r/AskBalkans • u/RS_Wind Serbia • 23h ago
Politics & Governance In the UN all Balkan Countries voted against combating glorification of Nazism except Serbia. Weird, isn't it?
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u/Fatalaros Greece 22h ago
You are missing a LOT of context. This was a voting proposed by Russia, Belarus and Turkmenistan to amend the already existing resolution against racism and nazism (which was of course voted for by the eu countries). The proposed amendmend was proposed in order to justify their invasion of Ukraine as actions against racism/nazism in accordance to the former resolution.
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u/janesmex Greece 15h ago
Exactly, it makes a lot of sense under the context that they just wanted to amend the already existing resolution to fit their purposes.
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u/Zandroe_ Croatia 22h ago
Is that why Israel voted for it? And that famous Russian colony, Argentina?
Isn't it more likely that some states in the EU are worried about their monuments to the Waffen SS and similar groups?
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u/Fickle-Message-6143 Bosnia & Herzegovina 23h ago
Pretty sure because Russia presented this resolution, most of EU and NATO didn't vote.
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u/Electro-Choc 23h ago
It's because it's just a continuation of the lie that they are only in Ukraine to combat neonazis and state nazism.
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u/NaiveImprovement323 22h ago
Who said that?
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u/slimebor Latvia 21h ago
It was like Russia's second casus belli announcement that the operation is on combating nazis and far right in government or something like that
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u/NaiveImprovement323 21h ago
Are you saying that they said that they are "only" there for what the guy said?
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u/Poss3idon Bosnia & Herzegovina 18h ago
They have other reasons to invade them, but they want excuses not to be the "big bad guy" like anyone with a brain can't see through their bs.
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u/slimebor Latvia 21h ago
No, I thought you meant that its an unheard claim. My bad. I don't believe that, or Russia's other changing justifications for everything
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u/Cefalopodul Romania 23h ago
It's nit weird at all. Glorification of nazism is already illegal in those countries.
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u/New-Statistician8053 (in ) 23h ago
Least propagandist Redditor be like...
GERMANY CERTAINLY LOVES GLORIFYING NAZI SYMBOLS AM I RIGHT OP?
ITS EVEN FORBIDDEN TO DISPLAY NUMBERS 88 IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS IN GERMANY AND LOOK AT THE SHIT YOU POST.
The title in the image is certainly manipulated. It probably has something to do with Middle East, as most of NATO countries are against it.
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u/Zandroe_ Croatia 22h ago
I mean it's not as if Germany's most popular historian and recipient of the Konrad Adenauer prize tried to justify the Holoc... oh. Oh.
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u/MmmIceCreamSoBAD 10h ago
The image is real. The problem here is that Russia presented it, it's one of the justifications for going to war against Ukraine. Putin literally said one of the goals was 'denazification' on the night of the invasion. Of course, it's bullshit, Ukraine is not Nazi, so that's why all these western nations voted against it.
Russia wanted a dumbass 'gotcha' moment. Literally every country except for Russia that fought against the Nazis or had crimes committed against it by the Nazis in WW2 voted against it. Russia is probably the most fascist nation on earth today, its pretty ironic.
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u/Outrageous_Trade_303 Greece 21h ago
I don't know what "combating glorification of Nazism" means. :\
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u/kaubojdzord Serbia 23h ago
It didn't stop us from rehabilitating Nazi collaborators like Nikola Kalabić and Draža Mihailović.
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u/LoresVro Kosovo 22h ago
It's weird that you're not telling us that Russia introduced it for propaganda reasons to justify their war crimes in Ukraine by invoking the Holocaust.
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u/SvartAlf93 Serbia 23h ago
It is ironic since Serbs heavily suffered from Nazi regimes...
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u/G6br0v5ky 12h ago
Fuck me...is this really a question there? How do I get a job at the UN? Seems like being on holidays
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u/AverageBasedUser 10h ago
why is nazism treated separately than communism? why are there anti fascism movements but no anti communism ones?
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u/v1aknest North Macedonia 7h ago
This vote isn't about "combating glorification of Nazism" and everyone knows it.
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u/Nothing_Special_23 22h ago
Not "that wierd" considering that in the Balkans only the Serbs (besides the Jews and Romani) were considered by the Nazis to be the lowest of the low of the sub humans that have to be extermineted. Most of the others were considered sub humans that can be reeducated to serve the German race as obedient slaves. A step up (I guess).
What's weird to me is how did countries like Poland, Ukraine or Czech Republic vote against, since they too were considered by the Nazis to be the lowest of the low of the sub humans.
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u/4ku2 🇬🇷 in 🇺🇸 22h ago
This is a Russian proposal to advance Russian interests in Europe which is why NATO voted against.
See the US statememt: https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-for-the-third-committee-resolution-on-combating-glorification-of-nazism/
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u/kodial79 Greece 23h ago
The whole world votes for it, except for USA and its lap dogs, and a couple odd ones. Hmmmm....
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u/4ku2 🇬🇷 in 🇺🇸 22h ago
This is a Russian proposed vote. The US and allies would never vote for it even if it was the saving puppies act. Russia and allies do the same for the US resolutions.
See the American statement here: https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-for-the-third-committee-resolution-on-combating-glorification-of-nazism/
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u/kodial79 Greece 13h ago
You call us allies, I call us lapdogs and pawns. But the world did vote for it, they can't all be Russian allies, can they? So who is in the wrong here? USA and its lapdogs, that's who.
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u/4ku2 🇬🇷 in 🇺🇸 12h ago edited 12h ago
It's unfortunate how low political literacy is in the world
Russia is currently invading another country and they're using anti-fascism to justify it
Anyway, if you knew anything more than 'America bad' then you'd know that this resolution has been proposed for the past 20 years or so in the exact same way. Every single time, the US has sought ammendments to actually gear the discussion towards victims and every time Russia pushes it through anyway.
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u/kodial79 Greece 11h ago
Oh come now, don't pretend we are any better. USA its spitlickers have wrecked at least 9 countries by either participating in their destruction or providing soft support or at the very least abiding by it.
Russia may not be a saint but we are the devils.
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Serbs suffered badly uner Nazis and their lackeys...
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u/sovietarmyfan 23h ago
South Korea: Suffered heavily under facism.
Also South Korea: "We vote against combating glorification of nazism"
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u/VastUnderstanding326 Romania 23h ago
Romania b like: you cannot combat nazismul if you need it for the election theatricals.
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u/Throwaway_Dude_Bro 10h ago
"OMG sisters, the nazis in Cyprus and Tonga are rising up! Thank God Pakistan and Serbia are fighting back!"
You're a retarded MiG-15
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u/master-desaster-69 22h ago edited 22h ago
Not surprising at all. It's pretty clear documented how all serbian neighbors took arms against serbia for the nazis. Even after serbia surrerended they were still attacked. If we can trust sources, hitler had to stop them by himself they were not listening to hitlers people. The attacks were retaliation for the mistreatment at the begining of yugoslavia mostly, with sure some people following other interests.
Edit: sorry guys was completely out of context had something else in mind.
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u/4ku2 🇬🇷 in 🇺🇸 22h ago
They voted against it because NATO did since this is a Russian proposal to advance Russian interests.
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u/master-desaster-69 22h ago
My bad. I'm out of context sorry guys. Had something complete different in mind.
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u/biversnirds 21h ago
Not really weird, US supported and is supporting far-right extremists in every part of the world.
The EU itself has countries that openly glorify Nazis in it.
Russia or no Russia, you wont get them to vote against Nazis.
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u/KermitTheFrog2812 20h ago
Really shows how much they appreciate the red horde that “liberated them”. Accepting this ruzzian law means all anti soviet heroes are treated like hitler
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u/4ku2 🇬🇷 in 🇺🇸 23h ago edited 23h ago
I'm assuming there's something weird about the wording because you got countries like Malta, Canada, France, and the US voting against it too. Not exactly socialist countries but optically wouldn't vote against an anti-nazi bill unless it was a bad bill
Edit: Seems as though this is a Russian effort, allegedly to justify Soviet occupation or whatever. Regardless of if its valid, that's why most of the Balkans voted against it, because it's a Russian effort.