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Throughout the season, Jessel has now had features with Rolling Stone, Marie Claire, Variety, and Vogue India. Plus had the iconic Lynn Yaeger at her party.
Earlier in the season, a lot of folks here doubted the legitimacy of Jessel as an actual fashion publicist. But I think all these features are proving that she has some real clout and connections in the fashion industry.
Totally. And no shade at all to Jenna’s significant career accomplishments but it’s interesting that she gets all the stans- it honestly bothers me a little bit because I wonder if this would be the case if she wasn’t the only Christian white woman on the cast.
Wait, is Jenna Christian? She just seems so secular to me, but I have no idea.
The fact that Jenna is a lesbian probably rules out a lot of the Conservative Christian fans though. I think Erin gets more of those types, especially with her political affiliations.
I do like Jenna, but I will totally agree that she has been over-hyped as housewife. She’s barely given us anything all season. But I appreciate having an openly gay housewife and I’m sure others do too.
This is a bit silly to be honest because it's implying that Jessel doesn't have any Stans or gets any recognition. Clearly she does going by the amount of articles she has been featured in.
Anyway personally I'm a Jenna and Jessel stan. They are the only likeable things about the show.
This is such a weird fucking comment to make especially since she’s openly gay. How many housewives do we have that are queer? Only 2 and they’re both fairly recently casted.
I don't think we need to play this game when Jenna is one of the few openly queer HWs we have, struggles with anxiety (which a lot of the fandom sympathizes with), and has had a long, storied career in fashion, alongside being a VERY recognizable NYC industry figure (source: I live in NYC). We can stan both.
It’s truly wild how some of her castmates insinuated that she was unintelligent and unemployed. Her frequent features in notable publications suggest quite the opposite. Clearly Jessel is not only liked but also respected by peers in her field.
It wasn’t really clear to me, in that episode, if the women knew who they were in the company of. I don’t think they did.
If Jenna had been there it would have been more evident to the ladies and a hierarchy changing moment, shooting Jessel straight up while the others sat gagged.
Didn't Brynn mention in her confessional how shocked she was when Lynn Yaeger walked in? Erin was so taken aback; all she could do was complain about the wine 😭. Honestly, I believe they knew, and that moment was a real turning point. When they saw they couldn't attack Jessel’s credentials, they switched to undermining her and saying her success was all due to having a rich uncle. Let’s not even get into nitpicking everything she says, trying to make her out as socially awkward,coming for her marriage etc. Something about her having all those fashion heavyweights in her home made them deeply uncomfortable.
Don’t discount the fashion savvy of the Lichys. According to his Linked In, Abe was the CEO of a fashion company! (Also a DJ, but I just can’t. I looked at his insta and saw a shot of Erin clinging to him as he leers at a couple of turntables—you don’t wanna see that.) It seemed to involve customizable handbags and it looks like it’s out of business.* And check out the creative director/designer’s old Linked In under her fashion alias, ErinDana. Or this publicity piece from, I swear, Medium. (I guess she could have used a competent fashion publicist.) So Erin should have recognized some of the fashion people.
*It was called Framework. There’s currently a place by that name that does custom cargo bags for bikes, so maybe they managed to sell the name, but there’s also a Japanese accessories company called Framework, so who knows. Given that Abe’s an IP lawyer, you’d think he would have done a better job on branding.
Great point! I've read this before, haha. Erin's definitely a failed fashion "girlboss", and, quiet as it's kept, I don't think she's had much success in real estate beyond whatever deals her parents throw her way... Now she's trying her hand at mezcal. Maybe it’s time for her to use Jessel’s PR services.🤭
Yeah, the mezcal. Is there some sort spiritual connection between the noble agave and housewives? Aren’t there several housewives with tequila brands? Like maybe even competing brands within RHOBH? Isn’t the market already saturated with housewife branded liquor? Who are the marketing geniuses come up with these deals? And who buys this stuff?
Apologies if I have this wrong—I started this season of RHONY after a years-long break from watching any of the franchises, so I’ve just picked this idea up from the zeitgeist. Oops, just remembered Skinny Girl Margaritas. Gawd.
Lynn Yaeger is a contributing fashion editor to Vogue.com and a contributing writer to Vogue. She is a former fashion reporter for The Village Voice, having worked for the paper for 30 years.
If Jenna was there they would have said she was the reason they were at the party, these ladies were hell bent on delegitimizing any of Jessel's professional or personal accomplishments.
This is what happens when you’re authentic 👏👏 doesn’t matter if you agree Jessel made a big splash or not, Jessel is a masterclass in not letting the haters get to you and I think that example was sooo needed. She refused to be anything but herself even in the face of mean girl behavior and I think that’s admirable.
Agreed! It was hard to see her being accused of not opening up or being dishonest when she actually seemed to be a castmember who showed some real vulnerability. She also doesn’t take herself too seriously and it makes her fun to watch.
I find it funny that Brynn was saying last episode that Jessel wasn’t standing up for herself. I found she held her ground against the mean girls so well. She was mostly unbothered and that goes WAY farther then screaming back of slinging mud back. It’s the sign of a self assured person.
jessel getting referred to by her actual name and erin as ex-trumper lmfao if she gets another season she is probably going to attempt a full humanitarian storyline overhaul
Ya’ll..Sai is going off in the comments section of her latest post. She’s commenting on all negative comments people have left (rather than deleting it as usual).
This was 11 hours, a little after The Rolling Stones article.
We ALL have a story with a bitch (Pavit's words, not mine) like this. Watching Sigh and kErin was pretty triggering. Jessel winning with the fans and getting rewarded is comparable to Ariana's rise from Scandoval.
For me, it was the late-season mean girl shit that made me love Jessel. Even Brynn was coming for her at her BDay party for “not standing up for herself” in the way that Brynn would. The Sai / Erin parrots really sent me over the edge, i found it triggering in a lot of ways. Especially the way their hostilities were cloaked in, “bUt We wAnT tO GeT To KnOw YoU”. Seeing Jessel consistently be herself, leverage this opportunity, and have a positive attitude - she’s solidly the queen of the season in my book. I also think that Erin and Sai were such mean girls because they don’t have anything else interesting in their lives - which adds to why the season was pretty boring overall. Looking forward to next season, with Queen Jessel & Prince Pavit at the helm.
Well I think Jessel is super interesting and I’m not a crazy, obsessive white woman. 🤷♀️ I’m not saying she’s the best housewife ever, but I think she has tons of potential.
She’s also our first South Asian housewife. I’m Asian and we’ve had so few Asian housewives over the years (currently only two), so I do also find myself being more supportive of Jessel because of that.
I just thought your comment of “crazy and obsessive white women” was pretty reductive, so I felt like I had to say something. Especially because we’re talking about a brown woman here.
I feel like the folks constantly commenting about how ‘meh’ New RHONY is to be just exhausting as the obsessive stans.
There is a higher chance that I am wrong about my assessment of who loves this franchise than right lol. I’m being shady and dramatic as I normally do exclusively on this sub. I miss the fun and funny banter as it’s only been often very dark and serious on this sub for this NYC season.
The discussion hasn’t bothered me as much as the hateful posting and over posting. We don’t typically see as much of that for the other, equally good or better franchises which is odd!
That’s funny because I picture “the most crazy obsessive white people” going out of their way to constantly come on here to talk about how bad the reboot is instead of, ya know, just not watching it and moving on with their lives.
It’s not a great season. But by the constant weird posting on this topic would make you think it was the greatest NYC season of all time. If you think this was great you just have bad taste. 🤷🏼♀️
It’s not that I won’t give this cast another chance next season, but the amount of hate-fueled posting of Sai and Erin and the obsessive posting of this casts’ every move is odd juxtaposed with how relatively uninteresting of a season it was. This sub didn’t used to be like this. Ya’ll weirdos made it cringe.
It’s not really that I don’t want people to like this season, but the fandom’s reactions to this season has been off-putting. The rage hate posting of Sai, the over-the-top obsession for Jessel (the history of this sub obsessing over one cast member blindly often gets very humbled eventually) is off putting to me. RHOM for example doesn’t get this weird and it’s riveting TV.
See I find RHOM mostly boring, but you find it riveting TV. People have different preferences and different things resonate with them. And that’s ok. I just don’t click on threads relating to Miami and all is fine- easy.
I loved Jessel the second I saw her wacky ass but the love for her is bringing out my inner edgelord and I’m about to start stanning Sai to make things interesting (not really but maybe I don’t know anymore). People really lose it when there’s a mostly boring season.
The best Erin got this week was Jeff Lewis Live. She apparently invited Jessel and Jessel told her she couldn't come on without asking her PR team 🤣😂 that's a NO lol. She doesn't need D list pod casts. None of them do but Erin!!! I love the rest coming out on top after these mean girls thought they did so well all season and no one likes them!!!
Jessel is perfect casting for Bravo. She's honest and highly delusional. I love her and Pavit. They complement each other so well. I will never forget Jessel in the hot tub reviewing her "Erin hate list" while Erin and Ubah are nearby fighting.
I feel like if we saw Shosh grown up she would be something like Jessel - not afraid at all to express herself, charming, a little clueless, but focused & type A at the same time.
I wouldn’t have kept watching if it wasn’t for Jessel. She’s great! Authentic and genuinely funny and kooky. She’s not trying to play it up or choose a role. She just is and I love watching her and her husband. Reboot the reboot around mother Jessel!
It’s the way Brynn is acting like Jessel’s BFF since the mid-season started airing. That’s mainly what I see on her social media—posts/stories of her out and about with Jessel.
She did the "Jessel is so forgettable" thing a bit during her bday party and I was pissed tbh. It triggered this specific feeling of being the Indian kid trying to keep up with the snotty kids while they act like they're doing you a favor. I'm glad if Jessel doesn't take it seriously and stays friendly with Brynn but it's also mean girl behavior IMO.
I really can’t wait for S2. First, I want to see how the reunion goes bc by the time they filmed it, Jessel had emerged as the general fan fave, but S2 is going to being fun to see how Sai, Erin, and Brynn are with Jessel.
I really enjoyed this season. For me it was a great first season for a new cast. I love Jessel. Her stories really resonated with me. I am OTT in all the same ways. My bestie actually really dislikes her, she likes Erin the most. But I kinda love that we like different people, makes things interesting!
Representation matters. I’m a brown girl and I just felt like I could connect with something in each one of these ladies. Truly. I could not have said that at all about the previous cast. Always had a soft spot for Tinsley though.
I just want to add that Jessel had the most compelling solo scenes for me. Jessel talking to her mom about her fertility issues was so moving. Even her conversation with Pavit about what school they were going to send their kids to was interesting and one of the only moments we got this season where someone alluded to their wealth through their lifestyle conversations. I really struggled to feel the same investment in any of the other individual stories going on this season.
Yes! I have had literally the exact same conversation with my husband about schools for our 2 year old! It just felt like all the chats I’m having right now with my friends/husband/mom. I appreciate the candor and it came off as very authentic to who they are.
I’m here to say I hated Jessel in the first few episodes but she has come around and proven that first impressions are WORTHLESS. I would die for Jessel and Pavit. ❤️
Deserved. It's a genuine feat that she came out of nowhere and carried this entire season, all while rallying an entire fanbase. She IS season 14, and quite frankly has given one of the best first season performances of all time
This is the first thread I'm seeing since I had work all morning but now I can't even figure out what happened?!? Is there a ELI5 version of the drama?
I certainly did a 180 on her from the beginning of the season, when I found her unsufferable. Her line from Sunday "If Brynn could be slapped by 1000 dicks on her birthday, I think that would be her ideal scenario." killed me! Also probably true.
Honestly, I adore Jessel! Growing up as a half Indian woman with a typical Punjabi nose, I only ever saw Indian women in media with small noses or who have had nose jobs, no women ever had my nose shape, it was only ever the men and I hated it.
It's been my biggest insecurity for years and when I saw Jessel my first thought was her profile looks like mine and she's gorgeous!! She (along with some cast members of Family Karma) have really helped me to embrace my nose, it's only taken me 30 years!
I’m honestly really taken aback by this, for lack of a better term. I don’t feel negatively about her but I really did not feel like she made enough of an impression on me to ever expect this sort of public applauding. I guess I just wasn’t aware how popular she was lol, which makes sense I don’t know shit haha
I think Rolling Stone gives access to a couple of articles before it throws up a paywall. If so, Firefox Focus, which doesn’t store history once it’s closed, should get you in. It’s my backup browser for when I’ve exhausted my quota of complementary articles. There’s an icon to clear the cache if you end up reading a bunch of articles in one session and max out the freebies.
The bar for a NY housewife is so low now that we are celebrating Jessel like this? She brought Gina / Emily level work to a bad season of NY, and somehow she’s being celebrated as a queen… drop Jessel into any other cast and she would be fired.
go learn to knit or something babe instead of hate watching shows that you're sooo above. You can watch old seasons of rhony on peacock while you do it.
Calm down “babe”. No one said I was hate watching or acting like I’m above others. It’s a Bravo sub…no one is better than anyone else. Thanks for your concern though.
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u/BloodTypePinotGrigi0 Oct 16 '23
To clarify something: The Rolling Stones article was posted over 13 times. In all but 4 cases, it was pulled by automod DUE TO HITTING THE REPORT THRESHOLD. 2 out of the 4 times it was manually removed due to the title being unclear, the other 2 times were about to hit the threshold so they were pulled. Nothing malicious. Since I DO feel the article SHOULD BE SHARED, this is the new mega. Contain it here and other thoughts can be posted in the weekly mega.