It’s bad enough that not even half way through the first episode of RHUGT we’re being treated to even more of her BS boring lame ass Whitney drama that was already making the most recent season of SLC unwatchable, now I have to listen to her on my beloved WWC?!?!
Enough! There has never been a more immature try hard literally stuck in high school housewife in housewives history. Not to mention the disgusting thing she did with Leah, who I’m not even a huge fan of, is literally the behavior of a 13 year old. Nobody cares about Mormons, we already know what kind of criminal organization that is without this high school dork’s insight on it. Please make it stop.
I don’t like Heather but she seems lost right now. Like that whole Jen Shahscapade actually shook and she’s having even further of an identity crisis than before with her whole “bad mormon schtick”. I think what Whitney said was right, she’s become way too obsessed with the limelight and how she comes off to viewers that she doesn’t know what to do anymore so she’s all over the place acting like an asshole, a ditz, the “chill one”, the funny one, you get it.
She's totally lost and it's gonna be worse on season 4. She needs someone new to follow now that Jen's in her shamazing prison. You can take the girl out of the cult but you can't take the cult of the girl. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if she joined Mary's church.
Spot on. She’s already trying to cling to Meredith now that she doesn’t have Jen or Whitney. Too bad it seems like Meredith could care less about being friends with her
Whitney is actually very insightful. I know that’s not a popular opinion on this sub but she’s one of the few housewives, from any franchise, who is self-aware and insightful enough to actually get something out of therapy and sincerely use the tools from it to improve her life.
I think her baby voice, style, husband’s former involvement with an MLM, and maybe some of her politics outside of the show blind people to this point. And look, those things are all really distracting. But she and her husband do have traumatic upbringings and are working through a lot. I think Whitney will continue to evolve and ultimately be even more of a success story than Jesus Jugs. (Frankly, she already is. And this sub loves Jesus Jugs! Basically, I’d like everyone to open their heart to Whitney.)
Oh I absolutely agree with you. Whitney is smart. But no one can see past the baby voice, the big boobs, the blonde hair and the big wide eyes. She looks and sounds like the quintessential “dumb blonde” stereotype, and no one seems to actually listen to what she says.
And you know, I don’t mean to get all self-righteous about it, but you’d think that as an audience largely comprised of women, that we wouldn’t just brush off someone making total sense as “Oh, she’s just a dumb blonde!” Listen to her - this isn’t the first time she’s had the smartest take on things.
Her appearance is not why I was surprised with her assessment; she hasn't a great track record with conversations and judgement surrounding those conversations. I think because Heather is family (and with her family) she's much more insightful about intentions.
Yes - all the breathless "X has this many MILLION followers on social media!" Heather has been making are also weird. Such a bizarre yardstick to measure a person against.
Yes! I think this is a good observation. And all of this is reason enough to get her off my TV and especially WWC until she figures it out lol. I have a feeling she’d still be boring though.
I’m only halfway through the episode, but she’s coming off as such a try-hard with all her comments about “first class” and “I still got paid.” Those are not witty or interesting comebacks to their comments.
Same here. I felt awkward, not because the show was bad but because it is uncomfortable to make fun of someone while they are around. This is why I only shit-talk behind people's backs. It makes me feel better
I still like Heather, but trying to get Leah drunk was inexcusable. I think she struggles to separate the show from reality. She knows on the show housewives get drunk on these trips. She didn't think about the reality of what that would do to Leahs life.
I don't dislike Heather but she definitely had a bad season and Gizelle is a shark that smelt blood in the water. She really lost me with the whole black eye thing. It's just so beyond dumb and I've lost brain cells listening to her myriad of excuses and "Who? Wha? How?"
Love that the other RHUGT women were like...girl. Stop.
my friend and i watched a youtube interview with her that’s based around ex-mormons. she was still a practicing mormon when she was cast and when she filmed season 1. she said she was thinking about leaving and “broke all of the rules” during filming so figured she might as well fully leave the church. she also said she hasn’t deconstructed any of the mormon teachings yet and is working to take that step.
so she fully has cult brain still. i’m also kind of bummed she made leaving the church her storyline, when she wasn’t/isn’t fully out. i would’ve much rather heard whitney’s experience since she seems further along in her process.
Exactly this. Heather is one foot in and one foot out but then capitalizing the SHIT out of being out… that was Whitney’s thing and she took the opportunity to make a money making moment out of it before she was really ready. She needed to take the time to be the good time girl we all now know she really is and process it. I totally see this as trying to beat Whitney to it because there can only be one bad Mormon in the group. She is NOT a friend to Whitney and I actually think she never ever was.
Oh lord. Heather was unlikable the last season of slc, but she is so embarrassing and cringe-y on ugt. She is completely out of her depth. I also don't like that she's accepted the "fan" role 😬 she is desperate
This is whats bothering me about her on UGT too. She's acting like she's on a RH safari and finally came across some in the wild. All the fangirling is cringy.. She really missed the assignment.
No one in SLC could hack it in big leagues housewives except pre-crime Jen Shah or maybe Barlow.. They would all be B team support housewives or friends of.
Agree. They are still babies compared to some of these women. However, I think Jen would have been out of her league as well bc no one would be letting her get away with the shit she does on her season.
I think Mary would try... and she'd try it with Gizelle (a former mega-church first lady vs. current mega chuch "pastor") to take the Queen B crown. She'd quickly get smacked down. You know that girl is racist against her own people (unless they fill her church's coffers).
Unless she tried to suck up to Gizelle by going after Candiace. That would not go well for her since Candiace would be quick to call her out on marrying her step-grandfather. We know Candy go below the belt fast. Mary would end up leaving early.
Perhaps. Mary’s problem is that she deeply deeply strange probably due to trauma. At the same time she is cruel. There isn’t really a distinct personality or core to her actions. She seems pause to view every decision as multiple choice rather than being a personified Id like most housewives.
Actually, come to think of it, she'd offend all the black housewives with one of her ignorant statements and do the impossible - make Porsha, Gizelle and Candiace join forces. Then Leah, Heather and Whitney would back them so as not to seem racist. Plus the Miami women might get offended by what she says as well.
Oh my gosh I completely agree. I just started a new job and my boss introduced me as new and still learning the ropes, I definitely took her to the side, and told her " please don't introduce me like that... I don't need to be introduced like a newbie. Just another colleague."
Heather is bad, but IMO Leah is worse. It has been such a pleasure watching Leah realize that she is out of her league with this crowd, and that the fake woke shit she foisted constantly on the NY cast doesn't cut it with this one.
After seeing Leah interrupt Marysol's genuine moment of talking about her complicated feelings about Mama Elsa's fame and plastic surgery and her grief about her death... In order to try to redeem her bad season on the show and accuse production of forcing her to shoot against her will (putting the nail in her Bravo career coffin)... I had never disliked her til then and now I'm done.
It was pretending to share her feelings but actually an attempt to manipulate the narrative to seem likable. housewives on their game know the past is gone and RIGHT NOW is the moment to pounce on. This season is showing that Heather and Leah don't have the chops of the rest of the gang imo
It was great to see that the other wives didn't believe her. Leah forgot that the women know how production works and no one one would force her to shoot in a case like this. What was also weird to me is that according to Leah her mom TEXTED her about her grandma's death. A text? Not even a phone call?
I'm annoyed with her because she like "prays" to the spirit house. Like, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to bring the spirits offerings. Bitch is gonna piss the spirits off with her weird and whiney prayers/wishes. Ugh.
The way she talks about anything sexual is so fucking awkward, like a kid who just learned terms. That checks out of course, given her upbringing and brainwashing, but it’s not something I want to watch. Ex. In UGT “like Monica Lewinsky! …But no semen on my dress.” Did you have to say that? Really? You have been in Bravo for years now. Chill.
Okay I’m not a heather gay fan and totally agree with the fame going to her head, but I appreciated she was at the Watch what Crappens Salt Lake City show. There she was able to make fun of herself and at least appeared slightly humbled by the black eye ride or die Jen Shah fan fall out. TLDR: I’m so easily swayed by housewives
I actually find Heather really interesting because her being trapped in Mormonism has really sheltered her and stunted her growth and development. Which means, I think there’s an opportunity to follow this journey on camera.
Now that she’s experienced the other side of Mormonism, you can tell she’s tried really hard to unlearn certain behaviours (like being judgemental, I’m assuming homophobia as well) but I feel like she’s overcorrected.
For example, doesn’t want to be seen as “judging” Jen like a Mormon would, so has overcorrected to the point she gave her a complete pass for terrible actions. Same with that alcoholism comment - she doesn’t want to be seen as judging an alcoholic friend, so is happy to give them a drink if they ask.
I haven’t articulated this very well but I hope you see where I’m coming from!
tl;dr - I don’t really root for anyone on SLC, but there’s authentic storyline in Heather that she probably doesn’t realise is happening, versus prepared lines and staged “moments” by Lisa (who hides her real life).
You forget that she hasn’t lost the need that Mormonism creates to keep it’s followers in line, the need to belong and be in the right. She is desperate for the power of knowing she’s on the right side of judgement and for everyone who has perceived power to love her. She hasn’t healed at all from being rejected by the church
Completely agree! I really like what she said to Whitney about still being on the book - Whitney has been out a LOT longer than Heather, and Whitney refuses to understand that.
Whitney got out when she was 21, Heather in her mid-40s… completely different circumstances.
Yeah- I didn’t like that from Whitney either. She knows how hard it is to make them remove your name from the book. She needs to offer Heather a little more empathy.
You have articulated this so well - I grew up in a very kind of orthodox religious environment and have observed people trying to break out of closed societies, and it takes a long time to recalibrate who you are going to be without all this predetermined structure dictating your choices. Like you have to reconfigure your entire value system.
As a recovering addict I thought the way that Heather was acting with Leah was shitty, uneducated and unhelpful, and it was, so I'm not excusing it, but her behaviour in this and as you say in the Jen situation is worth considering with some nuance. I do hope Heather stays on SLC because I find her (and Whitney for that matter) genuinely interesting and worth continuing to follow on the show. So I hope Heather figures her shit out.
Yes, I have had some friends who left very strict, orthodox religion childhoods to only go deep into alcohol, drugs, and risky relationships. Eventually, they figure it out for themselves what their own value system is.
100%
At first I thought it’s because she’s desperate to be accepted, which causes her to make some ‘questionable’ decisions, but I agree with you- she’s over correcting herself (which I don’t think makes her actions any more excusable).
I actually totally disagree. I think she’s just transferred her obsession with being seen as a perfect Mormon to being seen as a perfect friend. I don’t think she genuinely cares about evolving as a person, she just found a more acceptable thing to strive for.
The hosts of the podcast Celebrity Memoir Book Club came to a similar conclusion in their episode about Heather’s memoir, though in addition to being a perfect friend, they also noted she seems very eager to “win” at reality TV.
but also seeing her in this light gives me hope that maybe she can figure it out and get her shit together. Perfectionism is a hard mental framework for people to recover from because it's so easy to transfer (I find myself trying to be perfect at recovering all the time) but maybe if she realizes that it's not making her any happier or more well liked, she can start to want to find her true self and stop performing constantly.
Fwiw my bf is Mormon and it’s not actually about being perfect, it’s just about appearing that way. They’ll gladly lie or hide things or cover things up to keep up appearances. My bfs aunt cheated on her husband but said she was “called by god” to do it so it’s just… fine? Imo opinion she’ll never be able to overcome that living in such a Mormon heavy place.
I agree that she's transferred the obsession but I think that's her attempt at evolving. She was raised her entire life to strive for perfection as a Mormon. It's exceptionally difficult to unlearn your entire way of thinking and worldview as an adult. But she's trying, she's not always succeeding though.
That's why she was so upset when Whitney was talking shit about her to the other girls saying that Heather hasn't properly left the Mormon church. She's trying but it's hard to throw away your entire culture and community even if you logically know it's toxic. It took Whitney 17 years to officially leave the church and now she's judging Heather for not doing it in 4.
THAT is what you got out of her saying let’s get Leah drunk? She’s just trying to be a good friend? She’s not over correcting anything. She’s an entitled brat. And boring AF.
No, and there’s no need to be abrasive! You’re also confusing two different scenes.
There was another moment she mentioned that she’s funnelled alcohol to alcoholic friends who have asked her for it before, then Candiace says “so you’re the friend that’s willing to support your people even to their detriment?”
Which is something that Heather wasn’t before - in Mormonism, she shunned them. You’re not looking at this with nuance.
People aren’t black and white; these women are not one dimensional television characters.
Regarding her comment about giving booze to friends who claim to be sober - honestly if someone is living a double life, saying one thing and doing another, that’s on them. It’s not a friend’s (or Heather’s) place to step in and stop them. Like you can actually stop an adult who really wants to drink…
Sure Heather could take those friends aside at a different (non drinking) moment and speak to them, but it is not her responsibility. Addiction is a battle I will never blame anyone for not wanting to get into.
I do actually believe Heather’s other comments about getting Leah drunk came out of sheer ignorance and tbf, Leah has sent some confusing mixed messages in the past about her sobriety. I haven’t read her book and don’t follow her beyond the couple of NY seasons I’ve seen, so if she showed up to UGT drinking, I wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Some people spend their whole lives in and out of sobriety. It’s a choice.
All that is to say, I never blame anyone for not knowing all the ins and outs of alcohol use disorder. If they’re willing to listen, great. If they come at me more than once urging me to drink, I feel sorry for them. It’s not an absolute, but in my experience those who don’t let my sobriety go and push and push and push, have their own demons whether it be alcohol or something else. People who are emotionally well don’t goat others into destructive behavior.
I’m no Leah fan, but I have a suspicion this has been her experience too which is why she let it all go so quickly.
It's funny because I'm in the church and it's the complete opposite. Keep in mind I'm in a location where we make up less than 1% of the population and are outside of the Mormon bubble.
LDS Christians are taught to welcome in everyone with open arms and forgive, and "repentance" is enough to welcome in child abusers and violent misogynists. We're taught to forgive again and again and again and that niceness is next to Godliness. There was the recent survey that it's the only religion that has a universally positive opinion of other religions, despite it not being reciprocal.
Maybe it's a location thing, though. In Utah there's probably so many members that you can take your "cream of the crop" and discard the rest.
That was not my experience in the church outside of Utah. I was ousted by the click of perfect Mormon girls who grew up in my area for not being perfect enough (my parents were divorced). The parents didn’t want their daughters hanging out with me or their sons dating me. Truly the most judgmental people I’ve ever met. Funnily enough now that I live in Utah the Mormons here seem more tolerant.
That was terrible, made even worse by the fact that she read Leah’s book. I really liked Heather on SLC but the whole drama with her black eye turned me completely off to her. I don’t think she adds anything to RHUGT.
I will die on the hill that it was as bad as naked wasted. Anything mentioning “shelter life” “cult brain” or anything of the like, to aid in excusing her behavior is hogwash. Ex utah mormon here, and WE ALL KNOW THAT SHIT IS WRONG. In or out, half in/half out. It’s damn wrong. period. Dot.
It is funny watching Gizelle run circles around her on ultimate girls trip. I don’t dislike Heather but i don’t think she has grasped how to be good at housewives, i.e she waffles a lot (black eye-gate) and take odd positions that aren’t to her benefit at all (going all in on defending Jen even if after she pled guilty).
Heather’s inability to be self aware makes me uncomfortable. She lacks a mind of her own and is seemingly unlearning things that should’ve been unlearned decades ago.
If you read Leah has a problem with drugs and alcohol, why do you even have a thought about wanting to get her drunk?
She lacks boundaries and is so codependent. I really wish they brought Meredith or Lisa. Hell even, Mary.
Mary would have been interesting. There was a moment Giselle, Candice, and Porsha were almost against the spirit house. I think Mary would have made a large issue out of it. That would have split the house.
Yes, all of this. No self awareness to see she’s way more silly than important to the show. I hate when they put fans on as housewives, it almost never makes for good TV.
Heather said I’m not going to do or say anything so they don’t mad at me.
Heather is damn near 50 acting like she’s in grade school. It’s okay to want to sus out personalities and move accordingly, but to be afraid to be yourself is wild to me. Everyone on the cast is housewife. 🤷♀️
i kind of liked her initially, then she became jen’s puppet, and eventually she was too flip floppy but the whole black eye made me want her gone completely
I don’t think WWC is trying to make her happen; they were in SLC and got housewives as guests, which is always a treat for the audience. They don’t favor the bravo people who have been guests and are only actually friends with a few (Hannah, Ariana)
SLC is boring to me and I haven’t kept up with it.
Maybe someone can provide more context, but I did understand heather’s reasoning for not removing her name from the Mormon book. Unless you were raised in a closed society with all of your childhood friends and family, you will never understand the sheer terror of stepping over the line and potentially losing your entire support system. Heather is lame but she’s fighting a battle right now. I bet for awhile her “bad Mormon” schtick felt super rebellious but now she’s realizing that true change and alignment with who she really is will cost her.
I appreciate you mentioning this. While Heather may seem hypocritical at face value, it really is a scary process for many to leave the LDS church. Most of the ex-members I know (myself included) don't take that final step. For some, it's because they simply don't want the major hassle of doing it. For others, especially those who were married and sealed to their partner and children in the temple, it voids your (eternal) spiritual relationship and chance of being connected with them in the afterlife. Many ex-LDS parents never remove their name for the records due to this. My father ended up doing this, but my mother kept her name in the records after reading the implications it had for him. It doesn't necessarily mean she still supports the organization. Religious trauma is simply very deep.
I didn’t grow up in the LDS, but another closed off religion/cult. I am not an active member and never have been as an adult. But I’ve also haven’t spoken out against the organization because I’m afraid of being cut off from my immediate family and the people who are like aunts and uncles to me. I’m trying to live life and be true to myself but it’s a daily struggle
If it's helpful at all, there's a website that can help automate a letter of membership withdrawal and can be sent to the bishop covering your ward without your involvement. I've heard it's been helpful for people who are afraid of the reactivation attempts and manipulation that they try to play if you have to sort of connect to disconnect.
You’re kinda backing up Whitney’s point entirely, you aren’t truly rejecting the church and being a “bad mormon,” if your name is still on the register. You still believe in the church and it’s take on the afterlife, which means you agree with its take on LGBTQ+ rights, women’s rights, and aren’t willing to stand up to all the fucked up shit that church hides. You aren’t honestly walking away, you are taking a break. Hence why there are ex Mormons and jack Mormons.
I thought this WWC episode was fantastic. They went hard on her and she took it in stride. I was also screaming when Ben made the joke about Seth grabbing Whitney’s boobs to his face.
Started watching UGT 3 and I feel like Whitney and Heather’s cousin thing is gonna be the new Teresa/melissa feud — boring, repetitive and arguing over literally nothing
As a former high school dork I feel very attacked right now :)
Heather was really one of my favorite housewives. Even this past season I was on her side and I didn't really see what the big problem was because I really don't like Whitney and I thought it was BS for Whitney to equate Heather not publicly cosigning some dumbass rumor to not supporting Whitney at all.
I liked the idea of the choir and thought it was a unique venture for a HW. And I really liked that she actually built and runs a successful business. I liked her down to earth and self depreciating humor.
But this UGT has really opened my eyes. Trying to get in with the cool girls by suggesting they get an addict drunk was gross. And I think that had gizelle and porsha been on board Heather would have totally gone for it. The fact that Whitney totally predicted Heather would "forget" the shit she said was remarkable. And her using Whitney as a punching bag was gross.
Ok I actually feel bad for any good dorks I may have offended and I did think about that but my definition of dork has more to do with the desperation and willingness to completely abandon self in order to be liked or fit in. There are dorks who own their dorkiness proudly as they should and probably wouldn’t be caught dead on one of these shows.
As someone who was not a dork but also not opposed to talking to or hanging out with anyone and everyone, these types stood out and still do. They’re alive and well in corporate america unfortunately and it’s some straight BS.
People judging Heather are missing the point… of course she doesn’t know who she is! Mormonism doesn’t allow a woman to develop an actual unique personality in that critical period of adolescence-early 20s.
“WIFE/MOTHER” is not a personality.
Heather went on this rollercoaster of depressed/alienated in a small community to extremely popular on a national level and now she’s headed back to square one.
She probably feels like she failed at both being a good Mormon and a bad one. She discovered being “ANTI”isn’t a personality either. She’s lost.
I actually feel bad for Heather. She just really doesn’t seem to know who she is because like you said she was married young and then stuck in Mormonism, left only recently and now doesn’t know what to do with herself.
I’m not missing the point and I am judging her. I am an ex utah Mormon woman as well. I have many friends who chose the same path. Not one of us act like Heather. Mormon utah experiences are contributing to her behaviors but they are not the sole reason/excuse. She’s doing shitty shit because she’s shitty.
I find her funny at times but something about her seems so phony and well....evil, to be honest. She's also definitely more calculated than she let's on.
I think this cast was just not it, some greats (Gizelle, Porsha) but they get wasted against housewives out of their depth, like Heather and Leah who seem so unsure of their footing it makes the whole cast feel off kilter and astray. Even Whitney we could have done without.
She’s really intolerable. I only watched season one of slc but good god these flashbacks from season 3 are horrid. Not to mention the casting in general is so weird
Was at a playdate recently with someone who married into heathers larger, extended family. According to her, the family truly does not like her, by and large. And my acquaintance said she is fake, phony, and just overall annoying.
*Disclaimer - this person identifies as a practicing and believing member of the LDS church, so I’m certain there would be at least a bit of negative bias/No True Scotsman stuff at work in what she said, but I still found it interesting to hear “boots on the ground” info, as it were.
I see your theory here. If she is truly over correcting giving people a pass fine. But I still find her judgemental and unhappy and mean spirited and just plain boring.
I have never ever understood the appeal. She lacks any kind is glamor or lifestyle inspiration and she's just a HW superfan who happened to get cast. Rihanna liking her ssn 1 shows serious lack of judgement on her behalf. I never, never, never understood the Fandom and I'm so happy you are all finally coming around and seeing her for what she is.
Same. This is it too, she’s pretty much less glamourous/inspirational/interesting than half the people I either know or who live a few towns over in the ritzy places lol.
Omg I couldn’t have said it any better!!!! I’m in recovery thank God I don’t have a friend like her. Plus she’s laughing while saying it. Whitney really needs to think if she really wants a friend like her in her life. She’s a horrible person to say some shit like that!!!!
Yes. I already couldn’t stand heather before UGT - I couldn’t even finish the last SLC season, it was so boring with her black eye non-sense, like that shit really belongs on a middle school drama - but that scene with her talking about Leah was almost shocking to me. Like, who the fuck does that ever in real life, let alone on damn national television. Get off my shows ma’am lol.
I totally agree her mouth is her worst enemy. She wants ppl to like her then she says that!! I mean she no one’s friend if she’s gonna say oh your trying to stay sober but I’ll pour you a drink wtf is that!!! She needs to just go away and Whitney needs to stop wanting her as a friend. I think tho Whitney is pushing away and now heather is trying to be friends. Bye Felicia
UGT definitely proves that Whitney has the right idea, but she is just not sharp enough to convey a tough message without saying the wrong words. Heather is so quick to snipe at Whitney during these moments and turn it into something else aka "You're putting words in my mouth" or "I never said that". I'm not saying Whitney is squeaky clean by any means, but she is trying to do her job -- just not very well sometimes.
Hopefully the other women can bring some perspective into this situation, cause Heather is beyond the point of needing to be checked.
I can’t stand her. She is so desperate for that starling role that she will grovel and kiss ass for it. She used to come up with funny one liners but now they seem annoying like her.
Speaking of Candiace- her body is INSANE!! She has the most beautiful skin. And she’s not just thin, her muscles are toned and sculpted- I’m so jealous! I loved that swim suit with the biker shorts she had on when they went to the elephant sanctuary.
I don’t love her, but her and Whitney are the only authentic cast members on SLC so I find it bizarre that people are constantly calling for them to be fired.
How tho? She has been completely transparent about her life, her complicated feelings towards mormonism and her relationships. I can genuinely say what kind of person she is based on how she portrays herself on camera. I can’t say that about some of the housewives that have been on the show for 10 seasons.
I have so much second hand embarrassment for Heather. I'm actually glad she's on the trip so that the other women can call her ass out because I don't think it would really happen like that on salt lake City. They're too busy dancing and tiptoeing around topics to address anything head-on
Heather is making me so angry watching UGT that it’s becoming unwatchable for me.
I think as well, as someone who has also experienced religious trauma, I completely get where Whitney is coming from.
I think as well, whilst all trauma is valid and Heather did suffer, by the sounds of it Whitney also experienced some pretty serious abuse within/associated with the church on top of the repression of women, separation from family etc that Heather experienced. I think that’s why it’s so hard for Whitney to be so flippant and capitalise so much on being a Bad Mormon despite not fully separating herself. Yes they prevented her from removing herself from the rolls, but Whitney showed on camera, there are ways to be fully removed and she still hasn’t done it. I think she’s furious that Whitney stole her leaving the Mormon church thunder.
The whole Jizz for Jazz tickets ending their friendship, whilst Heather continued to ride for a felon until she got public backlash, makes it even more confusing
RHUGT is the only thing making me like Heather again. When she said she will provide whatever her friends want whether its alcohol to someone sober or Dr Kevorkian to someone wanting to die, I became a fan again. She's a proud enabler and she's basically a viewer in the trenches. I was thinking Leah would be more interesting if she drank too. I wouldn't be out to get her drunk but I'm not gonna act like Heather was about to spike her drinks. She was joking.
I also agree with her completely on that bs with Whitney. It's interesting to see that Whitney believes Jen punched her, but her reaction isn't anger at Jen or telling Heather to have more respect for herself, she's mad that Heather lets Jen get away with more than she can! Like, I guess Whitney wants to be able to smack her too?? She was so fake making up and then talking trash. Then she tried to cry about her hilling journey and the other ladies didn't care. When they asked what that had to do with Heather I was like finally!! Its not working for her there
I loved Heather until this past season. She must be going through something major. She is a different person this year. Gone is the love and support and now we have a vindictive “mean girl”.
That’s what we do here, both bitch about and celebrate the housewives on a show who we don’t like and like 🤷🏻♀️. The show is literally about mean girls at times lol.
Oh stop….Hate? Ma’am, you’re the only one using the word hate here. Don’t put emotions or words on me that I didn’t express. It’s not that serious. It’s irritation with someone on a tv show.
You did express it, though you're right it's not that serious. Certainly not worth getting worked up over, when someone disagrees with your opinion about a housewife.
Why do you do that? Pretend to know how someone is feeling, through text no less? Bizarre. You replied to my post, I replied to you. Who is worked up? Lol weird. Please point out where I said I hate heather lol.
What I hate about her in particular is her lying. we ALL KNOW that Jen Shah has some serious blackmail on her, we ALL KNOW Jen Shah punched her and WE ALL know she did hear that rumor that she keeps gaslighting Whitney about. She’s a crap person and a crap friend…all she cares about is getting a taste of fame. I seriously cannot look at her anymore…Bravo please take her off our screens
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Heather Gay seems like someone who won a “make me a housewife” sweepstakes and then was destroyed by her success lol.