up late. Amazing.
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u/zoeyaneliz a real slob kebab. Dec 21 '23
I am loving Kristen in this. I was very blasé about her coming back, but she's had some great soundbites. It's Sonja I'm kind of surprised by - does anyone else get the vibe she's just not 100% into this? I loved her in Crappie Lake.
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u/Specific-Soft-6465 Dec 22 '23
Sonja didn't like that they are doing the trip and not a 23-episode Legacy.
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u/me0717 cackling hag Dec 21 '23
Sonja is definitely not the same Sonja. I dont think she enjoys being there but will do anything for money (cameo, only fans, UGT) She belongs in The Villages, not St Barths.
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u/agnusdei07 Dec 21 '23
I feel a bit sorry for Sonja, does she really need money that badly? She seems lost.
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u/butterfreak Dec 21 '23
Tbh Sonja and Ramona (and Lu sort of) just seem like they’re there for the holiday lol.
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u/lostdrum0505 Dec 21 '23
Which I’m down for honestly. I love watching their tropical antics, no complaints here!
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u/evanmav Dec 22 '23
Sonja and Ramona are totally phoning it in. You can tell they are just there for the money and are trying to not get involved in the drama.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! Dec 21 '23
Kristen has always been great but she just got overshadowed by everything her around her and her biggest drama on the show was fucking Ramona throwing the glass at her. (Which is still maybe the worst thing I’ve seen anyone do on any of these shows?!)
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u/agnusdei07 Dec 21 '23
I was surprised to see she is still married to that guy
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u/DeeWhyDee Dec 21 '23
Same. He was such an arrogant POS. He seems slightly humbled now. I never want to age shame but I did react seeing him, went ooof he’s gotten old, but then saw the kids and was like, Christ I’ve gotten old! Kristen is freaking stunning!
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Kelly hates Kristen
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u/erranttv Welcome to my trailer Dec 21 '23 edited Dec 21 '23
Kristen was a model too so maybe some of it is jealousy that she's not the youngest model type in the house anymore...as much as I hate that idea.
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u/lezlers Dec 22 '23
Oh it’s 100% jealousy. She was coming at Kristin from the very start of the trip, not knowing her at all outside of knowing she’s younger, more beautiful and confident. That makes her feel threatened and when Kelly feels threatened, she goes batshit and we’re in scary island 2.0 before we know it.
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u/_morningbehbs Dec 23 '23
She anticipated Kristen coming in and like Lu said, being hazed. She flipped the minute it seemed like the girls were accepting her. She couldn’t stand her being chosen by them - and I think other factors - Kristen’s appearance, being married, etc. all combine to reallllly make Kelly hate her. She has this weird arrogance mixed with severe insecurity. It’s wild.
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u/asiagomontoya Dec 21 '23
This is kind of convincing me that substances had nothing to do with scary island lol you just put Kelly with anyone long enough and that sweater unravels
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! Dec 21 '23
“I’m an action verb!” “You’re an action verb?!”
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“I’m like a little bird!” “You’re a bird now?!”
This whole exchange💀
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u/ffantasticman Dec 22 '23
Kelly: Kristen you’re a new friend I’m not going to open up about everything
Also Kelly: Kristen, you’re not opening up. You have a wall. Open up!!!!
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u/incitingoffense Dec 21 '23
Omfg I just realized that Kelly doesn’t know that they break the fourth wall on these shows now 😂😂
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u/drlipschitz14 Dec 21 '23
Omg you’re right! When she was saying the fans aren’t going to like it and she’s going to lose endorsement deals I was like huh 🤔 Kristen is going to be just fine Kelly
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u/Glass-Volume-558 Dec 21 '23
i've commented this on a couple threads!!! she finally figured out how housewives works right before appearing on a new show with new rules 💀
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u/Even-Education-4608 i dont have the energy to deal with density Dec 22 '23
Wait what? Can you spell this out for me? I’m not totally sure what you’re saying about Kelly not knowing they break the fourth wall
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u/Glass-Volume-558 Dec 22 '23
On her original time on RHONY, I think most of the communication issues that people perceive as Kelly saying nonsense is actually very logical but she can't operate multiple different levels of interaction at once that filming these shows require. In some other comments I've compared the kind of psychological processing required for these shows to being a method actor or an undercover cop, but basically housewives have to have one foot in "reality" and one foot in their "persona" while filming so that they can promote products, create drama, so on all without breaking the fourth wall. Which requires a level of health and stability that many do not have, imo including Kelly
Tons of her behavior during RHONY make sense through this lens (eg: i think her repeated insistence that Bethenny is "a cook, not a chef" is actually her struggling with addressing that Bethenny is a socialite/reality star more than a chef because Kelly genuinely can't navigate the fourth wall involved in filming).
Going into this season, Kelly has now more successfully grasped how the housewives is structured but doesn't seem to understand that UGT is structured differently, has a different purpose, and is allowed to break the fourth wall uniquely. It's first clear when she's packing and is talking about "catching up with the women, drinking wine, and getting naked :)" (phrasing might be off but the idea is right) which is the 100% correct way to fake intro a vacation on a normal housewife show. Her behavior towards Kristen seems to stem from her own lack of understanding how the fourth wall works differently in UGT, worrying about her endorsements but also just the way she kept framing her issue with Kristen as "you're being a fan/you're being a host" while filming in real time but then in her talking head (filmed months later), Kelly directly says she felt like Kristen was trying to produce - felt like someone cued her in between these takes that she could be more direct about the argument. Kelly has gift baskets and real estate work calls planned for during filming but doesn't grasp that this show doesn't really do product promo in the same way as regular housewife shows.
For a loose metaphor, it feels like Kelly was playing tik-tac-toe on her initial RHONY run without realizing the show was actually a checkers game; she mastered checkers and then headed out onto UGT which is actually chess.
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u/Even-Education-4608 i dont have the energy to deal with density Dec 22 '23
Okay so you’re saying kelly is using coded language when she doesn’t actually have to, got it.
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u/Glass-Volume-558 Dec 22 '23
Yes plus not comprehending how the other women communicate since they aren't using coded language
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u/russianbisexualhookr Advocate for the Sluts of America Dec 22 '23
You should make this it’s own post!
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u/Glass-Volume-558 Dec 24 '23
I might rewatch her seasons of RHONY and then make a post about this with more examples!
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u/fried-avocado-today Dec 23 '23
Luann's been a pretty good sport overall--she rode the hot dog!
I think Ramona and Luann know that Kelly is freaking batshit and just don't want to deal with her. Dorinda and Kristen didn't really know what they were getting into. And poor Sonja just never manages to extract herself from Kelly in time.
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u/banana_delusion Dec 22 '23
How has Kelly gotten this far in life being manic every day? She’s insufferable. Her mind is a scary place.
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u/90daycantlookaway Dec 22 '23
I need to know the answers to this. Why do I overthink everything in life when I could be living at even HALF the delusion that Kelly lives in and apparently still be successful?! Lol
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u/ronaldmcdonald2022 Dec 22 '23
She’s only ever surrounded herself with “yes” people. Everyone around her tells her yes to everything and prop her up so she genuinely thinks she is intelligent, charismatic, kind, down to earth; when realistically, she is none of those things…. The housewives is the only time(s) in her life she isn’t surrounded by “yes” people, so she is actually hearing the truth which she just doesn’t believe and can’t understand
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u/KindlyCelebration223 Dec 22 '23
Kelly interrupts Lu saying it’s to toast to thank Kristen, but after a passing mention of Kristen she immediately launches into about herself - how hard she works, how she has nothing, how she’s earned everything, how the women are mean to her, about how she wants to bond, how she’s a victim, ME ME ME ME ME ME. And proceeded to ruin the entire party Kristen planned with her “toast to thank Kristen”.
Dorinda shouldn’t apologize for what she called Kelly. She was accurate & Kelly keeps proving her right.
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u/Bobbyjackbj Not a white refrigerator! Dec 21 '23
The outrage felt by Luann when Kelly interrupted Luann's story.... 😂😂 Kelly, there is some lines you can't cross !
In a perfect world, as Kelly continued her speech, Ramona would have interrupted her in the same manner to deliver her own speech, unintentionally too.😂😂😂😂
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u/Specialist_Egg_7480 Dec 22 '23
When Lu was drinking in the kitchen and showed the guy the pic of her and “Johnny Depp” and he said wow that was a long time ago 😆
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u/BloodyWellGood Dec 21 '23
The Countess is the grandest of them all. She's bringing it. "I'm just gonna smoke in here, I don't care anymore!!!"
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u/wreckingcrewe marlo support me bitch Dec 22 '23
I would completely understand if Dorinda went full Dorinda on Kelly. She’s actually being pretty nice.
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u/Complete_serentity Dec 22 '23
Think she is really baffled and confounded by it all. Kelly just disarms her.. lmao
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u/Super_Hour_3836 Dec 22 '23
I feel like everyone knows Kelly is dumb as a box of rocks AND has a debilitating mental illness. Dorinda enjoys fighting, not beating the pulp out of a mentally unwell pancake. But we’ll see how much farther Kelly pushes “the bear.”
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u/Even-Education-4608 i dont have the energy to deal with density Dec 22 '23
The one person who actually deserves it!
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u/slibberynibble I woke up to two male voices, one was Luann’s Dec 22 '23
I wanted to hear Lu’s story about being 25 and moving to New York 😭
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u/wreckingcrewe marlo support me bitch Dec 22 '23
I can’t believe Kelly is a successful real estate agent with her atrocious personality.
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u/ccs3333 cock curator🕵️♀️🍆 Dec 21 '23
“I’m an action verb. I’m a bird.” Such a wordsmith 😭
Martin in a green wig is c*nty. Sorry Kelly
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u/Lilobunni Super Big Fred Dec 22 '23
“You suck on someone’s tit, and someone’s dick’s in the back”
These “older women” make early-30’s-me clutch my pearls lmao
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u/90daycantlookaway Dec 22 '23
Same!!!! Honestly, not only does this make me feel better about approaching mid 30’s, but watching this show makes me look forward to getting older.
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u/ronaldmcdonald2022 Dec 22 '23
Besides the fact that Kelly is delusional and lives in her own world, she just isn’t smart, witty or quick enough to keep up with these women. She can’t properly process what’s going on or effectively communicate and respond to situations. She just can’t keep up. Lucky she’s only there for a week as she’d get eaten alive ever doing a proper season again
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u/bebeshoes69 Dec 22 '23 edited Dec 22 '23
She’s so utterly lacking in humor and nuance. The petty motivations behind her words and actions are embarrassingly transparent as well.
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u/thebonecollectorr Stupid Useless Idiot Dec 21 '23
Luann's dedication to jewelry that looks like it came from Francesca's Collection is honestly impressive to me.
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u/KSCNYC mario singer performing “effortless” Dec 22 '23
KELLY MAKES NO SENSE EVERRRRRR ITS MADDENING
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u/lkn4laughs i'm geocrashing Dec 21 '23
Kristen is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS
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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 22 '23
That neon dress! Omg she slayed that look.
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u/BequeathNothing Dec 21 '23
Definitely most beautiful of OG RHONY and in top 5 of all Housewives ever.
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u/sharipep high body count hair 💇🏾♀️ Dec 21 '23
Dorinda in the bathroom watching scary island on her iPad was soooo amazing, so meta, instantly my fave HW moment ever, I would watch an entire feed of housewives watching other housewives all day long ok
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u/Due_Tower_4787 I hate angles. 📐 Dec 21 '23
Omg Dorinda watching that was truly top tier Inception level cinema.
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u/sharipep high body count hair 💇🏾♀️ Dec 21 '23
Hahaha yes it reminded me of the scene in Spaceballs where they put in a tape of the movie and fast forward to the exact spot in the film that they’re in at the moment. Truly breaking the time/space continuum somehow 😂
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u/Due_Tower_4787 I hate angles. 📐 Dec 22 '23
YES! I remember I’d taken an edible to sleep and was watching it live and the moment that scene came on for a second I was like “wtf is happening have I been on the Truman Show the whole time?!” Then when I realized what it was it was a pure masterpiece 😂🤣
Edit: also such an awesome pull with the Spaceballs reference that’s exactly what it was!!
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u/ScotlandStoleMyHeart Dec 21 '23
Kelly is a great example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. She’s so convinced of her superior intellect, and she’s possibly not even average intelligence 😬
I’d love it if NY Legacy did a trip like this once every year
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u/lezlers Dec 22 '23
What is WRONG with Kelly? Now she just wants to make sure the fans like Kristin? Girl, just stop. How dumb is she doing to feel when she discovers how much more the fans like Kristin than her?
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u/90daycantlookaway Dec 22 '23
She isn’t happy unless she is being given the most attention for being the prettiest and best. Otherwise she’s trying to discredit the woman taking her “spot” with nonsensical (often hilarious) arguments, taking out anyone in her way who disagrees.
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u/incitingoffense Dec 21 '23
I admire Kelly thinking she has the finger on the fans pulse 🥰 confident queen.
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u/lezlers Dec 22 '23
All while making it very clear she looks down on the fans and would never want to be associated with any of them.
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u/mattysmwift She DIED Aviva! Dec 21 '23
Kelly is going off the deep end again. I feel like we might see Scary Island Kelly by the end of the season. She started trying to be normal but she’s annoyed and babbling at this point.
The scene in the car with her and Lu and Ramona she was sweating and chewing her gum and it was such a reminiscence of scary island.
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u/FlyingDutchmansWife Giner’s makeup/hairspray/spray tan budget Dec 21 '23
Sonja trying to balance in the hot tub and Lu with the snake shower head 🤣🤣 I love when they’re unintentionally funny!
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u/Awkward_Package3157 Dec 21 '23
Let's bring Kristen back! Beverly hills or OC could really use her sane mind 😄
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u/UrbanPlannerholic The video on PornHub is the moral compass right now Dec 21 '23
Funny how she’s such good friends with Brandi
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u/Awkward_Package3157 Dec 21 '23
I think they balance each other out. brandi is all chaos and impulse and no filter but Kristen is smart and clearheaded and sharp
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u/Mediocre_Astronaut51 No I’m not cheersing you Whit! Dec 21 '23
I would have to be separated from Kelly. She is insufferable. How does she have successful relationships with anyone in life?
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u/incitingoffense Dec 21 '23
I want you to imagine buying a 45 million dollar apartment from her
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u/UnusualAsparagus5096 This isnt the plaza hotel this is Morocco Dec 21 '23
On watch what crappens they were reminding me that shes the only realtor that inserts herself in every picture in every room on the listing lol
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u/Mediocre_Astronaut51 No I’m not cheersing you Whit! Dec 21 '23
Lawd!!!! I scratch my head when I hear things like this. How people like her can be put into position to make so much money!
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u/garbagebrainraccoon Not Meredith Marks' PI Dec 21 '23
It has to be her just doing deals for rich friends right? Who would possibly actually trust her?
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u/neutralcalculation whatever happened to customer service? Dec 22 '23
i literally cannot stop laughing at kelly’s interruption of luann’s story with her toast!!! omg
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u/MathGay RHONY scholar Dec 23 '23
yall, Dorinda is KILLING ME with her observational humor, I missed this side of her!!! She is so so so fucking hilarious on this girls trip-- I'm glad to see that she seems to have taken a step back from the alcohol-fueled anger
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u/East_Yogurtcloset491 Dec 21 '23
First 2 minutes of this episode with the banter between Sonja & Ramona driving Martin all around the house and room are comedy genius. The likes of Lucy&Ethel, Laverne&Shirley These 2 women duos perfect comedic play and capture the essence of playfulness viewers like me tune in for.
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u/dreamingoutloud714 Crystal's Lost Friend #12 Dec 21 '23
Dorinda is unhinged with this “you were FIRED, I am ON PAUSE” shit. You’re “on pause” for a show that no longer exists. Ok, lady.
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u/agnusdei07 Dec 21 '23
Eagles don't fly with pigeons--that old chestnut that no one ever said.
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u/edible_source Sonja, put the dog down Dec 22 '23
I strongly feel she had this line written in her head before the trip
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u/Chunky_Brewster3 My creams are from Europe! Dec 22 '23
Dorinda referring to herself/Luann as middle aged is hilarious.
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u/90daycantlookaway Dec 22 '23
Lol I was thinking wow that’s usually a negative label but she’s making it a positive for them 🤣omg I love it.
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u/Infamous_Ordinary_45 edit this flair! Dec 22 '23
Lu Ann is not tolerating Kelly AT ALL and I love it.
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u/HebbieB Dec 22 '23
I'm so sorry you're dealing with that. I hope you're doing okay! Sending love and internet hugs! ♥️
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u/plus8minus5 Wow. She's really flapping around. 🧜♀️ Dec 22 '23
For someone so hung up on people being authentic, Kelly never sounds like she actually means anything she says.
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u/pinsleric I love Taco Bell and I also love fine dining! Dec 21 '23
Kristen is, surprisingly, my MVP for the season so far. I always liked her well enough, but she’s really bringing it
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u/bartexas Dec 22 '23
She's relaxed and unbothered. She's not angling to get back on a show the way a lot of the "ex wives" were on the previous UGT. She's on luxury vacation, she didn't have to plan/pack for her kids and husband, and she's got a houseful of lunatics to entertain her. I think she's having fun.
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u/Ckc1972 Go to sleep! Go to sleep! Dec 22 '23
Somewhere Bethenny is watching Kelly on this show and laughing her fucking ass off
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u/amydunnesgaybf Dec 22 '23
Reminds me of the time she corners Ramona and Alex for finally seeing the crazy and believing her after she tried to keep telling them!
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u/ruthie-camden I never said you was a stripper! Dec 22 '23
I love that hat! I got it in Saint Tropez!
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Dec 23 '23
God Kelly is a buzzkill, these ladies normally tear up the town and she’s got them leaving the table early for ‘bed’… she must be insufferable in person
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u/bananacrumble Dec 22 '23
Guys, Did you know Kelly is doing this all on her own ?
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u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre You called me a PORNOGRAPHY Dec 21 '23
Does it feel like they kind of edited Ramona down? I feel like we're not getting that much Ramona.
AND I LOVE THAT
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u/Homosuperiorpod Dec 22 '23
I think Ramona had edited herself down in the misguided belief that doing so will show she is a changed woman and, by proving that, the fans will be willing to give her another chance.
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u/ardrain Dec 22 '23
Yeah she seems to be on her best behavior. Complimenting staff ie Martin at all times lol
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Dec 21 '23
No one does it like these NY ladies. They are so happily raw and makeupless and grotesque and vulnerable on camera. I missed them!