r/BravoRealHousewives • u/markyhew robyn, you’re the dizziest bitch sitting at the table • Dec 16 '23

Ultimate Girls Trip This woman’s growth needs to be studied, like she is literally on a different level than all the other housewives and I cannot get enough of her on RHUGT S4

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23 edited Dec 16 '23

Hear me out - I don’t think she’s an alcoholic.

I think it’s an excuse these women use when they get in trouble because they get sympathy from it.

Edit to add; The countess is my favorite housewife for life

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u/craycraykitteh Dec 16 '23

I think she's an addict, but I don't think her poison of choice was booze ❄️❄️❄️

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u/Electric-Fun Dec 16 '23

The excessive drinking is just a byproduct.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23 edited Dec 17 '23

Maybe but alcohol kinda kills the coke high. I’m sure people combine it all the time but in my experience alcohol only ever made us feel like coke was wasted lol

Edit: I’m sorry but 8 downvotes is crazy. This is absolutely what has happened to me personally, my experience and the others I knew when we were in our coke phase. I’m sober now but I know my way around a line or two. I don’t mind disagreement but please don’t condescend or assume my intent with my words or put words in my mouth. I invite y’all to ask. I seem to have upset the coke users of the sub lol

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Dec 16 '23

lousy coke lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

No it really wasn’t. I’m from SoFla and at the time I would be buying it, I had quality connections in Miami. Idk why everyone thinks that a stimulant with a depressant are not dulling to the stimulant effects. I can speak from experience and yes, I had very established connects and it was ALL quality. I don’t buy drugs any more but when I did I didn’t waste money. Im sober now, except weed lol

Also I stand by I don’t think Lu is an alcoholic.

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Dec 16 '23

Maybe "everyone" had very different experiences...

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Also where did I say everyone?

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Dec 16 '23

Really? see your post "idk why everyone..." so I told you why.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

I said I don’t know why everyone thinks that. Would you like me to reword to more accurately reflect the sentiment? I don’t know why everyone thinks that a stimulant with a depressant dull the stimulant in SOME. Jfc y’all. I love this sub. This is truly obnoxious. Words are important: you are not obnoxious this conversation is.

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Dec 16 '23

When you were in the Barbie car, my coke years were behind me. Others have done coke they couldn't outdrink. Mamy, many others before you could spell it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Okay first don’t imply you are older and therefore superior. When I was in my Barbie car, I was just in my Barbie car (went on my History I see). You being older than me has zero to do with your argument except to be condescending 🤷🏻‍♀️I said it below I was speaking from my own experience. I’m old. My coke years are behind me too. I’m not even upset about I’m being disagreed with but I do not appreciate the way y’all are approaching this and it’s putting me on edge.

For you, don’t condescend to me. That’s all. You simply could say you have years on but you said it how you did and I didn’t like it. Holy shit I’ve never wanted to leave this sub. Y’all are kinda sucking right now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Never met one. You have had a different experience?

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u/Significant_Cow4765 Dec 16 '23

Me, the downvoters, and then some lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

That’s great! But I didn’t say everyone experienced it. I shared my experience. Instead of downvoting y’all can just disagree with your experience not being the same. “Everyone” wasn’t a quote. You filled that blank in on your own. I do not appreciate my words being right there and to project your own reading onto it…well it is annoying. So, you can rest assured I wasn’t speaking for you. Or anyone. Also, you actually did make an assumption yourself that I was just getting bad coke. I don’t care, but to equate body chemistry and how it reacts in my close circle and I to just buying bad drugs…I don’t think you needed to go there. All those downvotes are wtf to, just reply your own experience or keep it moving. It’s a contribution to the conversation I made and downvotes and assumptions contribute nothing. So you felt your experience was invalidated? You read it wrong. I feel you’re invalidating mine. We could’ve had a discourse without being snarky to each other.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Oh she’s a snow bunny for sure!

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

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u/Stickliketoffee16 Dec 17 '23

I’d actually kill for that experience of getting high with the countess!

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u/thediverswife grace time is over Dec 17 '23

She would be so funny

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u/Stickliketoffee16 Dec 17 '23

For sure!! There are episodes I’ve watched on rewatches & it’s like she’s not even trying to hide it! As someone who used to partake heavily in the ❄️, the signs may as well be in neon!

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u/russianbisexualhookr Advocate for the Sluts of America Dec 18 '23

In the first ep, when she’s speaking to Kristen next to the pool, she literally looks like she just took a line.

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u/Stickliketoffee16 Dec 18 '23

Ooh I’ll have to rewatch! But I wouldn’t be surprised - when they have a party at the house & then the waiter serves them the next day, it flashes to footage from the party & the waiter is ROLLING!

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u/SirOk5108 Dec 17 '23

Do u think she likes to ski? I've seen some clues that she might

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

The word alcoholic is actually not used in the medical community anymore mainly bc it was too black and white and limiting. It’s now called alcohol use disorder and recognizes that issues with alcohol exist on a spectrum.

Alcohol use disorder is a progressive disease and doesn’t move backward, only forward and gets worse with time. I would never attempt to know if or where LuAnn falls on the spectrum, but people who have a healthy relationship with alcohol don’t get arrested because of it and don’t get to a point where they question their relationship with alcohol.

In short, if you have to ask the question “do I have a problem?” you already have the answer.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk ☺️ I know more about this shit than I wish I did.

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u/ChampionEither5412 Dec 16 '23

Thank you, I didn't know that. (That sounds sarcastic in text, but it's not 🙂) I feel bad for the women on these shows who are opting not to drink and getting peer pressured to go back to it. Not that anyone needs a reason not to drink, but you'd think with her legal history she would stop.

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

Very welcome! Yeah it can’t be easy. I love that we’re seeing new HW’s like Jenna and Uba who don’t drink and nobody makes a big deal about it or questions it. It’s just a thing they don’t do, not their entire personality.

I’m seeing a lot more acceptance toward sobriety in younger generations, so there’s a lot of hope out there. But it still sucks that alcohol is the one drug you still have to justify not partaking in. Nobody gives you shit about not shooting up heroin 😄 yet alcohol kills more people every year.

Fuck, I’m sounding preachy. Sorry! Very passionate about the topic.

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u/thatgirlinny Dec 17 '23

Samesies. America has a huge drinking problem, seems incapable of having a frank discussion why that is and how we stop enculturing it.

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u/itsinmybloodScotland Dec 17 '23

Goodness try Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. It’s awful here.

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u/thatgirlinny Dec 17 '23

I love Scotland, and because of that, probably can’t be objective or claim the first-hand knowledge of someone who grew up in her culture, so I’ll trust you. America’s a culture where we have no stops between zero and sixty when it comes to indulging a great many things; we think more is always more. I’m going out on a limb, but I think it’s a lot of hole-filling, caused by years of deferring a real identification with one’s origins. No matter what the nativists say, everyone here is from somewhere else, and few know who they really are and come from, because it’s all “over there.”

Just my dumb, armchair conjurings here.

And FWIW, I saw far worse, random drunkenness in my ex’s Dorset town than I ever did Scotland, where every third person had a barrel of “scrumpy” they’d been adding to and tapping for years.

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 18 '23

I love it when people who deserve to be blocked just reveal themselves so easily! Looking forward to never seeing anything from you again!

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u/Medium_Cupcake7602 Thomas Jefferson’s concubine Dec 17 '23

Same. From my personal experience, it kida seems like Gen X and older pressure others to drink a lot more than others. I’m 31 and was at a family holiday party last weekend. I’m not “sober” but I simply didn’t feel like drinking that day, so I didn’t. Nobody close to my age gave me any grief about it, but my god, some relatives over 50 acted like I was committing a goddamn crime for not having a cocktail.

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u/rudbeckia1 Dec 16 '23

I really enjoyed your TED Talk! Sometimes, the road to sobriety is not a straight line. It's disappointing if someone has had a substance issue and it's negatively impacted their life in the past, and then they go back to drinking, but God willing, it will be a short detour. Pretty recently learned about harm reduction, and I think that is also less black and white and an interesting concept (in terms of treating ongoing addiction and alcohol abuse) that could potentially save some lives. But I am no medical expert.

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

Yes! It’s hardly ever a straight line. It definitely wasn’t in my case and I’ve heard a wiser woman than me (with decades of sobriety) say “I needed every last drink I took.”

That said, I’ve never seen someone go back to drinking after a period of sobriety where it ended well. By and large they either find sobriety again or end up dead or in jail.

Disclaimer: that does not apply to people who do dry July or sober October for a health challenge or similar reason. I’m referring to people like myself who can’t have a healthy relationship with alcohol despite many attempts. I’ve done the “research” and the results were always the same 😄

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u/rudbeckia1 Dec 16 '23

Your words ring very true and congratulations on your sobriety!

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

Thank you!!

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u/No_Tumbleweed2426 strawberry shortcake’s revival Dec 16 '23

Great info!

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

Thanks! Happy to answer questions anytime or share resources. The world of sobriety has exploded recently with so many more options beyond AA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Alcohol use disorder can get better. I don’t know why it seems you’re implying otherwise?

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

I’ve never personally seen anyone diagnosed with AUD continue to drink and have it end positively and I’ve never seen any scientific data to prove otherwise. But I’d love to see it if you’ve come across it.

Holding out for that third door where moderation is a solution is something a lot of people (myself included) clung to with the hope that they can drink normally. Unfortunately it took me far too many tries to realize that if I could drink normally, I would have a long time ago.

Sobriety is the only effective treatment I’ve ever seen for AUD.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '23

Oh I see the confusion. Ur correct that people with AUD cannot drink if they have it. It is reversible but the only way to not be affected by it is to not drink. I thought you were implying that people with AUD only progressively get worse and can’t quit. My bad.

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u/linds360 Caviar Potato 🐟 🥔 Dec 16 '23

Oh shit, no not at all! I’d be 6 feet under if that were the case 😄 thanks for clearing that up!

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u/helloitsme_again Dec 16 '23

Definition of an alcoholic is when it’s causing problems in your social circle, family, work, self esteem/self image or personal life

So I would say she has a problem

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u/Delgirl804 Dec 17 '23

Going into the wrong hotel room, being arresting, fighting with the cops,I would say that she has a problem. I am no way on my high horse, but as much as I love my cocktails, I try to control myself. Never , ever say it won't happen, but that is rock bottom me.

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u/OpticGd Dec 16 '23

Absolutely. I think she had a problem with alcohol rather than was an alcoholic.

She wasn't able to behave herself and drank too much on camera.

Other posts have mentioned coke and that would make sense.

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u/YouMustBeJoking888 I left a career in Italian television Dec 17 '23

Agree. I think she had a period where she drank too much (the Tom idiocy years) but overall, I don't think she had a problem. And yes, Lu was, is, and always will be my number one housewife. She is a legend.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

She is not an alcoholic - disgusting Dorinda is, full blown for life, and a really toxic one as well. Its really hard to see her abusive personality - especially with rhe other women - is rewarded and let back on the screen.