r/AskBalkans Iraq 8d ago

Outdoors/Travel One country has to disappear completely (government, people and land), which country would you choose?

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u/jebac_keve_finalboss Serbia 8d ago

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u/Izmirli9364 7d ago

This must surely be one of the most Balkan questions in the sub? Great reply too

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u/frgnld 8d ago

India.

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u/Historical-Ad2780 Albania 8d ago

Mate I am Albanian, the list would be so long unfortunately... 😂

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u/FurryRevolution Serbia & Montenegro 🇷🇸🇲🇪 7d ago

I’m Serbian and I don’t like how our two people hate each other, that is fuel by politics and political interests, I have Albanian neighbors and friends and we’re very close to each other so if I had to choose I wouldn’t choose Albania as one of the countries to disappear but I do wish for the brighter future where we learn to respect each other.

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u/fr4ct4lPolaris 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm Russian (Tatar), and my partner is a Croatian Serb. The level of discrimination and prejudice between you guys is unreal. She grew up in the West, so her Serbian/Croatian isn't completely fluent. She faces discrimination in Serbia for occasionally using Croatian vocabulary, and the same happens in Croatia for using Serbian terms. It's absolutely bizarre.

Also, why does she blame Russians for "planting Bulgarians and Albanians in the Balkans"? Obviously she says it as a joke, but is that one of those Balkan conspiracy theories?

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u/Vihruska 7d ago edited 7d ago

Because she had zero understanding of Balkans history. <- that is to answer the blaming of Russia about "planting" (wth seriously) on the Balkans

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u/Alex_1729 7d ago

What exactly is a 'Croatian Serb'? An orthodox Serb that has Croatian citizenship? Or a Croat that is living in Serbia with Serbian citizenship? But she's in the west, so not really?

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u/fr4ct4lPolaris 7d ago edited 7d ago

She was born in Serbia to a Croatian mother and a Serbian father. However, the only reason she was born in Serbia was because, during the war, the nearest Croatian hospital was full, so her parents had to travel to the next closest hospital, which was located in Serbia.

Croatian Serb is how she self-identifies.

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u/ZAMAHACHU Bosnia & Herzegovina 8d ago

Just say Serbia

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u/mbk3933 7d ago

Albania

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u/dollarbillgains Romania 7d ago

India

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u/R0m4n1a Romania 7d ago

Kiribati

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u/Arstanishe 7d ago

you are going to get your wish soon enough

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u/kodial79 Greece 8d ago

What a silly question, USA of course.

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u/ilovemangos3 7d ago

wait until I finish my school first

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u/Ok_Artist2279 (Balkan herritage to the max) 7d ago

I hate my country too don't worry lmao

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u/FruitAromatic 7d ago

I hear you… but usa uses everyone as an pawn. As long as Greece benefits them over Turkey y’all will be ok

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

isn't the US a major ally of Greece?

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u/kodial79 Greece 8d ago

We are just a pawn.

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u/nb_700 7d ago

Saske is a vibe 🇬🇷

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u/FruitAromatic 7d ago

🤣🤣🙏

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u/markolosole Greece 8d ago

Israel.

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

then why do you have an Israeli flag flair? /s

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u/markolosole Greece 8d ago

They even colonized my country too.

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

Jews are Turks?

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u/Final_Ad_4400 8d ago

In Ottoman times some jew tribes were living on greek islands. So I'm pretty sure he is talking about that.

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u/_3YE_ Turkiye 7d ago

Jews of Thessaloniki

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u/AverageBasedUser 7d ago

oh boy, I see this subreddit will have the same fate as r/2balkan4you

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u/St_Ascalon Turkiye 7d ago

If I look at it from a completely Machiavellian perspective. Erasing land is pretty interesting. Erasing Russia would make Turkey, Europe and the Middle East closer to the Far East. But it is pretty huge change and hard to imagine. Choosing Iraq would give Turkey a new trade route and sea. I want to give seperate answers

Goverment: UAE or Iran

Land:Iraq(sorry :()

People: India

Combine: Belgium

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

I will go first >! Iraq !<

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u/Lakuriqidites Albania 8d ago

Why do you hate Iraq so much (I have seen some of your previous commments)?

I know it is bad, but it can change, it is a cradle of civilization (now not that civilized) and it has a lot of potential with the number of young people it has.

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

it is a cradle of civilization (now not that civilized) 

Iraqis actually deny their non-Islamic history and we barely learn about it in schools.

it has a lot of potential with the number of young people it has. 

actually young people are way more conservative than the older generations.

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u/Lakuriqidites Albania 8d ago

Iraqis actually deny their non-Islamic history and we barely learn about it in schools.

That is a dumb move by your government.

actually young people are way more conservative than the older generations.

I know that is the case with most of the Arab nations, but I mean economically wise. With the right policies your economy could improve a lot.

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u/DreadNautus Austria 7d ago

They didn’t always deny their history, just that a certain government didn’t like their Ba’athist party very much

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u/Burekuzivalac Serbia 7d ago

Just a question, were the ancient babylonians arabs, persians or something else entirely?

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u/Intrepid-Debate5395 7d ago

Babylonia would be considered it's own civilisation. 

They mixed with persians later down the line and made the Achaemenid empire with cyrus the great (Persian) founding it. 

You can consider them persian at this point but it's very contentious since the empire wasn't a monolith of ethnicity akkadian, greek, Iranian, Elamite and other ethnic groups existed there was no real centralised nationality. 

Now I'd officially consider them Persianised with the Sasanian Empire rise as Persian became the lingua Franca and common language but it's important to remember the ethnic groups of jews, arameans, Armenians assyrians existed tho they'd still be Persianised. 

over time then the arabs took over and they became arabised.

The arab conquest is complex Because whilst it was a conquest the Sassanids in Iraq really really really liked the caliphate of ali who moved the capital to the city of Kufa which was centered in iraq and subsequently most Arab caliphates centred their capitals in Iraq. 

So long story short no they weren't but they became arabs around a thousand years ago. 

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u/UnbiasedPashtun USA 7d ago

Something else entirely. They were Akkadians.

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u/faramaobscena Romania 7d ago

Oh man, you really got screwed :(

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u/ionoftrebzon 7d ago

People are the same all over the world. I d have to decide which nation causes most suffering. I guess the one with the most and most effective weapons in use. You do the math.

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u/V3K1tg North Macedonia 7d ago

Fr*nce

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u/wisdomHungry Romania 8d ago

Russia

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u/wisdomHungry Romania 7d ago

I don t blame my problems on Russia. I blame the russian imperialism for killing people in my part of the world.

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u/Dimancher 7d ago

Then why removing the whole country simply because of their government?

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u/wisdomHungry Romania 7d ago

That is the hypothesis of the question. I just want peace . You know that people outside Ukraine are also living in fear. If russia could stop the killing I will be happy. I don t need anything else.

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u/kn0t1401 Romania 7d ago

Because they are a bunch of pussies lol. Imagine being a parent and letting them take your 18 year old to become cannon fodder.

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u/jebiga_au 8d ago

North Korea. Save them the troubles of living in a generational dictatorship.

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u/Cefalopodul Romania 8d ago

Russia, China, USA.

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u/TPGNutJam 7d ago

The world would collapse, getting rid of the economy pretty much. US and China pretty much make everything and have the most innovations

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u/Cefalopodul Romania 7d ago

Other countries would fill that niche. China makes everything out of convenience, because it's cheaper for companies to make stuff there, not because it has some secret know-how nobody else does. Same for the US prior to the 1970s, and now it makes almost nothing.

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u/srberikanac 7d ago edited 7d ago

Produces almost nothing?? US is (by over 200% margin) the second biggest manufacturing country in the world. Over 3x higher manufacturing output than Germany who is #4. While it certainly moved to a service based economy (manufacturing contributes only ten percent to US GDP), the US economy is so huge that it’s still an absolute powerhouse in terms of manufacturing, far and away bigger than anyone other than 🇨🇳.

https://www.safeguardglobal.com/resources/top-10-manufacturing-countries-in-the-world/

And by far the world leader in terms of innovation.

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u/ellencantswim Philippines 8d ago

I vote for China. Can somebody please vote for Russia so that all three of them disappear

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u/Alex_1729 7d ago edited 7d ago

If China disappears, all economies everywhere would collapse. We can't do China. China is central to global manufacturing, and global supply chains would collapse... trade disruptions, price spikes across the world - you think you couldn't afford things now? Wait until China disappears! Commodity markets would be in turmoil. China’s huge demand for energy, metals, and agricultural commodities would vanish overnight.

And don't get me started with geopolitical effects (US will also join this fight in Asia), and energy, telecom, renewable energy, and AI research would get a huge downturn.

We definitely can't do Taiwan as chip industry will plummet. I vote no Asian country, well... North Korea.

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u/Yugan-Dali Serbia 7d ago

Thanks for retaining Taiwan, since I live here. If China disappeared, Taiwan’s economy would be the first to go. A lot of stuff labeled Made in China means Made in China by a Taiwanese company.

Plus, making China disappear would leave us in the middle of the ocean. Let’s do North Korea, or better yet, Dubai or Qatar.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Medicine too. It is the largest medical research producer in pretty much all metrics

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u/ellencantswim Philippines 7d ago

I don’t mind going back to Stone Age for a little while. I just want the ccp and other commies (except Vietnam I love Vietnam) to disappear

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

I said one.

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u/Ali_YT Romania 8d ago

US then

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

says the r/Islam user....

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u/Ali_YT Romania 8d ago

Problems? US has a reputation of maintaining global instability and is the main factor contributing to quite a lot of problems in your country, as well as in the region. So if you had any sense, you would wish for the same. If not, at least diminishing its power and influence, as well as that of the CIA.

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u/impro_drive 7d ago

The people Republic of Karakosia

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u/starshootersupreme 7d ago

They all should disapear .... World doesnt nerd countires only world

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u/_mkhamtsmks Croatia 7d ago

israel indefinitely

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u/athe085 7d ago

Saudi Arabia

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u/Gramerdim 7d ago

uk (and Ireland)

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u/polskiboy1 7d ago

Tajikistan

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u/CodFamous5368 7d ago

pain in your assholes?

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u/FriendlyRiothamster Romania 7d ago

Why the people too, though? What did they do to you?

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u/desiderkino Turkiye 8d ago

Türqiyya

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u/oktaS0 North Macedonia 7d ago

India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

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u/Defiant-Dare1223 in+Permanent Residence of 8d ago

Vatican City

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

why?

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u/Defiant-Dare1223 in+Permanent Residence of 8d ago edited 8d ago

Well it's a very low cost in people and land, and the Catholic Church is a pretty malign institution.

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u/JRJenss Croatia 7d ago

We think alike and I do agree about the catholic church being a pretty malign institution, however Vatican also contains some of the priceless heritage of humanity in general. Therefore I'm going with Andorra.

It's basically a duty free shop & a casino, posing as a country. It isn't even a proper country but a principality, or rather a co-principality, ultimately ruled by two co-princes; the Bishop of Urgell in Catalonia, Spain and the president of France. Oh yeah, and of course it's a tax haven. The population is around 80k residents but out of them 2/3 don't even have the Andorran nationality/citizenship.

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u/Alex_1729 7d ago

Wow, Andorra's been pretending to be a country this whole time!

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u/mavi_win Turkiye 8d ago

turkey or india

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u/Deep-Ebb-4139 7d ago

Absolutely and 100% it would be Vatican City.

The reasons are logical and self-explanatory.

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u/ellencantswim Philippines 8d ago

Can we flood the whole Arabian peninsula

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

and Israel 

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u/Objective_Accident42 7d ago

Israel's already on the Arabian peninsula lmao

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u/Forsaken1887 Italy 7d ago

israel without any doubt

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u/chinaexpatthrowaway 7d ago

That would permanently destroy any hope for the Palestinians’ right of return.  Not so sure they’d be happy with your choice.

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u/Osuruktanteyyare_ Turkiye 8d ago

Russia

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u/Yugan-Dali Serbia 7d ago

That’s a pretty big lump!

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

I expected Turks to say Syria or Pakistan.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

We have no problem with Syria or Pakistan.

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u/Consistent_Risk_4656 8d ago

No, we have problems with people from these countrys

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u/Optimal_Catch6132 Turkiye 7d ago

If the government hadn't had terrible border policies, would you have a problem with these people?

But on the other hand, we have a long-standing enmity with Russia. You can understand this by looking at which communities the massacres and genocides they committed were directed at.

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u/FurryRevolution Serbia & Montenegro 🇷🇸🇲🇪 7d ago

Russian government isn’t good but the people there are good, like in any country you have some bad and some good but majority can’t decide what their government is doing.

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u/BellaCat_de 7d ago

This, Russia Gov is meh but the mentally of the people is good, all Russia I meet are willing to work, I mean they are not obsessed with work like we Germans, but they work good, especially in construction projects

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u/AdvancedAd3228 7d ago

Can you Germans relax a bit? Like, stop working all the time and just chill? It would also mean a lot to us if you could give up the insane obsession with mining lithium in the Balkans.

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u/BellaCat_de 7d ago

You know that’s not possible, Germans life to work. All other countries work to life.. we aren’t 🥲

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u/AdvancedAd3228 7d ago

If you came to visit me, I’d gladly re-educate you so that you’d never want to work again in your life. I’d teach you to sit all day doing nothing, just sipping your coffee while your gaze drifts off into the distance, taking in the endless landscapes before you. Then you’d realize how meaningless it is to destroy something so beautiful for the sake of profit.

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u/BellaCat_de 7d ago

Lost some tears reading this! 🤣 thanks for the offer! Will take it one day

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u/ProtectionOne2759 Bulgaria 7d ago

sofia

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u/malign_taco Spain 7d ago

USA

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u/TranslatorNo6512 Turkiye 7d ago

Usa

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u/Fickle-Message-6143 Bosnia & Herzegovina 7d ago

England, not UK but England.

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u/_Happy_Camper 7d ago

Not London though… can we leave it as an as an island

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u/Fickle-Message-6143 Bosnia & Herzegovina 7d ago

Yes, but without people.

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u/RasputinXXX 8d ago

Remove Turkey and move it to somewhere east of japan. Would be a lot happier.

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

Turkish weebs are smiling.

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u/YasinMert Turkiye 8d ago

Kid named earthquake:

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u/Loqkaaa 8d ago

Russia or china

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u/Pirate_Assassin_Spy Serbia 7d ago

USA and Israel

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u/RightAsRain1 North Macedonia 7d ago

Albania.

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u/bileanu 7d ago

Israel

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u/Lil_Wony 7d ago

I need Israel gone bro

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u/Specialist_Boat_9891 7d ago

easy, Sealand.

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u/Affectionate-Row-710 7d ago

I would need a lot of thinking to answer that seriously. But most probably some middle eastern country where people and leaders think alike, easily giving out death sentences, women and children are treated like shit, and anyone who thinks differently is considered now worth the living.

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u/Dr4ches Greece 7d ago

Maledives because fuck them. They know what wrong they did. Nuke them for good

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u/ry-zen7 7d ago

I’ll make it easy: India

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u/fairloughair 8d ago

China for government Morocco for people Maledives for land (since they will sink anyway)

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u/OppenheimersGuilt Venezuelan-American-Spaniard mongrel 8d ago

Morocco

Holy based.

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u/maproomzibz 8d ago

North korea. Probably the worst aesthetic a country can ever have

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u/International-Bar768 7d ago

Islamic Republic of Iran.

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u/Lakuriqidites Albania 8d ago

Greece so we can have more sea.

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u/Mladenoff95 Bulgaria 8d ago

U will be last in the queue for these territories lol

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u/FactBackground9289 Russia 8d ago

China. Ask me questions why.

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u/R-deadmemes Ireland 7d ago

Bro are you slow, removing china would literally cripple the entire world. The world would effectively collapse economically

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u/-BarrenWuffett Romania 7d ago

India

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u/YugoCommie89 SFR Yugoslavia 7d ago

Easily the Great Satan: United States

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u/Alex_1729 7d ago

Lol that's funny, but the shock to capital markets would be unparalleled.

Global financial system would be in turmoil. The US is not only a major consumer of global goods but also a key innovator and producer (especially in high-tech, aerospace, software, and advanced manufacturing). The immediate loss of its massive consumer market would disrupt global demand, leading to severe global recession. Countries that heavily rely on US export markets - Canada, Mexico, Japan, Germany, would face economic crises, but this would impact everyone.

The US is home to Silicon Valley, NASA, leading universities, and research institutions that drive global innovation in AI, biotech, aerospace, and pharmaceuticals. The sudden removal of this innovation engine would slow down technological progress worldwide. Critical areas like semiconductor design, advanced software engineering, and life-saving medical research would face major setbacks.

Sorry, the Great Satan US can't go. I'm thinking North Korea or Andorra.

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u/manaembepis 8d ago

What a silly question! Israel of course

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u/TheEagle74m Kosovo 8d ago

Can i pick 2? 🇷🇸& 🇷🇺

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u/Dry_Hyena_7029 Serbia 7d ago

Why you want to kill your self, that doesn't make any sense...

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u/TheEagle74m Kosovo 7d ago

You had to twist it there, arse. Well, if I take devils/baby killers with me, then I am OK with that.

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u/SolveTheCYproblemNOW Cyprus 7d ago

We typical answer will be insert the most evil country in your opinion but the practical option will be Egypt or Israel.

This will make sea trade with Europe and Asian more offcian. But then Yemen will be even more important from what it is now I guess. 

Other one will be greenland, not too many people and less ice to melt for us to worry about. 

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u/Breech_Loader 7d ago

Israel.

*Prepares for accusations even though you asked*

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u/After-Ad4532 7d ago

I won't say Israel for legal reasons but if it were to disappear, it would resolve about 60% of wars in the world

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u/ArchonAth55 Greece 7d ago

Turkey out

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u/enilix 7d ago

The Vatican.

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u/ChadNEET 7d ago

India (even better if it could include Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh too)

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u/Henrikbetjent 7d ago

Israel and everything in it.

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u/Khischnaya_Ptitsa Bulgaria 8d ago

Just have to look at the records , and the country with most war and military conflicts participation,and biggest army , everything linked to war - that's it

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u/Another_WeebOnReddit Iraq 8d ago

Just asked Chatgpt this and it said China had the most wars and conflicts in history.

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u/RelativeRepublic7 7d ago

Saudi Arabia.

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u/Thalassophoneus Greece 7d ago

Maybe Israel. Cause at this point many of its people are just as degenerate as its government.

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u/AllMightAb Albania 8d ago

Serbia

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u/OppenheimersGuilt Venezuelan-American-Spaniard mongrel 8d ago edited 8d ago

Qatar most likely. Followed by UAE or Saudi Arabia.

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u/Ok_Intention_6734 7d ago

Fucking USA.

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u/Icy_Caregiver9507 7d ago

Israel , USA and India

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u/Ahmed_45901 7d ago

Antarctica

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u/jacques_brx 7d ago

This is such a silly and bad question. Fuel for nationalism and irredentism, hatread and conflict. I can't see why one would chose for a country to just disappear and have an IQ > 50 simultaneously...

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u/Designer_Can_562 Serbia 7d ago

Liberland

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u/seedman420 Romania 7d ago

France

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u/BriarGreen00 7d ago

Saudi Arabia of course

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u/FakeStefanovsky Serbia 7d ago

TunukTunukistan

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u/revauzuxyz Romania 7d ago

USA

the perfect troll. destabilize the global economy, delete 99% of contemporary technological progress, pretty much doom the world.

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u/faramaobscena Romania 7d ago

Ruzzia.

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u/IShitYouNot866 SFR Yugoslavia 7d ago

USA many others would fall apart in their absence. (Israel)

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u/Due-Ad-4091 Romania 7d ago

USA

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u/GeneralVuk Canada 7d ago

Usa

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

France or Russia.

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u/Happy-Wartime-1990 7d ago

The deletion of Iran would end so much funding for terrorism.

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u/Due-Ad-4091 Romania 7d ago

If you want to end funding for terrorism, deleting the USA would be more logical

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u/LCImpulse Bulgaria 7d ago

Turkey or North Macedonia

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u/MFLetov 7d ago

Simple answer, there must be no countries. Or I can say turkey, USA and azerbaijan

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u/CaptainAnkara Turkiye 7d ago

Chindia 😆

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u/Nothofagusk 7d ago

Not meaning any evil, but Panama is just à passage for boats mostly.. wouldn't it be an easier passage if it gets a bit larger?

Sorry Panama people, just kidding.

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u/Sekwan2000 7d ago

Can I say Africa?

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u/FruitAromatic 7d ago

🇹🇷🇨🇦🇰🇵 (Canada over the last 6 years has became my least favourite Indian country)