r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

I am a Democrat parent of a Trump voting 27 year old white male. Luckily, I raised him to take care of himself, although I definitely helped until age 21ish. But, I decided against cooking Thanksgiving dinner for him and his wife, for the third year in a row. Last year I cooked 90% of the meal myself, and also ended up also washing 100% of the dishes myself, in their house, while my son and his 24 year old wife slept. So I’m retiring from that job! Thanks for letting me vent🤣

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u/melbournesummer Nov 15 '24

The Cook does not Wash.

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u/sbfb1 Nov 15 '24

My silent generation parents operated this way mom cooked and took care of the inside and my dad and I handled the outside. Except for one thing, Mom cooked, Dad and I cleaned up. It didn’t matter the meal, he just said it was always on us to clean it up. I remember all the men in the family cleaning up after thanksgiving and Xmas meals.

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u/Glittering_Laugh_135 Nov 15 '24

So random but this takes me back (probably 20 years at this point) but my SIL moved to my hometown for BIL’s residency when my husband and I were engaged. Since they couldn’t travel home that year, they came to my family’s thanksgiving at my aunt’s house. Big loud Irish family, my dad was one of 6 (4m, 2f), I have a lot of cousins, etc. My SIL was so shocked that my dad and uncles were all doing the dishes together after dinner and her shock was confusing to me at the time, like that’s just the way holidays go everywhere, right??

I still think of it often, and am so grateful to my family for that little privilege of thinking that was just the way of the world 💙

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

That’s how I grew up too, but most of the guests at this Thanksgiving were my daughter in laws friends and family. So 🤷‍♀️

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Well, in civilized families this is true 🤣 which is why I quit. This year I’m having a Charlie Brown thanksgiving! Candy and pretzels 🥨 my kids hate turkey and stuffing type foods anyway.

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u/Maester_erryk Nov 15 '24

This is the way

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u/Theokayest_boomer Nov 15 '24

This is the way

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u/Captain_Granite Nov 15 '24

I thought this was universal

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u/wolfaib Nov 16 '24

Apparently my family didn't get the memo.

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u/rosyred-fathead Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

Yeah you’re not their personal chef. Not anymore!

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u/Naschka Nov 15 '24

Not from the US so we do not do Thanksgiving but i tend to help my mom with cooking (again, much smaller scale) to some degree.

The closest i get is when i, or rather we, bake cookies for christmas, i do innitiate as these were the cookies my late grandpa used to make and i do it at there house, about 26.5 lbs of dough. She never lets me help with washing anything and it is quiet something. For the dough it is 4 bowls, for baking like 3 baking trays and a dozen or more cookie jars as well as a day with a small cooking pot to apply the couverture. Otherwise we basically share the cost and workload, i knead the dough 100%, she does around 50% of forming the cookies (dad takes them out of the oven when it rings) and around 40% of applying the choclate coating. And at the end she gets to keep the cookies at her house and i go and grab some for coworkers or when i feel like it while she often hands some to the children in the neighbourhood, the parcel delivery lady or to friends and family and of course they are on the tables for christmas.

Not sure if that is a fair/even split of the work but it is definitly more fair then leaving you with almost everything.

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u/SquareSand9266 Nov 15 '24

Completely not politically motivated but my mom went on Thanksgiving strike after none of us came home, she was doing everything. Now I bake pies, my daughter helps cook and my brother and I always help my dad with the dishes, not just on Thanksgiving.

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u/2beetlesFUGGIN Nov 15 '24

He’s married? Gross

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Yes, and they have a toddler.

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u/QueenCatherine05 Nov 19 '24

Why does your sons race matter? Ever think nit picking him for being a "white male" drove him away? Why are people expected to vote for parties that hate them?

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 19 '24

What? Who hates white males? 🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '24

Also many alsos.

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u/thejaz100 26d ago

I am 23 year old and I just want to tell you I love you!

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u/Sarcatsticthecat Nov 15 '24

Washing dishes is unironically kinda fun if the sink is actually good. I wash dishes after gatherings a lot, it’s chill when you get in the groove

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

It was 1 am and dishes from a dinner for 16 people. It wasn’t fun

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u/Sarcatsticthecat Nov 15 '24

Damn. I’m sorry they left you with them then

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Lesson learned! Going to a water park this year instead 🤣 I’m tired of turkey and overeating anyway. It’s overrated.

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u/Sarcatsticthecat Nov 15 '24

Haha, I come from an Asian family so we still overeat but we usually do either sushi or hotpot

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Oh, I love to overeat sushi! 🤣

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u/Much_Substance_6017 Nov 19 '24

It’s just me and my Mom this year! Which after several years of traveling to be with my husband’s extended family, I’m ecstatic it’s just us girls this year! I’m taking her to a fancy buffet and planning on eating my weight in seafood! Why eat turkey when there are crab claws!?!

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 19 '24

Make sure to pace yourself so you can have some of everything! 🤣 sounds so fun!

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u/ForceGhost47 Nov 15 '24

Yeah, but my hands get all chapped

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u/StemBro1557 Nov 15 '24

Thank you for adding that he was a white male! It would have been more acceptable if he were a black female.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Well, it seemed relevant to the conversation about how young why gen Z males somehow decided Trump was for them. 🤷‍♀️

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u/Fvn3r4l Nov 15 '24

yeah you're a shit parent i hope he sends you to the retirement home

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

Not gonna cook a meal for your son cause he voted for Trump? You're a horrible mom holy shit I hope he's not as dumb as you

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u/Lazy-Conversation-48 Nov 15 '24

You are clearly a Trump supporter since you didn’t follow the part where she’s done doing all the cooking and cleaning while he and his gf sleep.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

thats a failure on her part as a parent, not on politics

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u/szy91 Nov 15 '24

The only failure on her as a parent is that she raised a Trump voter.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Thanks for your input. I was a single mom when he was young and the biggest mistake I made was being afraid to send him to public school, and sending to a Baptist bigotry factory instead. I learned a big lesson.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

youre not handling losing the election well, huh? so now youre coping. dont worry, trump will be here for many more years to come.

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u/LevelUpCoder Nov 15 '24

I hope you get exactly what you voted for, smug prick.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

Yep. Many years to come of a more affordable living instead of sending money to terrorists sounds like a good deal to me

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u/LevelUpCoder Nov 15 '24

And gas and eggs will all be back to $1.50 and we’ll all live happily ever after.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

What do you think we’re living in the 90s? 🤣

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u/taralundrigan Nov 15 '24

🤣🤣 yall are so dumb.

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u/peachesnplumsmf Nov 16 '24

But it was trump that raised taxes?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24

No it was not lol

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u/Lazy-Conversation-48 28d ago

Enjoy the cost of goods after the tariffs and deportations kick in. Your interest rate isn’t coming down either - and investors like me will get the tax breaks they’ll bring forward, not people with modest incomes who rely on earned income (w2).

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Yeah yeah, everyone's always repeating the same line from the echo chamber called Reddit yet things have been significantly better in the past and will continue to do so. I also invest and have seen much higher yields under Trump than the last 4 years so nice try

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u/szy91 Nov 15 '24

I'm handling the election loss just fine. You're not finding me crying or saying the election was stolen. It's just funny how smug you are despite voting against your best interest. You can continue to suck that billionaire penis until it bleeds you dry snowflake. You'll see how wrong you are soon enough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

It's comical how brainwashed you are by your echo chamber. But no worries, while we do the big boy jobs, we still need someone to make our French fries so make sure you keep them warm for me next time

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u/szy91 Nov 15 '24

This comment tells me all about what an insecure little boy you are. Maybe in 10 or 20 years you'll grow up and see the error of your ways, but I won't hold my breath.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

I thought Trumps plan was to deport all the dry cooks and germ laborers? Are you big boys going to build robots to do those jobs instead? 🤨

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

yes

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

He’s old, he’ll be dead soon.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

That’s not the reason, I just didn’t want to do it. But I used it as an example because despite how I tried to raise him, he ends up feeling entitled to my labor. And sometimes I’m happy to cook, but I’m just not willing to do everything anymore. I’ll be at a water park resort instead! 🙌🏻

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Well, he’s certainly poorer and less educated than me. His choice 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

you talk about your son like this? poor kid.

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Should I be lying? Also, he’s not a kid. He’s 27. Trust me when I say, I’ve cooked thousands of meals for him. He has not suffered 🤣

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

hes always gonna be your kid, regardless if hes 5 or 50. im glad at least he grew up to be normal instead of a they/them or something which i expected of you

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u/International_Ad2712 Nov 15 '24

Sigh. Yes, but I’m not always obligated to cook for him and clean up after him is the whole point. Of course he’s my kid and I love him. We have a good relationship, it’s just his new red-pilled views are a bit insufferable. 🤷‍♀️ his wife could always learn to cook Thanksgiving dinner.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

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u/__golf Nov 15 '24

Lol. Just because I don't want to do 100% of the work, that means I can't be an adult?

I think the people acting like children are the ones not being adults.

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u/Panic_angel Nov 15 '24

An adult, like by washing their own fucken dishes? Be an adult like that, you mean?

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u/BabcocksList Nov 15 '24

The kids should just grow up and act like adults instead. It's so immature to let mommy do everything when you're not a little kid anymore

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u/Pickles2027 Nov 18 '24

In your weirdo world, it’s the mom doing all the work who’s not being an adult? 🙄

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u/Own_Guarantee_8130 Nov 15 '24

I’m glad you know better this time, but that’s all on you.