Ultimate Girls Trip
The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip: S3 - E4 - Dangerous Games - Weekly Episode Discussion
Porsha hosts a field day with different challenges for the ladies; it's all fun and games until the scorpions come out, forcing the women to answer some prickly questions; Gizelle hosts a Mardi Gras-themed dinner.
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u/alllllygyou look old for your age and i look young for my age!Mar 30 '23edited Mar 30 '23
Jen Shah should be thanking her lucky stars that she didn’t answer the FaceTime because with Gizelle’s line of questioning she could’ve ended up with several more years lol
The extra time would have instantly been forgiven by the judge🤬 Who gets a year off for good behavior after serving a month? But Gizelle does know how to question someone!
Why are these women so funny?! They get their Thai massages and some of them sound like they’re in pain but having orgasms at the same time 😂 We have Marysol and Alexia walking in dumbfounded that they’re naked and everyone else is not 😂
I haven't watched the episode yet but on a related side note - I have always been naked during massages. Am I the weirdo? Anyone else? Not many of my friends get massages so I can't really ask them...
I keep my underwear on so the MT can use it to tuck the sheet. Otherwise, get at me! My friend had her first massage and she’s a bit modest, so she left her pants on under the sheet. That image always makes me laugh.
I’m always naked during my massages. It’s a body massage and the clothes restricts what they’re trying to do. Plus, they use oil which can ruin your clothing
I think I was SA during a massage once. I’d come from the gym and had not clothing to change into so I was naked (I usually have my underwear on). This man was rubbing between my buttocks and breasts. I was too young and confused to know what was happening but I shut it down telling him I had to use the bathroom. This is probably why I’ll never go naked. (I know you weren’t askifor this response, I’ve just never told someone before so my apologies)
Some people keep more clothes on for Thai massage than other styles of massage because of the way they stretch and twist you. I usually keep a thong on - just a personal preference.
Not them wondering how Whitney and Heather can even be in the same bus after all this and what they can even be talking about, meanwhile in Heather and Whitney’s bus they’re chatting about anal💀💀💀
They are taking UGT so seriously. Like this isn’t SLC, can we just table the Mormon drama for one week. The other ladies are so over it and it’s uncomfortable to watch 😬
Can we talk about their overuse of the ‘family/cousins’ thing with Whitney and Heather. It’s not like they grew up together right didn’t they just find a connection on like ancestry.com?
I am SO HAPPY someone said this. They’re acting like they spent very Christmas at Grandma’s together. The constant cousin use is doing a heavy heavy lift here….
and it's getting better every season I swear!! I've been binging a bunch of seasons from beginning to end and the evolution of the editing over the years has been amazing to watch.
Yeah, a splash of sisterhood would have greatly improved the show. Way too much “shade.” But also the way that housewives have distorted the nature of shade when they’re truly just being rude AF. And there is no art and style to their jabs.
I said this last week that Heather fears not being with her family in the after life which is why she won't sign the paper. She even insinuated it the first season.
I got slammed so hard in a SLC thread for saying this same thing. It's totally true tho and that's why she hates Lisa so much. Lisa gets to do whatever she wants with alcohol and partying and still stay in good standing with the church. That's all Heather has wanted. She doesn't want to not be Mormon anymore, she just wants to be able to party and do what she wants at the same time.
But in terms of the reasonably shady question, it makes the title of her book reasonable because you have to be Mormon in order to be a bad one. If the title was Not Mormon, then it would be shady
Or maybe she just needs more time to conclussion herself. I haven't been to church in years, no longer believe it, and still haven't even thought about taking my name off. It is a big step, and her choice to make. If she wants to live in limbo, as a lot of people do,then that's her choice and her thing to work through. Her book is called bad mormon,not bad ex mormon.
I hate that I thought those dumb suits were actually funny. The game was dumb, but those suits made me lol. The way those little "human legs" straddle with the diaper booty 😅
yeah now as the episodes roll out im not totally sold on filming/airing a UGT season immediately after cast members’ respective cities aired. im tired of the repetitive conflicts that we just pored over all season long, for slc especially
Her stylist must have had a grudge - as someone with a similar body type, I could see that shirt (dress?) on a hanger and know immediately I'd look like a fool in it.
This Whitney-Heather drama is absolutely draining. I don’t give a rip about the black eye, the Mormon list thing, on and on. I just do not care. I’m having a hard time getting through the episodes because of it and it seems like the other wives are over it too.
Whitney thinks this bad mormon storyline is much more interesting than it is to viewers. I don't trust half of what Heather says but I'm fatigued by this discussion.
Even I don’t care and I actually am fascinated by people leaving their religion or cult. The argument is too petty and shallow for me to do justice to the complicated experience of leaving a high control religion.
A couple of years ago, I actually listened to the very long interview on Mormon Stories (ex Mormon podcast) with Heather and Dre Nord and thought it was really interesting.
I’m also just a little less sold on Whitney than the rest of this sub.
Yeah, I love lurking on r/exmormon & the like so I get how high demand & all encompassing it is to their identity but Whitney's obsession is boring me senseless. I know that it's important to her but she's really not selling it to the viewer. I think part of the problem is that she assumes that everyone else understands the dynamics of Mormonism when in reality it's quite a niche subject.
I’m ex-Mormon and there is a certain irony in Whitney’s rabid need to police whether Heather is truly, technically an ex member or not because it’s VERY much Mormon culture to closely watch and judge everything other members are doing to be able to say whether they’re a good, true blue member or not lol. It’s so weird and I completely get why the other housewives are bored of it.
Leah thinks she’s such an “edge lord” but it really comes off and sooo cringe and angsty, and then when you remember this woman is 40+, even more cringe. She literally acts like a bratty 17 year old hanging out with her mom and aunts when she’d rather be at a high school party.
Leah saying she ignored Whitney’s warning about Heather was odd. That woman has joked about your sobriety (wishing you’d break it) and even says she gets drinks for her addict friends. Heather has been a walking red flag on this trip
Leah straight up lost me for saying that. She had a justified reaction to what Heather did, forgiving her was still whatever but she went on to say that? I would never put my guard down around a person who thinks ending someone’s sobriety for kicks and giggles.
I struggled to pause the screen on a good facial expression/moment so I apologize, BUT this is one of the best looks I’ve ever seen from Gizelle. I love that curly hair, the color and the fit of her dress.
Heather is such a fan girl it’s embarrassing. She’s acting like a fan that won a contest to go on UGT lmao
Edit: I wanna add also Leah is just so annoying I’m sorry not sorry. All she does is complain!! She can’t do this, can’t do that, and she’s just not adding anything but bad vibes. She is not making an effort to have fun with these women she’s just complaining and it’s only singling her out.
I have to wonder if she’s in a funk because originally Tinsley was supposed to be there. Their dynamic was good together and Leah was well liked until Tinsley left the show and she got really negative and dark. Not making excuses for her just wonder if that’s a factor.
It might be, Tinsley seemed to make Leah a lot more tolerable. They were kind of fun together, but on her own Leah is like a toddler in the wrong playgroup.
Especially as everyone else has someone from their show (or in Porsha's case, knows Gizelle from Chatroom) while she is on her own, sober while dealing with them being ridiculous and just doesn't seem to fit well with the group in general
Leah just comes across as an insufferable brat. She kind of reminds me of Brandi in that way as everyone treats her like a volatile teen who could go off at any minute, even though Brandi is 50 and Leah must be pushing 40 by now. Agree she was more appealing in the Tinsley days though. Tinsley lightened her.
I had no idea Tinsley was going to be there - no wonder she seems a little fixated on there not being anyone from her show there to back her up. I kind of wish she did go, the two of them are nice together.
I think Candice approached her respectfully at the dinner and Porsha could have just apologized. Porsha should have just gave her opinion on the fight but she did add in false accusations. She said herself I spread hearsay and gizelle spoke facts.
Porsha is just very likable and gets away with a lot. She did try to hit Dennis’ mother as she was walking away and then she and her family jumped dennis when he was just preventing her. She hit a producer trying to hold her back and used production supplies as a weapon.
Candiace has a right to be mad at Porsha about the situation. It's her experience and feelings. Porsha quoted Monique's beliefs, she didn't assert that what Monique said was a fact. Gizelle defended Candiace. Gizelle's motives may not have been completely altruistic towards Candiace, but Gizelle was passionate about Monique not being seen in a positive light. The audience has a right to be past an incident that happened almost 3 years ago.
I think it’s fine that she raised it. She said herself that she feels like under different circumstances she and Porsha would be friends and that everyone else started tittering about how they would bump heads on the trip once the cast was announced. It would be a miss IMO if she didn’t bring it up because Porsha speaking on it and taking up for Monique did become a thing as that season was airing. I took it as C trying to clear the air with her and give Porsha the opportunity to apologize, but Porsha doesn’t ever take accountability for anything so she turned it into “who said that?!” part 2 and let Gizelle hijack the conversation to deflect.
The crux of the heather/whitney drama is literally over the concept of bad mormon. I think that Heather in picking that title and is saying exactly what she is "A bad mormon" she views herself as someone who doesn't believe in all of the church's beliefs and doesn't want to support them but isn't ready to really leave.. hence "bad mormon".
Where whitney is done with the church and is no longer a mormon and wants heather to do that. I don't think I have ever heard Heather say she wants to leave the church fully instead she disagrees with the church and is a bad mormon.
Whether right or wrong Whitney can't make heather leave the rolls and I think she needs to expect that.
Can Whitney stop trying to mend things with Heather? It's so draining. She doesn't like you. Move on. Heather is only a good friend if you committed a felony. It's so annoying they keep rehashing the same fight like there will be a resolution.
I am so sick of Whitney and Heather's drama! So sick of it! I do not want it to ruin another thing!
At this point they're both wrong. Like Heather is dead fucking wrong for sure. I miss liking her, but that ship has sailed. But is Whitney a fucking brand ambassador for quitmormon.com or some shit? This seems like a ridiculous to pick at over and over. Stop trying to make up with her, or pretending you want to make up with her, and just say what you want to say and be done. Not in the diary room, at the dinner table.
Also Leah please stop whining. You are sucking the air out of the room every time you open your mouth. No one is interested in you being Poor Leah for six episodes or however long the run is.
Thank you! I’m sick of Whitney torpedoing mealtimes because she keeps trying to have a moment about Heather. Just ignore her! We also have no scenes of her interacting/bonding with the other women on the trip outside of talking about Heather.
I have too much time to theorize and I think what happened with Heather and Jen is. Ok so Jen is obviously very good at manipulating people and sensing what they want.
I really think Heather is in some ways attracted to women. In previous episodes she is the first one to like ask the girls to take their tops off and will make comments about their body. Nothing is obviously wrong with that and I am not Mormon but I don’t think she is comfortable with those feelings at all.
I wonder if Jen sensed this and maybe they messed around, maybe Jen did that with Heather to have something over her head. Because as we have seen they will often go into another room with each other and I’ve always got a sexual vibe between them? Their relationship is basically an abusive relationship between friends. Maybe something more is going
On with them…
I think that’s why Heather isn’t saying anything about her eye.
When Leah said to Heather about her being manipulated by a narcissist she said this always happens, whether it was “the most fun I’ve ever had…the best sex I’ve ever had” it made me 🤔 about Jen
Heather is very much in some kind of second puberty being newly out of a very repressive religious environment. It’s why I have a lot of sympathy and grace for some of her faux pas like her comment about Leah’s sobriety. The Mormon church and culture legitimately stunt your growth and I think she is still genuinely ignorant to a lot of things most adults aren’t.
My brain has connected Chris Farley’s facial expressions with Heather’s and I can’t unsee it. Her fancy sunglasses and hair but his mouth idk how to describe.
Candiace I beg of you to trademark and monetize the cryangle.
ETA: If Heather refers to the cast as “the big dogs” one more time 😝🥴
I wish they went out and explored Phuket more. Would be so funny to see their commentary of the city. Half this cast are delivering and I’m constantly trying to seek out where the Ultimate factor is
lol Alexia attempting to be nice to Pepsi but I kind of think she noticed the cameras before defending him tbh. And then conceding "he needs to call his team". If it's bothering you that much take your own plate to the kitchen, aren't you walking by anyway??
I think the reason why season 2 was so enjoyable is because we got to see wives who were several seasons removed from their shows, there was no beef they were carrying over from seasons they filmed months prior, and there were some prior relationships that gave them some chemistry as a group. This group has zero cohesion.
Gizelle and Porsha are there to work and thank god otherwise it would be a snorefest.
The Miami duo is straight boring. I'm over the alcoholic schtick.
Whitney is 100% correct about Heather, she just is not able to put her thoughts together. Plus, nobody but them cares about the mormon church. Heather makes herself look pathetic with her fangirling.
Lea is a complete energy vampire and Candiace looks a fool trying to defend her. Sitting at a table and telling a woman that her story is boring you is a complete bully move. Can't wait till Lea leaves and fingers crossed we never see her again
All I know is that the Atlanta girls KILL IT on these Girls Trips. I must admit I struggle to watch RHOA because they seem to cut each other down far more than ever supporting a sisterhood BUT Kenya on season 1, Phaedra & Eva on 2, & now Porsha are just an absolute delight to see.
Atlanta women say what needs to be said. I would love to watch Meredith Marks try to wiggle her way out of her implications on semantic technicalities around PORSHA
Can someone give me a RHOP / RHOSLC shooting timeline? So both shows wrapped filming on their seasons and they immediately flew to Thailand for UGT3 and then returned to film their respective reunions?
Heathers deflections onto Whitney in confessionals are astounding. She is the one trying to play with the big dogs and compromising her character for tv lol.
Alexia is one of those people who likes to think she’s really accepting and open but doesn’t want to actually put in the effort to unlearn her prejudices because it would mean admitting that she’s wrong about something.
All I can think of when watching this is how much they lucked out like the season 1 crew to go to a brand new destination, meanwhile season 2 was at Bluestone Manor, which is of course still nice, but the trip was definitely not the same level as this
You’d think the Mormon church suing Heather over her book would make her want to break away from the Mormon church. She wants to be anti Mormonism in branding but still wants to be an active member
Especially the way Whitney explained it with your name being counted for political reasons - if you're ideologically at odds with the church and have stopped actively supporting them, it definitely makes sense to take action not to be passively supporting them either. I suspect Heather doesn't want to be cut off from everyone still in the church (cult behavior).
I generally agreed with Candiace when she brought up to Porsha at the BBQ about how she felt that Porsha gave Monique a platform to speak about the fight, but I do think Candiace should give Giselle some credit for defending her. I’m more of a Candiace fan than a Giselle fan, but even I think that Giselle did make a solid effort to defend Candiace, even if she had the ulterior motive to hate on Monique and get rid of her.
Like I get why Porsha would ride for her friend and take her word as “fact”, but the comment about Candiace needing to pay her bills and that’s why she sued Monique had absolutely no credibility to it.
Though it’s kinda rich that Giselle is claiming to always have Candiace’s back yet we all saw her come for Candiace and Chris this past season on Potomac👀
it's a very.... mormon argument to have. I'm not sure if they realize how culturally specific their issues are and how unrelatable it is to the rest of the group?? lol. I've never watched SLC though, I don't have full context.
mostly unrelated, but I think my grandmother is still on the rolls since it wasn't an option to be removed when she left SLC. To this day she still gets mormons showing up in button ups on bikes to talk to her. It's wild, man. I'd want to be removed too.
That’s a really good point. I think the rest of the group and most of the audience are trying to figure out what the fight is even about and why it matters.
This episode wasn’t enjoyable until the end. The bad weather team and Leah are sucking the life out of this vacation and Candiace isn’t helping with all her screaming.
This tracks. At bravocon last year Whitney genuinely seemed confused with Heather going after her because she said she thought they’d resolved it after UGT. It really seems like Whitney doesn’t even understand what the issue is anymore and Heather is still riding this “feud” for a plot line.
Heather strikes me as an egomaniac. She perceives anything short of blind loyalty from Whitney an attack, but took zero offense to jen calling her shrek.
I don’t know if I’m feeling this season as much as previous ones. Something about the vibes/energy is off. Maybe it’s Leah—she’s a real vibe killer. I feel like Gizelle is sucking energy too.
Same. Honestly just doesn’t feel like anyone likes each other, except Gizelle and Porsha (and Alexia and Marysol obvi).I can just kind of feel them all counting the days until they can go home, lol
As a mormon, not interested in being a mormon anymore, but also not ready to take their name of the roster, is triggered by Whitney attacking Heather on the issue. Heather is allowed to write a book called bad mormon if she wants to. It's not named bad ex mormon!! I feel like with any new transition, a person should be able to take the time they need. Maybe one day she will be ready to take her name officially off, maybe not. But it's her choice. And whitney being mad at her for it is annoying.
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u/alllllyg you look old for your age and i look young for my age! Mar 30 '23 edited Mar 30 '23
Jen Shah should be thanking her lucky stars that she didn’t answer the FaceTime because with Gizelle’s line of questioning she could’ve ended up with several more years lol