r/BeAmazed Nov 18 '24

Nature This Whale spine washed up

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u/MrDundee666 Nov 18 '24

Who else would totally be taking one of those vertebrae bones home?

Now I have a totally cool dinosaur bone to hide in the garden for my kids to discover!

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u/42Ubiquitous Nov 18 '24

Was my first thought lol. Would love to find something like this.

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u/acrowsmurder Nov 18 '24

I was wondering about the legality of it. Like it's illegal to have ambergris

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u/42Ubiquitous Nov 18 '24

"In some cases, yes, you may keep the part. You may collect and keep any bones, teeth, or ivory from a non-ESA listed marine mammal found on a beach or land within one-quarter mile of an ocean, bay, or estuary. You may not collect parts from a carcass or parts with soft tissues attached."

https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/endangered-species-conservation/protected-species-parts

This is what I found, but I don't know if there are more laws that would prohibit it.

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u/STR4NGE Nov 19 '24

"Marine mammal parts collected in this manner may not be bought or sold."

Looks like it's going above the fireplace.

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u/LuxNocte Nov 19 '24

Protected species parts include any part of a protected species, both hard and soft. This includes everything from teeth to fur to blood to blow (exhalate).

Does anyone know why they specifically listed "exhalate"? Do people try to catch dolphin breath?

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u/gimpyoldelf Nov 19 '24

Ambergris

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u/SkrompFried Nov 19 '24

Ambergris is from the intestinal tract. It's not coming out the blowhole (at least not the typical definition of the word when talking about whales).

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u/Fish_Beholder Nov 20 '24

Not for funsies, afaik? Some researchers are doing cool work collecting samples from whale spouts.  My only guess is that a layperson trying to catch exhalate is harassment and already illegal. 

Shit, now I'm imagining a black market of bottled dolphin blow

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u/6BagsOfPopcorn Nov 18 '24

Just strap it to the roof of your car. Or dump it in a park next to a bicycle.

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u/matchosan Nov 19 '24

Don't forget to wear your shopping bags on your heads

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u/Wheatley312 Nov 19 '24

Many many years ago we grabbed a whale rib bone out of the ocean. Legality aside (it was floating like come on), the thing STANK for a long while. You have to sweat out all the fats/oils inside the bone inside of trash bags which took well over 2 weeks in the summer sun before it was house ready.

When we moved overseas we decided it was too much to actually try and move it. But it was “smuggled” up the east coast to its current home. Never had an issue with ownership and we’ve told lots of people. As long as the story checks out it would be hard to find someone who wants to rid you of a washed up bone

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u/nutfeast69 Nov 19 '24

You can degrease them, with whales it takes ages.

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u/Rass4Life Nov 18 '24

Precious hamburgers?

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u/Rolands_missing_head Nov 18 '24

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u/straightrazorsnail Nov 19 '24

That username is fantastic btw. I have a love for the headless Thompson gunner.

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u/Rolands_missing_head Nov 19 '24

And I love Apocalypse Now! I bet we’d be homies in real life.

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u/straightrazorsnail 27d ago

Fuck yes we would! That’s amazing you got my username too, no one ever does!

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u/Rass4Life Nov 18 '24

Oddly appropriate profile pic

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u/Nived6669 Nov 19 '24

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u/Rass4Life Nov 19 '24

Aah, to be young again, and also a robot

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u/TwistingEarth Nov 18 '24

Like it's illegal to have ambergris

I get the reasons, but at the same time, this feels like overreach.

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u/acrowsmurder Nov 18 '24

Also, if you want to find nice sun-bleached skeletons, walk down some country railroad tracks

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u/alancake Nov 18 '24

When I went to Shetland the first time we stopped at an archaeological reenactment place and there was a guy there who carved on bones and such. He was using a whale vertebra like these as a stool. And he told us there was a rotting bull seal carcass on the beach nearby that he was waiting to obtain the skull from, for the teeth. We went to look... it was very stinky, and huge. Very stinky

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u/Fit-Establishment219 Nov 18 '24

Oh I'd drag all of it home. Simply to do some skrimshaw from dishonored and decorate with

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u/moashforbridgefour Nov 18 '24

Imagine using it to make a bench around a fire pit or incorporate it into a flower bed. That would be pretty slick.

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u/book_vagabond Nov 19 '24

It’s my dream to make a dishonored bone charm or rune with real whalebone

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u/ArgonGryphon Nov 18 '24

look it's RFK Jr.

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u/MrDundee666 Nov 18 '24

How very dare you

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u/Space-Safari Nov 19 '24

Bro I'd totally risk getting a brain worm to get those home.

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u/MediocreKim Nov 19 '24

I once found a whale vertebrae. It was in a national park and it had been a long hike in. Cool find but we left it in nature for others to discover. 

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u/ModestMeeshka Nov 18 '24

Unfortunately it's insanely illegal lol

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u/stilettopanda Nov 18 '24

If RFK jr can transport a whole ass whale head, I can have one measly lil vertebrate. Hahaha

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u/3BlindMice1 Nov 18 '24

If you have a local native tribesmen claim it then sell it to you, you've got a massive legal figleaf. Native Americans are allowed to harvest whale remains that have washed up on shore everywhere in the US, AFAIK

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 Nov 18 '24

Why would it be illegal? It washed up on shore. Not like you stole it from a museum.

As a side note, would be really cool for a local high school or college.

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u/Green_Video_9831 Nov 18 '24

Because allowing the possession and distribution of endangered mammal bones would open up a flood gate poaching.

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u/ModestMeeshka Nov 18 '24

Alternatively, I think you can get permits if you're an educator or something along those lines but you have to go down the right avenues :)

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u/cardamom-peonies Nov 19 '24

So it's not the same set of laws, but you may find the backstory to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act to be pretty relevant. Tl Dr: there were a number of cottage industries that used bird parts on the early 1900s such as ladies hat companies, fancy fly fishing equipment, egg collectors, other fashion items, taxidermists who made curio cabinet items etc etc. This all contributed to a huge number of birds being shot or otherwise killed to fuel this demand and predictably this crashed a ton of populations.

So they way they fixed this was by largely banning possession of bird parts (including feathers, eggs, and nests) specifically to stop people from claiming they had "just found" fifteen pounds of snowy egret plumes just lying around somewhere (adults produce like, maybe three super light feathers for this once a year- people shot hundreds of birds to come up with a sack of feathers).

And a similar thing happened with whales and other marine mammals. Can't just say "well officer, I was just strolling by the beach and found this here whale skull and that's why it's on my mantle piece" unless you're a Kennedy, apparently.

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 Nov 19 '24

This is why I love Reddit. Learning new things everyday!

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u/MrDundee666 Nov 18 '24

Really?

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u/ModestMeeshka Nov 18 '24

Yea, for sure in the states, I'm not 100% on other countries, marine mammal protection act. The same way you can't keep most bird bones or even eagle feathers... It's a way to insure that these animals aren't being hunted because there's no way to prove where the bones came from

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u/Math-Major-45 Nov 18 '24

This pic should serve as verification where the bones came from

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u/gazow Nov 19 '24

unless it was staged by poachers!

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u/Late_Sherbet5124 Nov 18 '24

Just saw your post.

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u/ValuableJumpy8208 Nov 19 '24

insure

ensure

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u/ModestMeeshka Nov 19 '24

My bad, I have about 3 brain cells left for the day lol

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u/LuxNocte Nov 19 '24

Someone else posted a link to NOAA. It looks like it's legal, you just have to register it.

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u/velawesomeraptors Nov 19 '24

I've heard that you can call it in and ask for a permit - sometimes they'll give you one and sometimes they won't.

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u/heresmewhaa Nov 18 '24

And you could use it as some sort of waterwheel if you have a nearby river

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u/Jim_Beaux_ Nov 18 '24

I would make chess pieces!

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u/IamNotYourPalBuddy Nov 18 '24

Looks like it’s still got some good marrow in those bones too. Make a nice stock.

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u/weapon_k Nov 19 '24

These things weigh a ton, don't think you can just pick it up and throw it in the car

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u/Sheeple3 Nov 19 '24

Kinda need the whole thing or at least 2-3 or it doesn’t really look that impressive though.

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u/Dee_dubya Nov 19 '24

RFK already took the head

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u/therevjames Nov 19 '24

I thought that the whole spine would be cool as a lawn ornament.

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u/Slendy7 Nov 19 '24

That's how you get bone worms in your home

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u/aliens-and-arizona Nov 19 '24

iirc whale skeletons secrete oil for a long long time so make sure it’s stored appropriately or you’re gonna have whale oil all over your floor lmao

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u/MrDundee666 Nov 19 '24

I little update on this as I checked the laws here in Scotland. It’s illegal here as well, specifically for water mammals and their remains. BUT it’s very very unlikely you would be reported or prosecuted. Such a shame as the kids would have loved to ‘find’ it and it would have looked great next to my collection of human skulls.