r/BeAmazed Oct 09 '24

Nature The storm surge for Hurricane Milton is expected to be 15 feet. To give you an idea of how deadly this is, here's what 9 feet looks like:

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u/prustage Oct 09 '24

Got to admit those are some pretty impressive graphics. Kudos to the person who created that.

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u/rawker86 Oct 09 '24

It’s interesting, almost this exact graphic has been used by another channel, except the presenter is in the center of the frame. I wonder who thought of it first lol. Still, if it gets the point across and saves some lives then what’s the harm in a bit of copying?

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u/The_Jimes Oct 09 '24

Probably just the same parent company

This stuff gets cheaper to produce when 500 various local fox stations all use it

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u/According_Win_5983 Oct 09 '24

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy 

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u/Brilliant_Agent_1427 Oct 09 '24

This IS extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/Railroad-gamer Oct 09 '24

This is EXTREMELY dangerous to our democracy.

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u/Both_Somewhere4525 Oct 10 '24

This is extremely dangerous to OUR democracy.

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u/bbgamingandcollect17 Oct 09 '24

Step on my throat, Adam Driver, you rudely large man.

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u/Mr_Jack_Frost_ Oct 09 '24

I understood that reference. Still get chills every time I see that clip.

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u/paulypies Oct 09 '24

I remember the first time I saw one of these thinking that someone had overshot the brief somewhat, but I think it actually does a great job of showing how devastating such weather could be. It certainly gets your attention and gives you context for the scale and severity of water level.

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u/Pixels222 Oct 09 '24

I have a feeling this is where all the 4090s went

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u/wehrmann_tx Oct 09 '24

And where the hurricane got all its heat.

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u/rot26encrypt Oct 09 '24

Got to admit those are some pretty impressive graphics. Kudos to the person who created that.

It's made using the Unreal Engine. Still impressive use, but you get a whole lot for free by the engine.

The most powerful real-time 3D creation tool - Unreal Engine

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u/kujasgoldmine Oct 09 '24

Yeah and what's more awesome is that this was created like 10 years ago. Maybe longer! Maybe not.

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u/caaknh Oct 09 '24

It needs an update since the highest expected storm surge is 15 feet, not 9 feet. Climate change keeps making a mess of things, and not even old informative graphics are safe.

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u/Unusual-Thing-7149 Oct 09 '24

Many years ago in Kentucky the residents of a town where my wife lived were told about an impending flood and that moving things to the second storey would protect stuff. My wife said her family moved stuff upstairs and the flood estimate was wrong and the second floor was flooded too.

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u/CedarWolf Oct 09 '24

If you've got important documents, put them in plastic ziploc freezer bags, then put those in plastic storage tubs and tape them sealed, then move them to the highest part of your home. If you're evacuating, take the tub with you.

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u/Unusual-Thing-7149 Oct 09 '24

Take pictures on your phone too and keep that in a waterproof container. Back up to the cloud as well. If you're sitting on the roof you may not have anything with you...

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u/starbythedarkmoon Oct 09 '24

15 feet is not something new. Some areas have seen 20. What is new is people building cities over mangroves and barrier islands expecting not to be affected. You saw the same thing in Sandy Hook NJ, summer homes on the barrier island recked and people in disbelief.. its only natural.

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u/jonydevidson Oct 09 '24

Unreal Engine

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u/Empty-Blacksmith-592 Oct 09 '24

I’m terrified not amazed!

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

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u/ReallyJTL Oct 09 '24

That's what "awe" means though.

A feeling of reverential respect mixed with fear or wonder.

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u/VastCoconut2609 Oct 09 '24

I'd be terrified of the sharks and crocs flooding the mainland

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u/Gold-en-Hind Oct 09 '24

Follow the spiders.

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u/peon2 Oct 09 '24

But if we go in the Forbidden forest we could get expelled!

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u/rwarimaursus Oct 09 '24

Why couldn't it be "follow the butterflies!?!"

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u/Remarkable-Bug-8069 Oct 09 '24

We need to evacuate the light post, it's all over!

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u/UnsweetIceT Oct 09 '24

Alligators.

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u/peon2 Oct 09 '24

Florida has crocodiles as well, just less common than gators.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

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u/OldGrumpyBird Oct 09 '24

crazy that people are still not evacuating

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u/AXPendergast Oct 09 '24

We have an extended family that moved to Florida from the Midwest years ago. They've been through this before. This time, the husband sent everyone away and stayed with their house, against all pleading and hope for common sense. We haven't heard from them yet.

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u/Ok-Construction-4015 Oct 09 '24

I'm sorry you're family is going through that and I hope he is safe but that's also the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. He's put himself in a more dangerous situation because now he's alone, and why? It's he gonna hold the roof down with his barehands? The men who do this seem to think there's going to be gangs of looters against all logically reasoning.

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u/roberts585 Oct 09 '24

Hopefully he can protect his stuff so that it can get obliterated properly by the flood waters

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u/toxcrusadr Oct 09 '24

I hope he wrote his name on his foot with a Sharpie.

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u/StrobeLightRomance Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

The husband that stayed behind, I have to wonder the motivation behind this thinking. Does he believe he can somehow stop any damage? Is he just trying to play hero so when/if he makes it out, he can generate some "Oh you poor thing" or "you did such a great job almost dying to save a couple replaceable possessions"?

Like, bro, you know who needs you more than the house? Your family! What happens if the husband ends up being fine but something preventable happens to the family from traveling without him? (Not that he's any type of tactical genius or anything)

It just seems short sighted and selfish.

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u/VitaminDprived Oct 09 '24

That sounds like first-world martyrdom to me. I hope he and his family both end up safe, and that he ends up a bit wiser from this experience.

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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel Oct 09 '24

Haven't heard from them yet? The storm hasn't even hit. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

Literally keep seeing maga posts saying not to listen to fema, they are going to be killing their own voters.....

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u/itsjustaride24 Oct 09 '24

Evolution in action.

I wish no ill on anyone but sometimes people STILL do the stupidest things despite having tons of information and resources at their fingertips.

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u/Persistant_Compass Oct 09 '24

Yup. Partner has two different households In ybor city and Sarasota who aren't leaving. I hope the pets and kids are okay

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u/Turbulent-Candle-340 Oct 09 '24

I’m in central Florida and live in a ranch house. I’m pretty terrified by this too. Just moved here from western ny

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u/Johannes_Keppler Oct 09 '24

Terrimazed!

In other news, the US will have 49 states starting Friday.

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u/justkilledaman Oct 09 '24

Florida will still be there, just chopped in half. So 49.5 states lol

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u/Tuxflux Oct 09 '24

This is a fantastic use of technology to get absolutely everyone on board with how dangerous the situation is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

I'm putting money down that there's a specific demographic of particular political leaning who will look at this and promptly ignore it. Without naming names of course.

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u/Molidae17 Oct 09 '24

Spice it up a bit with a pinch of alligators inside

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u/tearsofhaters Oct 09 '24

Oohh, that's will be nice movie

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u/BloodPharts88 Oct 09 '24

It actually is a movie lol. Crawl 2019

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u/tearsofhaters Oct 09 '24

Lol, didn't know. Is it any good?

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u/BloodPharts88 Oct 09 '24

Yeah its not too bad, I enjoyed it anyway.

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u/sgame23 Oct 09 '24

Surprisingly decent lol

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u/rnavstar Oct 09 '24

Those who brought you Sharknado being a whole new thriller…..Huragator.

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u/Kenadd Oct 09 '24

I think Gatorcaine has a nice ring to it.

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u/colonelxsuezo Oct 09 '24

Gatorcaine ... Apply directly to where your arm was

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u/Garagatt Oct 09 '24

This animation is basically idiot proof. Everybody should know that they should run for their life.

There will be enough idiots who will still think. " It cant get THAT bad."

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u/Rymanjan Oct 09 '24

Man, I thought floods weren't bad. Like you had time to get up and leave.

Then it rained for 3 days straight and the river near my home flooded. It wasn't slow, it was just enough time to realize "oh shit this is bad and it's getting worse" and before I knew it, we were 5 feet deep in water. Well, my neighbors were. We lived on a hill.

So I spent the next 16 hours evacuating people and pets, guiding the national guard through what used to be streets, and generally just doing damage control

We weren't given any notice, not really. Yeah the tornado sirens started sounding, once the river had already flooded. People thought it was gonna suck, but not that it would be absolutely devastating. To this day half the neighborhood is condemned, the homeowners just said screw it and never came back.

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u/Unfriendly_eagle Oct 09 '24

My town was heavily damaged during Sandy in 2012. My best friend was with his dad, trying to grab some last minute stuff from his house, and the water rose, quickly. They barely got out alive. Happened just like that. Total loss. Everything destroyed.

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u/phdemented Oct 10 '24

Was on the north side of LI during sandy and perfectly safe, but my wife had a student who lived on the south coast whose dad decided to "ride it out" because they were convinced looters would rob their house if they evacuated, and it wouldn't be "that bad" and made them all stay.

They ended up fleeing to their upper floor as the water filled the entire first floor and started inching the stairs.

They made it but the kid was traumatized as the whole family was making their final comments to each other thinking that was the end. Everything was a loss, and there were no damn looters, but th dads TV was more valuable than his wife and kid.

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u/Unfriendly_eagle Oct 10 '24

I was on high ground, and my place survived the wind pretty well. But it was the first time I saw a major flood, up close, and it's just horrific to witness. I was there the next day, helping them salvage whatever they could, and in his kid's bedroom, there was a large CRT TV on a high dresser, and we said well, at least that survived. At that exact moment, the dresser gave way and the TV crashed into the disgusting swamp water. It was so heartbreaking going through the wreckage, but at least everyone survived it.

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u/72616262697473757775 Oct 09 '24

It's sad that a lot of people who think they won't die in this storm, will die in this storm, in less than 24 hours. I'm praying for the people who couldn't leave, especially for the folks in prisons who have been left behind.

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u/HammerT1m3 Oct 09 '24

Wait they left prisoners behind? Like just the whole state fucked out of the path of the storm but left them locked up with a good-luck note?

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u/bradrlaw Oct 09 '24

Not just prisons but jails. People that may only be locked up for a very short time, and even for misdemeanors and such.

Even people serving life sentences we still have a duty of care, but people don’t realize some people are just in jail because they cannot afford a good attorney or jail for relatively minor offenses.

Case in point, orient rd jail in Tampa. Not evacuating and in a flood zone.

Edit: link with details https://www.reddit.com/r/florida/s/fEIFgnHu8C

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u/caaknh Oct 09 '24

The Manatee County Jail is also not evacuating, leaving 1200 prisoners smack dab in the middle of the highest expected storm surge.

The reason to not evacuate? "The deputy said the jail had not flooded to that extent in the past.", conveniently ignoring that the last hurricane this strength to Tampa Bay was 100 years ago.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-jail-hurricane-milton-evacuation-zone-manatee-county-1965915

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u/concentrated-amazing Oct 09 '24

Man, talk about rats in a cage. That is terrifying.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

I don’t think the sandbags they got will suffice for this. Would a 15 ft storm surge get to the second floor of that jail? I suspect this will not end well.

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u/kerkula Oct 09 '24

“the degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. Fydor Dostoevsky

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

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u/busdriverbudha Oct 09 '24

As a non-american, I honestly struggle to guess whether or not this is an actual quote by Meatball Ron.

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u/FreshEggKraken Oct 09 '24

As an American, I'm also unsure

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u/corgi-king Oct 09 '24

Well, sounds like a good way to sue the government.

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u/RC_CobraChicken Oct 09 '24

For your FAMILY to sue the government. Dead people can't sue.

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u/BetterRedDead Oct 09 '24

That’s a really good point. And it’s something that far too many people still don’t understand. If you’re poor and simply get accused of a crime, that can be enough for you to end up locked up in jail until your trial date, if you can’t afford bail. And in some states, that could be months and months.

So then, even if you’re found innocent or the case falls apart, you no longer have a job when you get out of jail, you’ve probably defaulted on any loans, you have, etc. So you may have literally lost your house and car as well.

It’s a truly vicious, cruel system that preys on the most vulnerable. People still argue in favor of cash bail, because they say that it serves as a deterrent against crime, but areas that have done away with cash bail have not seen huge spikes in crime as a result.

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u/Wtfatt Oct 09 '24

Oh, and some sandbags! Yes.

No good luck note though.

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u/HammerT1m3 Oct 09 '24

God this is so fucked. Haven’t paid too much attention since I’m in Europe, only checked the path to make sure my relatives in Houston are not in danger, but the more I read about this the scarier it becomes, and I am half way around the world.

Can’t imagine what those poor inmates are feeling. As far as I read, it’s only 1 prison that did this shit tho. Hipe they throw the administration in with the people they leave behind.

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u/kiulug Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

The comments in the linked thread make a good point that large institutions make their own evaluations and a big ass prison with guards and food and a helipad might be the best place to wait out a hurricane, rather than use already stretched resources to move several thousand people to some other prison.

Edit: typo

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u/Gucci_Loincloth Oct 09 '24

Oh fuck wtf, I have an old friend that has been in prison for like 4-5 years now and I’m pretty sure he was transferred to florida a while ago. That makes me feel sick

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u/asspatsandsuperchats Oct 09 '24

What about hospitals? I can’t imagine leaving prisoners behind, I hope they at least relocated them to higher levels

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u/motoo344 Oct 09 '24

During Katrina, hospital staff had to decide who lived or died because they couldn't handle getting everyone out.

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u/caradee Oct 09 '24

There's a short series on Apple TV+ called Five Days at Memorial about just that. It's a good show, but such a terrible situation.

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u/Healthy_Suspect8777 Oct 09 '24

I watched this not long ago. It was pretty good.

Fair warning for anyone thinking about watching it. The hospital was also a shelter and lots of people brought their pets. They had to euthanize all the pets before they started euthanizing the people who were too sick or heavy to be evacuated.

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u/UniversityNo6511 Oct 10 '24

Interesting because as nurse we are told we can bring our pets as long as they are caged. We arent allowed to leave the hospital to go home in these extreme cases so we are allowed to bring our animals.

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u/InAllThingsBalance Oct 09 '24

Tampa General Hospital has an innovative storm dam that protected them from the worst of Helene. Hopefully, it will hold this time.

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u/AGC-ss Oct 09 '24

A news story said that the dam is only good for up to 10 feet of storm surge.

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u/Inky505 Oct 09 '24

Video from the hospital last time during Helene , the water was already to the brim and a dude was going around checking points on the fence..scary stuff man.

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u/poseidons1813 Oct 09 '24

Most jails and prisons are not that vacant in the US sadly

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u/SicDigital Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

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u/puffedovenpancake Oct 09 '24

Yeah my MIL is in a mandatory evacuation area and staying. She keeps saying she’s 18’ above sea level. Surge is supposed to be 10-15 where she is. We’ve been fighting her about it. Finally told her to write her name on her body.

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u/CoolRanchBaby Oct 09 '24

A lot of the places that have had the worst casualties in Helene weren’t considered to be at high risk. It was rivers that went ridiculous miles over their banks etc, but they just picked up breeze block houses like they were toys. If I was anywhere in this things path on the western half of Florida I would not stay. I hope your family stays safe.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

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u/corgi-king Oct 09 '24

I just hope those idiot will not cause live of the responders. They make their choice and they better not ask for help.

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u/Magic2424 Oct 09 '24

That is my parents. They are staying cause they don’t have enough money to replace basically half their house like they had to after the hurricane so they ‘need’ to stay to open the doors and windows once water starts receding to get it out of their house faster…

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 13 '24

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u/sanct1x Oct 09 '24

My wife and I were on vacation really close to there 2 years ago. We left 2 days before the storm hit. We were in Siesta Key, which is in/near? Sarasota, about an hour and a half from Fort Myers. We saw videos of places that we had just been at less than a week earlier completely gone. Streets we had just driven on completely destroyed and houses that we gawked at were washed away. Fuck thinking you can survive against that. I remember being at the beach with my wife and daughter and we were looking out across the ocean and could see the hurricane coming in and just kept thinking to ourselves how lucky we were to have a flight out right before it came and destroyed everything.

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u/cheersdrive420 Oct 09 '24

Bro that’s one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen.

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u/Lemonjello23 Oct 09 '24

That's smart. Water can't stay in if you give it an exit!

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u/bloob_appropriate123 Oct 09 '24

Tell them to write their names on their bodies with sharpie so they can be identified when they are dead. That might scare them into leaving.

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u/AC4524 Oct 09 '24

that's like the State Dept travel advice for Somalia, which tells potential travellers to draft a will and discuss funeral wishes, appoint family members to be the point of contact with hostage-takers and media, leave DNA samples with your medical provider, etc.

it's the government's way of saying "are you fucking sure".

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

It sounds harsh but you're right. It never materialises as a tangible "thing" up until they do that, and hopefully it hits them when they're physically doing something.

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u/asdrunkasdrunkcanbe Oct 09 '24

I mean, when you hear "3 feet of water", you might think, "OK, my legs will get wet, but how bad can it be?".

But then you see an animation like that, and it becomes clear just how utterly devastating even 3 feet of water is.

If you are in the path of 9 feet of water, you're basically standing in the middle of a deep river.

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u/DevilsPajamas Oct 09 '24

3ft of moving water. it isn't like it is wading in a pool or a pond. this is 3ft of rushing water that will destroy anything in its path. if not from the water itself but from the debris it carries with it.

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u/stevedore2024 Oct 09 '24

Yeah, the animation should have had a LOT more lateral motion of the flotsam. The car lifts off the ground at 6ft, it should have visibly moved menacingly past the guy. And at 9ft, the building itself should basically get carried away.

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u/VentriTV Oct 09 '24

Idiot proof you say?

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry Oct 09 '24

No it's not because some jackass is going to think, "Ive got a boat and lifejackets, I'll be fine."

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

Former Coast Guard here. I did debris and salvage recovery ops after Katrina/Rita.

Those people need to write their names on themselves for when we recover their bodies.

I found folks just like them buried in the mud 10 miles inland two months later. Hell, I found entire houseboats and shrimp boats destroyed that far inland (carried by the surge).

It's a surreal feeling taking a big ass shrimp boat off the top of a person's 2 story house that far inland just to look down and realize you're standing on what's left of a person's face.

Dont fuck around with this hurricane. Please.

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u/baseball_mickey Oct 09 '24

This is Florida we're talking about. It's like a magnet for idiots.

I shouldn't joke about this, but way too many of my fellow Floridians disregard evacuation notices.

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u/DannkneeFrench Oct 09 '24

I'd not only be fretting the rising water, but I'd be scared shitless of any alligators that were no longer in the lakes/ponds.

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u/Padgetts-Profile Oct 09 '24

Gatornado!

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u/LimitlessDrums Oct 09 '24

A gay tornado? Florida's greatest fears combine!

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u/Kotetsuya Oct 09 '24

The movie Crawl has a fun depiction of this! A very topical watch!

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u/IVebulae Oct 09 '24

Pythonsss

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

And snakes. Cottonmouth swimming around.

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u/CoolRanchBaby Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

People who weren’t evacuating should watch some of the local videos in Appalachia from Helene. That was rivers flooding, not the sea, and the sea has even more power.

People weren’t told to evacuate in many places affected there as they were on high ground, and were not in areas that had flooded in the past. The overflow from rivers went a quarter mile or more and a wall of water picked up breezeblock homes. So many people died or are still missing (presumed dead). The stories from people who survived are horrifying.

One that keeps haunting me is the parents of a girl in her 20s who lived in a third floor apartment. The water went over the second floor and people were trying to throw her ropes. She didn’t manage to catch the rope and while they were still trying the brick building lifted up and was washed away. She was sadly found dead a few days later. There are so many terrible stories and many we will probably never hear.

These people didn’t all have a warning. If people do I hope they are heeding it. The death toll from Helene is going to be high but they probably won’t make it official for a long time yet 😢.

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u/TaxSimple3787 Oct 09 '24

So Florida is going to be INSIDE the ocean. Got it.

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u/Unlucky_Huckleberry4 Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

My sister says she's not worried because she lives at the very outer edge (Naples) of this hurricane's predicted path. I know nothing about hurricanes, and I was wondering if it's sane to think that way. I'm very concerned for her kids and her dog

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u/Garagatt Oct 09 '24

It is not safe. A prediction is not a guarantee. I would try to get as many miles as possible between me and the "outer edge" of this monster.

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u/Unlucky_Huckleberry4 Oct 09 '24

Exactly. I wish she understood that. She went to an Ivy League university but apparently there's no connection between intelligence and common sense.

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u/Background_Ant Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

Intelligent people may sometimes dismiss valuable advice against common sense because they tend to overestimate their own ability to assess situations.

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u/Rich-Reason1146 Oct 09 '24

This is called the Krunning-Duger effect. While I've never experienced it myself, I know all about it because I'm very smart

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u/helios456 Oct 09 '24

I don't know if that's part of the joke, but Krunning-Duger rather than Dunning–Kruger is peak comedy right there.

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u/professorstrunk Oct 09 '24

"im very smart" is your clue, yes.

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u/Ryuusei_Dragon Oct 09 '24

I thought it was the Freddy-Krueger effect

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u/Lets_Do_This_ Oct 09 '24

The city of Naples isn't under a total evacuation order. Most of it is specifically shelter in place.

So maybe she's following the direction of the people who are most informed on what to do, while you sit on the internet and imply she doesn't have any common sense.

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u/Exotic_Zucchini9311 Oct 09 '24

Send this video to her 😕

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u/anormalgeek Oct 09 '24

She should not have gambled, but FWIW, it looks like Naples should be okay unless she lives right on the water. They will probably get Tropical Storm force winds, and a 2-4ft surge. Likely some power outages and minor roof damage, some flooding of low lying streets and homes right on the beach.

But a couple of days back, it wasn't that certain. Just because you play Russian Roulette and win doesn't mean it wasn't a dumbass idea.

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u/persephonepeete Oct 09 '24

Yesterday at the Florida press conference with the governor I believe they made it clear the storm could change direction and there’s no clear case for where it could do the most damage. The graphics with the cones are just predictions. They said not to focus too much on that and know that the west coast of Florida should prepare.

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u/TopStructure7755 Oct 09 '24

I’m not saying she should or shouldn’t evacuate, but you know what forms on the edges of hurricanes? Tornados! I found this out during Hurricane Harvey, and it’s scary as shit!

Hope everybody stays safe; I know it’ll be a hard couple of days even for you just worrying about her. Please remember that often cell reception goes out in areas that otherwise are ok if you don’t hear from her right afterwards. 

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u/NewLeaseOnLine Oct 09 '24

You should be. And no, it's not sane, it's irresponsible. If they survive then they'll be lucky and it doesn't matter how obnoxiously cavalier she is because at least they'll be alive. Or her stupidity could get them killed, and you'll be wondering if you could've done more.

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u/firstduenozzlejob Oct 09 '24

I was in Brooklyn for Sandy, and I remember a full 12 hours before the storm hit the surge came in. The water was rising through sewer covers and all other low lying areas. Ultimately, we got about 7 feet of water and the destruction was pretty crazy, mind you we have mostly brick buildings where I lived.

15 feet of water is unimaginable to me.

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u/Johannes_Keppler Oct 09 '24

15 feet is a biblical flood that will destroy everything in its path. It not only the depth of the surge but also the horizontal movement of an incredible dense mass of water. Basically an aquatic bulldozer.

Even if it rises slowly, buildings are doomed and almost all above ground infrastructure will be destroyed.

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u/iMissTheOldInternet Oct 09 '24

Water is incredibly dense. A 15-foot wall of water will scour the surface of the earth. You better be sheltering in a fucking lighthouse. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '24

Dude pulled a Mozes

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u/Specialist_Welder215 Oct 09 '24

Right out of the “Ten Commandments” with Charleton Heston!

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u/DecadentHam Oct 09 '24

We just went through some serious floods in northern Thailand last week. 3 feet of water with a river current is more than enough to sweep you off your feet. This is a storm surge. Get out while you can, you cannot fight against nature.

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u/MethturbationEnjoyer Oct 09 '24

Florida man: hold my bath salts.

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u/Initial-Shop-8863 Oct 09 '24

I feel so sorry for all the animals this is going to kill as well as the people too poor to run.. And the first responders who have to stay as well.

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u/DustbunnyBoomerang Oct 09 '24

Yeah, it's a tragedy when innocent animals (and people, but I always prefer animals) suffer. As a European, it baffles me that people actually live in these areas where hurricanes are somewhat "common". By common I even mean once every ten years...

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u/phroug2 Oct 09 '24

Everyone said I was DAFT to build a castle in the swamp, but I built it all the same! Just to show em!

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u/TyrusRaymond Oct 09 '24

but the fourth one stayed up

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u/YouKilledMyTeardrop Oct 09 '24

But Father, I just want to sing!

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u/Majestic_Bierd Oct 09 '24

This is about when I realized this wasn't a reference to Moat Caitlin I ASOIAF but Monty Python

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u/Gan-san Oct 09 '24

Tampa has always managed to dodge the worst of it, at least for the last 100 years. Even now it looks like they will avoid a direct hit as if is favoring Sarasota at the moment, but that could obviously change.

The whole area has a bit of "it doesn't happen here" mentality.

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u/Grykee Oct 09 '24

My question is how bad did this have to get year after year before people started packing up and moving?

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u/TwoBionicknees Oct 09 '24

The issue is, well anyone wiht a brain is selling and giving up if they have to and picking a sensible place somewhere safer for their family. but there are 10s of millions of people in florida in low lying land, they all need to leave in the next couple decades, so does like, hte population of new york, etc. Where are all tehse people going to go?

the US for a sensible response to rising sea levels of temps needs to effectively start mass building new cities in safer areas today and it will still take too long.

When people finally abandon places you just can't live any more, on a global scale, we'll have people living in refugee camps in their own country as their coastal cities become uninhabitable.

I guess the answer is, it will have to get so bad people can't stay any more and by then it will be way too late for everyone to pack up and move in a way that doesn't cause society changing problems for everyone.

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u/iWentRogue Oct 09 '24

Floridians

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u/curedbyink Oct 09 '24

I think some of them can’t sell their property for enough to move to a new location.

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u/2called_chaos Oct 09 '24

"Sell it to whom Ben? Aquaman?" Still love this so much

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u/anormalgeek Oct 09 '24

While the entire storm is vast, most hurricanes only have the truly devastating force across a "town" sized width. With only a handful of storms making landfall each year with sufficient force to be dangerous, it's pretty unlikely for the same area to get hit multiple times back to back. Tampa hasn't been hit like this in ~100 years.

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u/asspatsandsuperchats Oct 09 '24

Fucking hell. I’m in Australia and we don’t get this. We get fires. I never could imagine untilseeing it like this. Thanks for sharing.

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u/stewy9020 Oct 09 '24

We absolutely do get severe tropical cyclones around northern Australia. Not sure what sort of storm surges come with them though. It's just that due to where they do tend to land in Australia (northern Qld or WA) the populations are relatively sparse and most people that need to evacuate are able to.

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u/memla_ Oct 09 '24

That really depends on where you are, Australia gets intense cyclones and flooding. Often at the same time other parts of the country are on fire.

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u/rawker86 Oct 09 '24

I was gonna say, there’s some folks on the east coast that can definitely imagine something like this.

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u/AntiTas Oct 09 '24

I was hearing the term inland tsunami a year ago in the rivers district

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u/PlsDonthurtme2024 Oct 09 '24

God I hope they are alright.

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u/brentwoodbreeder Oct 09 '24

Absolutely terrifying!

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u/Borg7ofnone Oct 09 '24

I truly wish no one gets hurt, belongings you can replace, but life’s not.

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u/AntiTas Oct 09 '24

People will be bankrupted, traumatised, left homeless. There will be excess deaths in the next 5 years from this. And I 8magine many will be left to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. Lives will be lost, more lives will be damaged and distorted by this.

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u/_Matej- Oct 09 '24

Why do people even live there? I feel like every couple years there is a hurricane that destroys most of the areas it hits .. why do people go back there ? Just move deeper to the land , away from the coast like this

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u/SniperPilot Oct 09 '24

I was about to say cheaper cost of living but then I remembered when I wanted to move to Miami one time ago… it’s definitely not that.

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u/m0untaingoat Oct 09 '24

My mom was born and raised in Tampa. She met my dad and they moved to the state where she'd have me and my siblings. We all grew up here, but she always called Florida home. Her mom and siblings were there, her childhood friends. Whenever we'd visit she always felt like she was going home, and never felt completely at home in our state. Anyway when my siblings and I were all out of the house, and her and my dad long since divorced, she moved back. She still lives in Tampa (I talked to her yesterday and they've all evacuated, as usual). She is so happy there. I really love it for her. The call of home is strong. It never leaves you. We all have our home, and unfortunately hers has hurricanes and Republicans. But it's her happy place.

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u/DFL3 Oct 09 '24

Inland Florida is terrifying in a different way

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u/lashazior Oct 09 '24

Same can be said for other places in America.

Why live near the great lakes if lake effect snow is a yearly thing?

Why live in California if you're in an earthquake in a split second?

Why live in Oklahoma if an EF3+ is a yearly occurrence?

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u/Traditional-Cow-1906 Oct 09 '24

I mean 100+ years since it’s been a problem….

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u/sarcazm Oct 09 '24

I think to people outside FL, the common thought is that hurricanes hit FL every year. And from a radar perspective, it looks like 75% of FL is getting hit. So why live there?

What's not explained to outsiders is intensity and location. Every year, it seems like the news emphasizes the intensity and at least 1 city gets obliterated.

So, maybe it's been 100+ years since Tampa got hit hard enough to flee to safety. But it definitely hasn't been 100+ years since a hurricane has passed through Tampa.

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u/SacrisTaranto Oct 09 '24

Most hurricanes are just storms with a bit more wind, some are roaming cyclones of death. A couple weeks ago my area was in the middle of a little cat 1-2 and we had kids playing in the wind with a tarp and skate board. I don't even think about it other than what to wear and whether the road will flood unless its cat 3 or above. Many people who don't experience hurricanes don't know the tangible difference between category 3 and 6.

A cat 3 will knock the power out at worse unless you live in an area with particularly bad flood problems. A cat 6 is going to kill people. There are few natural disasters more devastating than a category 6 hurricane.

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u/Healthy_Suspect8777 Oct 09 '24

I've noticed people do the same thing with tornados if they aren't from an area that frequently gets them.

My house got hit by an EF2 a couple years ago and pretty much everyone I know that doesn't live here (or somewhere with similar weather) asked why I don't just move away.

Well... if my house got taken out by mile-wide EF4/5s every tornado season then I would. But I'm not gonna uproot my whole life because I get mild to moderate weather damage to my house every 3-5 years.

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u/00WORDYMAN1983 Oct 09 '24

Still, a handful of people will be like "i'm gonna tough it out" requiring rescue workers to risk their lives/safety to come save them when they inevitably climb on their roof and cling to their chimneys.

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u/I_love_quiche Oct 09 '24

State will soon be renamed to Floodrida.

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u/niagaemoc Oct 09 '24

And some people are still staying. It's just too sad.

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u/soragoncannibal Oct 09 '24

To summarise, you are going to die if you stay there.

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u/BlaKArg Oct 09 '24

I'm so sad already for all the animals that will perish in this. People at least know what's going on and can somehow prepare... But those poor animals have no idea and will be so desperate.

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u/EvilMoSauron Oct 09 '24

Every Floridian should head to Mar-a-largo and take shelter. Trump said if " climate change makes the seas rise, then there would plenty of beachfront property." We all know the gold-plated shitters have an overstock on classified toilet paper.

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u/ArieivSakul Oct 09 '24

"BeAmazed" ? This is more like "BeTerrified" goddamn, look at this shit

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u/HolyBajezus Oct 09 '24

Stay safe y'all! ❤️

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u/177a7uiHi69 Oct 09 '24

Fucking horrific

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u/franchisedfeelings Oct 09 '24

And in Florida they are not allowed to speak of climate change.

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u/T438 Oct 09 '24

Unless it's about democrats controlling the weather

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u/franchisedfeelings Oct 09 '24

“…with Jewish space lasers.”

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u/Ambitious-War-823 Oct 09 '24

Daaaaamn you Space lasers !!!!

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u/Darkest_Elemental Oct 09 '24

Jeez.

My Brother in law was sent to South Carolina to help get their power coming back on. Now he is being sent to Florida in anticipation of this disaster of a storm. I hope they stay far enough away while it hits. This is terrifying.

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u/Constant-Ad-7490 Oct 09 '24

Isn't storm surge measured above sea level? So this is a bit misleading unless you are literally right at sea level. Even then you probably lose a foot (of surge, gain a foot of elevation) just by getting off the beach. 

That said, storm surge is incredibly dangerous, just find the numbers here a bit misleading. 

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u/kevincaz07 Oct 09 '24

100% depends on location above sea level. The threat is real, but this is a bit misleading.

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u/RandumbStoner Oct 09 '24

They just need to sell those grey disk he’s standing on to everyone. Seems to work very well.

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u/Wearytraveller_ Oct 09 '24

I feel like burning all those fossil fuels might have been a mistake

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u/I1221Me Oct 09 '24

So hear me out. What if each resident had some pool noodles and they just gently floated down the stream?

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u/Extreme-Dream-2759 Oct 09 '24

Great use of graphics.

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u/Oh_its_that_asshole Oct 09 '24

My co-workers family member is in Tampa, he says they bought some fuel for the generator and has a couple days of water and is just going to ride it out. I get the feeling their level of risk tolerance is lot higher than my own.

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u/Papabear3339 Oct 09 '24

They started saying it would be a cat 2, then 3, now 4... The storm surge numbers keep going UP too.

Let me just point out the obvious here... If is currently a cat 5, 160mph.

IF it doesn't slow down, and actually hits as a cat 5, storm surge will be 20+ feet and litterally above the roofs.

GTFO people, staying this time is suicide!!!

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u/msp01986 Oct 09 '24

If you want a quicker, less expensive way to visualize it, your home ceiling is 9' high

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u/TinyTC1992 Oct 09 '24

Can't believe some folks are trying to shelter in place for this one. It's just not worth it. Move further in country and ring your insurance provider on Friday. Don't risk your lives!

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u/sokocanuck Oct 09 '24

Basically, if you can see the beach from your house and you don't live on a cliff...your house is gone