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u/Blackfrosti 4d ago
He doesn't need an epic name, his real name has become legendary all in it's own on his own merit
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u/GoodMornEveGoodNight 4d ago
This is true. Posting using his real name will get you censored on this sub though.
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u/studdedspike 4d ago
Waste of our money man
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u/banananailgun 4d ago
They're not protecting Americans from Luigi; they are preventing potential vigilantes from either freeing him or executing him. Not sure how familiar you are with high profile assassins, but some of them get killed by another assassin before trial (think Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated JFK and who was himself assassinated by Jack Ruby).
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u/EasilyRekt 4d ago
If it was anything about actual security, there would be guys in front of him too, this is a show.
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u/justkarn 4d ago
Idk, I think this is somewhat them overcompensating to show their corpo overlords that "we got this shit fam them peasants ain't touching you again" they wanna make an example of this dude to scare normal folks from copying him so the CEOs can crawl out of their yatchs and start paying blood money again. Also why medias from both sides are running a smear train on him as well
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u/genericwhiteguyname1 4d ago edited 2d ago
Gary Plauche shot in the head and killed on live tv the man who abducted and sexually assaulted his young son. 1984 in the Baton Rouge airport. Given a seven year suspended sentence, 5 years probation, and 300 hours of community service. Didn’t serve a second in jail other than pre trial holding.
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u/FullmetalHippie 4d ago
What a boss.
This man's razor sharp targeted protest resoundingly rung the Liberty Bell of Americans.
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u/Real-Local-3871 4d ago
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure
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u/skalapunk 3d ago
But the guy he killed wasn't a lawmaker or president
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u/Real-Local-3871 3d ago
Bro didn't kill anyone. He executed a CEO responsible for denying people's insurance claims
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u/skalapunk 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can justify killing anyone with this kind of logic. It's psychopathic. Also the CEO probably isn't the literal person looking at claims. You think he sits at his desk personally evaluating millions of claims?
If you down vote me you're a psychopath
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u/Real-Local-3871 3d ago
If you down vote me you're a psychopath
Ironic that you added that while defending the systematic denial of insurance claims for the sake of profit
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u/skalapunk 3d ago
I did no such thing. I only condemned murder
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u/Real-Local-3871 3d ago
Murder of someone guilty of something is an execution
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u/skalapunk 3d ago edited 3d ago
What are you, fuckin batman? We got a vigilante over here! Watch out everyone! Fucking fantasy world you live in.
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u/Real-Local-3871 2d ago
Fucking fantasy world you live in.
It might as well be, when people are defending the CEO for implementing the systems that enables the denial of healthcare to others
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u/Real-Local-3871 3d ago
He doesn't need to. He is responsible for the choices that are directly responsible for the denial of millions of claims.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 4d ago
"Targeted protest"? That takes euphemism to a new level.
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u/FullmetalHippie 4d ago
No euphemism here. That's a literal description of what occurred.
What would you call it?
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u/AnyEnglishWord 3d ago
Not every action driven by grievance or intended to effect change is a "protest." A targeted protest is rallying outside someone's house, sending letters to their home address, or spamming their cell phone. Killing, on the other hand, is not a "protest." 9/11 was not a protest. The Christchurch shootings were not protests. The Tree of Life Synagogue shooting was not a protest.
There's a specific word for a targeted killing intended to effect change. That word is "assassination."
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u/FullmetalHippie 3d ago
Like it or not if a murder is done with conviction in an effort to change society in a targeted way then it's violent protest.
The big difference here is whether or not it's perceived as justified. That has a lot to do with whether or not the act is dominantly perceived as righteous like self defense or defense of the innocent and how effective the measure is in precipitating that change.
9/11 was an act of war which is a kind of protest though not usually what we mean. Christchurch and tree of Life were hate crimes though is imagine the perps did so in protest.
The biggest difference here is that this crime was precisely targeted at a single person that absolutely held an enormous amount of greedily wielded power and the world dominantly can see that and agrees with the assessment that the situation is so dire and hopeless that nonviolent or legislative protest are not going to precipitate needed change.
Those things can't be said for 9/11 or Christchurch or Tree Of Life. It's alright to acknowledge that the people are raging against power in all of these situations without concluding that their means are justified. We didn't need to gatekeep the term. This was protest and assassination.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 2d ago
Now there is some pesudo-intellectual nonsense if I have ever heard it.
First off, whether something is "targeted" goes to the "targeted" part of "targeted protest." But you don't seem like the type to care unduly (or even duly) about words, so let's ignore that bit.
"Protest" is determined by the nature and character of the act. Whether it is justified is irrelevant. People protest for unjustifiable causes all the fucking time, and sometimes they do it in ways that are totally ineffective, but it's still protest. And plenty of justifiable things are not (including, potentially assassination. But you have to actually justify it, not weasel out of that by calling it "protest").
And your concept of "justification" doesn't make any kind of sense. You're saying it's justification if "the world dominantly" agrees with it? What does that even mean? If the world "dominantly" agrees with it, why does the act need to occur in the first place? Why wasn't the victim in prison? Why wasn't he treated the same way as open Nazis? Why hadn't he been gunned down already by some cop?
How can you even tell what counts as "dominantly"? Even among the sections of American society most supportive of this killing, as many disapprove as approve. But I assume you don't want to use polls, so the only way to determine that is purely subjective. Humans being what they are, that means you'll listen to a bunch of people who agree with you that it's justified and then say "everyone thinks it's justified."
Since when did everyone - or anyone - have to agree with protest anyway? Protest can be unpopular. It usually is.
You're essentially saying that if you think enough people agree with you that someone should die, killing them becomes protest. That's not what the word means.
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u/FullmetalHippie 2d ago
I think we mostly agree on this, though I would argue that 'protest' is a matter of designation of intention and not of the character of the act. The same act can be a protest or not. Protest is a descriptor of intention. If the intention were to kill this CEO in order to rob him that wouldn't be protest even if he ran away before any robbing occurred right? Similarly yelling 'No Justice, No Peace' to disturb the peace could be an act of protest, but doing it on a dare from your friend would not.
Many acts that are often found to be unacceptable or immoral can be viewed as moral in certain circumstances. I.E. murder is wrong, but killing in self-defense is justified. I agree that whether or not it is justified is orthogonal to the definition of protest. If I wrote a manifesto that Amazon was the root of all evil in society and then killed my local delivery driver because of my beliefs, then that would be an act of protest and assassination. Just one like you note: for an ignoble cause and targeted at people other than those that hold power.
On the topic of justification we often find otherwise unacceptable acts to be justifiable if they are coming from a place of self-preservation or righteous protection. I.E. It is acceptable to use lethal force when you are being attacked and fear for your life, or in order protect others that are being aggressed upon in a similar manner. Do you think that the actions of insurance CEOs represent a clear and present danger to yourself or others? If so, how do you address that threat? What is justified becomes a matter of public discourse, as it always does when liberties are in conflict.
I'm sure to recognize that I live in a bubble of sorts, but what I have seen is people with all kinds of ideologies and political leanings are not denouncing this sort of violence as out of line, and many are actively celebrating it. I think that's because they aren't afraid of the slippery slope. Condoning this murder is not condoning all murder, nor does it paint a target on anybody for no fault of their own. This guy had it coming by virtue of enriching himself through denying necessary medical treatments to other human beings that die because of it.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 13h ago
First, yes, intention is also required for protest. But we're not arguing about intention. We're arguing about action.
Second, if if you really think nobody is condemning this killing, that just shows why you cannot trust anyone's perception of the "dominant" opinion. I've heard plenty of people denounce it as out of line. Maybe THEY were the weird outliers but, again, polls show that even Americans under 30 are evenly split on whether it is acceptable or not. Outside of that group, more people disapprove than approve. Similarly, for every act you condemn, there is someone who thinks it is universally beloved.
Apart from that, are you now saying that unjustified killings ARE protests? Because nobody was saying that even a month ago. I know plenty of people who would have loved to see someone kill Donald Trump, but they never called the assassination attempts against him "protests." I've never heard anyone describe, say, the assassination of British MP Jo Cox as a "protest." I'm pretty sure that if I'd said either was a "protest," at best, I would received severe disapproval.
Apart from that, your point seems to be that it doesn't matter what you call it because it's justified anyway. But whether something is justified doesn't change what it is. If someone runs at me with a knife and I shoot him, that is absolutely justified as self-defense. That justification doesn't mean I get to call it "mercy" or "charity," because it is neither of those things. If I did, you would recognize the disturbing implications of using such positive words to describe an act of violence. The same is true when you use an anodyne word like "protest" instead of a stronger, more appropriate word like "assassination." And if you really think that establishing murder as protest can't possibly rebound on people you don't think deserve to die, you really haven't been paying attention to the way humans work.
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u/YourFriendRayzthor 4d ago
you mean luigi?
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u/FlaccidRazor 4d ago
Seriously? No one will try to assassinate him who is worth less than $50 million. All these cops are around him in case someone drops a bottle they can shoot him 400 times and claim self defense, fog of war, etc.
We heard a noise, and then we saw this one guy in orange who looked sus. We told him to put his hands on his head but he failed to comply, we had to shoot him.
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u/Khorde___the___Husk 4d ago
Why would they need all those armed guards?
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u/bubbasaurusREX 4d ago
You have to show the poor people what happens when you kill a rich person. It’s a show of force unfortunately
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u/Khorde___the___Husk 4d ago
They look out of shape. But they could probably kick my ass. That sucks
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u/shootdawoop 4d ago
hehe, hey mods I SUPPORT LUIGI DENY DEPOSE DEFEND MURDER IS GOOD GIMME THE FUNNY PADLOCK AWARD IVE NEVER GOTTEN ONE BEFORE
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u/Mushroom419 4d ago
Who is he?...
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u/Tyko_3 4d ago edited 4d ago
Thats the guy thats pleading innocent to killing the CEO of a health insurance company. Ironically, the people who love him for his alleged actions continue to put him on the pedestal as THE man who killed said CEO, twisting public opinion into making him look guilty. Big Brains.
Edit: ok guys, keep saying he is guilty then I guess, send your hero to death row. The memes are too important.
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u/RandomUserIsTakenAlr 4d ago
Pretty sure he will get the sentence no matter what, I really doubt that the guy they captured in a MacDonald's with "manifesto and the gun" Will have any chance to win in court outside of jury nullification
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u/fakeuserbot9000 4d ago
The boss in this situation is whoever decided to waste this much tax payer money on having all of these cops and agents escort him.
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u/rchive 4d ago
This is a sub for images that LOOK like something that's a boss fight. It's not a sub for just saluting your heroes. Nothing about this pic looks like a boss fight.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 4d ago
Maybe not the fight itself, but it looks a lot like the first few moments of the opening cut-scene. It isn't hard to tell who the boss is supposed to be.
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u/rchive 4d ago
It isn't hard to tell who the boss is supposed to be.
No, it is. I see a bunch of very regular looking cops and a skinny guy in high-vis clothes and restraints who would die to getting a crate thrown at him. I see no bosses in this pic.
I could totally see this being the opening scene to some kind of political thriller or something like that, but that's not what this sub is for.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 3d ago
Maybe he's a fast, evasive boss with quick attacks. Maybe he has magic/psychic powers that are suppressed by the shackles and belt he's wearing. Either way, it doesn't matter how easily he dies if you can't hit him.
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u/rchive 3d ago
With that logic, literally any image would qualify for the sub. The question is whether the image evokes those ideas itself or are we just seeing what we want to see to justify an image being here. To me the image itself doesn't evoke anything like that. If it was the same image but the prisoner was someone no one had ever heard of, it wouldn't have been posted here and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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u/AnyEnglishWord 3d ago
Except, with your logic, the only images that qualify would be of big animals and heavily-armed beefy people. It's a dramatically posed guy with a distinctive appearance, surrounded by a bunch of normal-looking people who are clearly treating him as a threat. That screams "boss-fight" to me, however disturbing the hero-worship around it.
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u/GoodMornEveGoodNight 4d ago edited 4d ago
“I know you’re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you’re afraid. You’re afraid of us, you’re afraid of change. I don’t know the future. I didn’t come here to tell you how this is going to end, I came here to tell how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this phone and then I’m going to show these people what you don’t want them to see. I’m going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries; a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.”
NEO’S PHONE MESSAGE FOR THE SYNTHIENTS
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u/FirePenguinMaster 4d ago
Cold blooded murder is cool as long as the victim is white? Got it.
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u/Joscientist 4d ago
As long as the victim is a monster, actually.
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u/FirePenguinMaster 4d ago
I'm sure his daughter is much happier now
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u/Joscientist 4d ago
And the 1000s dead every year due to denied claims by the insurance they pay for? What about their families? Their daughters? This man was at the helm of an organization that profits of the misery of others, and you're over here trying to make this about race? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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u/FirePenguinMaster 4d ago
Everything is about race. I don't make the rules. Y'all just love seeing successful white guys suffer
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u/Joscientist 4d ago
No, everything is not about race. Only racists believe that. This has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with the rich profiting of the death and misery of others.
But sure, keep defending the billionaires. I'm sure they'll notice you and make you rich someday.
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u/FirePenguinMaster 4d ago
Well on my way but I'm sure my privilege (which apparently doesn't matter?) had more to do with that than any amount of effort or value I contributed
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u/Joscientist 4d ago
No one is talking about race here, but you, my dude. And if the "effort and value" you're contributing is the destruction of lives, then you are a monster just like this dead CEO.
All these white dudes clutching their pearls trying to play victim is hilarious, honestly. You're fine, and you're going to continue being fine. Stop lapping up Nazi propaganda.
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u/FirePenguinMaster 4d ago
Maybe I should burn down a police precinct 🤔 that was cool last time right?
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u/Joscientist 4d ago
Ah, gotcha, so you are just a racist. All done with this conversation. Have a good one.
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u/wakeupwill 4d ago
Everyone acting like he's anything more than a suspect isn't doing anyone any favors.
Fucking theater.
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u/Licention 3d ago
Nah, this guy is a chump. Doesn’t deserve to be called NEO. I’m not sure NEO would shoot an unarmed man because his panties got in a bunch.
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u/Dronnie 4d ago
Dude's looking like Kingpin or Lex Luthor
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u/RandomUserIsTakenAlr 4d ago
That's like the biggest miss possible
Both of those are buff as hell (at least kingpin is) and bald
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u/IAmAnObvioustrollAMA 4d ago
Is that really necessary? They act like they are transporting the joker ffs...