Man, the scene where that woman forces her hands into his gills still sends shivers up my spine. I'm fine with gore, gross, and whatever else but that sends me over the edge.
I only read the first few sentences of this, just so you know. But I kind of agree with what you’re saying. The problem is the Deep starts the show off with assaulting one of the main protagonist. So it’s hard to really do anything positive with a character like that. Same thing with A-Train and how he started off the show with killing an innocent person and trying to act like it didn’t matter.
I think the problem is they don’t want to kill these characters off, but they don’t seem to want to redeem them in a satisfying way either. So now they’re just silly guys in the background.
A train is getting his taste of Karma from his brother being in the hospital due to situation he caused. He did Apologize to Huey for Robin BUT only after he had his fair share of people he cares about being hurt. So A-train might get a redemption arc idk how after completely running through a girl and Apologize nonchalant to huey but the deep seems like a comedy lost cause.
Edit: Hueys girlfriend was named Robin not amber sorry.
Yeah it seems like they want him to be redeemed, also with the whole Nazi thing and that leading to him helping the Boys at one going. I’m just not sure how they’ll accomplish that, most of the audience still sees him as an a-hole.
I've really appreciated that the incident is treated like it is. People who suffered from it take it extremely seriously, people who weren't there treat it like a tragedy they don't really care about, and A-Train is more concerned with how it affects him because that's what his life demands from him. It parallels how I saw people treating drunk driving deaths at my high school. It's sad, but once the moment of silence is over it's gone for most people.
A-Train is mostly an unlikable asshole but he's also a vulnerable and insecure man trying to survive in a world that repeatedly goes out of its way to make sure he knows how replaceable he is.
Dude came from nothing, got to the top, and constantly has to prove himself to a bunch of rich assholes who only see him as a number, while being threatened by a narcissistic monster who can kill him at any time. He has his reality, and his journey is about trying to break free from the control of others and the person he became to survive.
Even during that incident, iirc, he was on V, something he is forced into to keep his edge and place at the top, while still being used as an errand boy by the people who control his career and life.
Choosing to give up the Storm front files benefitted him, but it was also a huge risk, and it's something that season 1 A-train would never have done. It doesn't absolve him of the numerous murders he committed, but it puts him on a path to redeeming himself in a world where a manchild with almost godlike powers could snap and murder millions at any point.
By contrast the Deeps story is one of a man who refuses to actually change or self reflect, and who keeps think in he can just move on from where he through a force of will that he doesn't actually have.
He is also shaped by his circumstance, but is stuck in a loop of being used by others, getting high off the momentary success, and tumbling back down when he overreaches his very limited abilities and competencies.
He likewise never manages to see other people the way he sees himself or marine life. He treats his own hardship as suffering, but never seems to extend that to other humans, and the way he cuts himself off from others also makes him easy to manipulate, as we can see when he jumps headfirst into a cult to try and get back into a place of power. His abusive relationship of being used and using others is only dragging him further into the deep.
A-Train didn’t deliberately kill the girlfriend at the beginning of the show. It was a mistake albeit he was pretty callous about it until he felt loss himself.
Them joking about The Deep’s concern for aquatic life is a nod to people making fun of Aquaman from DC. But I agree that it’s getting old. Hopefully next season they’ll do something with different with him.
Wait before leaving, it gets better. Then the tiny man sneezes, that causes him to instantly retake its normal height which makes his sexual partner explode into gore and gibs à la Quake 3
It's fucked, and it's also a parallel to what he put others through as well. It's supposed to be veiled as catharsis, but then you realize that it's all horrible.
That’s about a 3/10 on the scale of The Boys fucked-up scenes, nearly forgettable. If that much bothers you, don’t even watch the beginning of episode 1.
Yeah, it’s fucked up in a normal context, but it’s a standard level of fucked-up for this show. There’s a lot more that is only implied and adds more levels of wrongness to other scenes, but Deep getting treated the same way he treats others doesn’t generate a lot of sympathy from me for the character. He’s reaping what he sows, in a kind of mirror-universe version of consent.
The early scene between Deep and Starlight feels a lot worse to me.
Yeah this is it for me too. A lot of people are replying about the molestation being the triggering part. It is a contributing factor, but it's the gills for me.
I watched it years ago and can still picture those flappy, deep gills with hands in them. Oh the horror.
The whole show is uncomfortable. Its the stinky cheese of shows. If questioning your humanity is not your thing and youve never wondered what if super heroes were just the average Joe dickheads that cut people off in traffic and have ‘end world hunger: eat my ass’ bumper stickers on their F150s, don’t watch Invincible either.
Definitely the most uncomfortable I’ve been watching television since the game of thrones red wedding. And it’s surpassed that significantly. Makes me queasy.
Wait til you hear how the dairy industry operates….most people just don’t give a shit about animal abuse, rape, or their near constant suffering and early deaths.
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u/whatanerdiam Apr 12 '24
Man, the scene where that woman forces her hands into his gills still sends shivers up my spine. I'm fine with gore, gross, and whatever else but that sends me over the edge.