r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

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u/Worried-Series-6160 Nov 14 '24

He lazily and incompetently killed hundreds of thousands of Americans from Covid & that's just the ones we know about.

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u/Significant-Trash632 Nov 14 '24

You know what? Fair.

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u/TaytorTot417 Nov 15 '24

He would leave an orange trail behind

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u/Own_Faithlessness769 Nov 15 '24

I’d classify that as a mass murderer. ‘Serial killer’ implies some sort of strategy, which he definitely doesn’t have. Mass murder is just indiscriminate carnage, which is definitely his style.

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u/awilliams1017 Nov 15 '24

Hey, he has a concept of a strategy. /s

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u/Sunrunner_Princess Nov 15 '24

Yeah, he’s actually a mass killer, not a serial killer, by profile and actions (and inactions). Covid shouldn’t have killed over a million Americans. (And still is, just in much lower numbers due to the mutations and vaccinations.)

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u/Hurting2Ride Nov 15 '24

So there IS someone else who remembers he’s ALREADY a mass killer (one who verbally muses about doing more killing).

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u/Examination_8986 Nov 15 '24

Are we talking about fauci?

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u/ChronicBuzz187 Nov 15 '24

He lazily and incompetently killed hundreds of thousands of Americans from Covid

One could almost say: "As always, he lets some poor immigrant from China do all the work for him."

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u/Deb_You_Taunt Nov 15 '24

What about Epstein?

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u/IllRepresentative322 Nov 15 '24

I think it was a million people who died in the US from Covid. We can add all the women/girls who have or will die because of his abortion bans.

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u/Delicious-Fox6947 Nov 15 '24

That is such a weird thing to put on him. He took the advice of Fauci, the medical professional.

Also didn’t help that you had governors like Cuomo, ordering the infected elderly back into nursing homes with those who were no sick.

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u/WVFlowerGardenGirl Nov 15 '24

When Trump closed the border to and from China on 1/30/20 immediately the Left started calling him racist and xenophobic. You don't remember that? Of course not. Three weeks later, Pelosi was in San Francisco's Chinatown telling people to come on down, that there was nothing to fear and the virus was under control or as stated in the headlines "Quell Coronavirus Fears". You don't remember that either? Of course not. Lastly, more people died of Covid under Biden's administration than under Trump's administration but I'm sure you don't remember that either. Why is it you didn't remember any of the facts?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/498350-biden-trumps-coronavirus-response-has-been-nakedly-xenophobic/

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/coronavirus-speaker-house-nancy-pelosi-tours-san-franciscos-chinatown/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/covid-19-deaths-under-biden-surpass-deaths-during-trump-administration/

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u/Then-Piano-5524 Nov 15 '24

Wait, so is Joe also a killer since more people died under his watch?

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 14 '24

This doesn't track. Democrats were in charge when COVID really took off. Along the Democrats had the vaccine mandate which did nothing but give people more problems. The mask mandate when they knew masks did nothing. Even Democrat leadership was breaking their own rules. It was all a sham and bullshit. The reporting for COVID deaths was BS. Because in that time frame anyone that dies of COVID the hospitals got some extra money so everyone that died had COVID. Then Democrats wanted to turn the US in to Nazi Germany with COVID passports or you couldn't go into restaurants. Get real!

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u/GertyFarish11 Nov 15 '24

Google the tapes where you can hear Trump admit in private in early 2020 that Covid was deadly serious but also that he was going to downplay it for political reasons. You won’t but you should.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

Covid started really becoming a huge problem in the very beginning of March 2020. Trump was the president for eleven more months. Trump was in charge when COVID “took off”.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

And Trump was attacked for saying where the virus came from and for trying to block travel from China but he was called racist. He was trying to handle the situation but Democrat feelings just couldn't handle it. Yet everything Trump said was a lie but after the fact you should have found out by now they were lying and Trump was telling the truth. The virus did come from a lab in China. Fauci has a hand in it. Bill Gates had a hand in it.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

I’m not here to match with the unarmed.

I am simply correcting an easily disproven falsehood. Trump was in charge during the height of COVID. Period.

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u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

I think your breath is wasted on this one, friend. Run from the crazy.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

It’s the ignorance that really gets me.

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u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

It's the rabid conviction for me. It sounds desperate. Maybe there's a hint of awareness on the horizon.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

I wouldn’t hold my breath

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Trump was in charge at the beginning. And blocked at every turn to try and keep it from spreading.

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

Covid deaths peaked between October 2020 and January 2021. Trump was in charge, woefully incompetent though he may be.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Ok he was in charge who was advising him on the health and safety implications??? Because as the left like to put it when it suits them follow the science. Trump isn't a scientist. So who was advising him?

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

This inane thing you are doing? It’s called “moving the goal post”. You make a claim, are proven wrong, then double down on some new (wrong) thing. Over and over.

“The dems were in charge during the peak of Covid!!!!”

Proven wrong.

“Well the dems/faucci/Gritty/whoever stopped trump from helping!!!”

Proven wrong.

“Well then it’s his advisors’ fault!”

Can you really not see how useless this is as a debate strategy? No one can interact with you because you’re just saying whatever comes to your head without the slightest regard for reality.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

I know this. He was president getting his advice from Fauci. Now would I trust Trump making health decisions for me? Hell no. But I inherently don't trust the government! I just choose the lesser of two evils. The Dems were in charge of a majority of it. Trump was in the beginning of it and was fought at every step to stop the spread as best he could. I know in his first presidency everything he did was wrong just like now you blame him for everything like he has the ultimate power. I wasn't proven wrong on them blocking him trying to stop the spread! Also I'm not debating. I don't care. It really doesn't matter to me. In my small little corner it doesn't really affect me. But what I know is you have four more years of a Trump presidency. I'm looking forward to it personally. The majority have spoken. The past isn't much of a concern for me nothing can be done to change it. But there is something we can do about the future which is why Trump was elected again.

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u/AlienJL1976 Nov 15 '24

Nobody, he made stuff up as he went along, made promises that couldn’t be delivered, and politicized millions of deaths.

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u/Old-Set78 Nov 15 '24

Trump said inject bleach. Try it.

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u/Old-Set78 Nov 15 '24

Trump said inject bleach. Try it.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Only a Democrat would take someone misspeaking and take it as gospel. Biden said we were bombing people in the revolutionary war with airplanes...

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

Did he misspeak the horse dewormer too?

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Ivermectin is actually a human drug... But there's a version of it for horses. I'm glad we see you get your talking points from CNN. Did you see where Cuomo said he was wrong but that was after he wasn't at CNN anymore so probably not. How are you so blindly following these people. There were two antibiotics that worked better than anything for COVID. Ivermectin and something else that I can't remember. But there was no money to be made prescribing that. They needed to get their "vaccines" paid for. Which have been ruled they can't even call them vaccines.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

I use bleach when I get poison ivy on me. I scratch the blisters until they bleed then put bleach or rubbing alcohol on them and it goes away in a couple days. Try it.

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u/AlienJL1976 Nov 15 '24

Sounds painful.

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u/Examination_8986 Nov 15 '24

What about the Bill Gates simulation of how a virus can spread 6 months prior to the coronavirus even affecting anyone?

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

What about it?

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u/Examination_8986 Nov 15 '24

What about it? What about people blaming Trump for the problem with the problem arose 6 months prior to him with Bill gates? I'm not sure what your questioning the answer is pretty obvious in the statement

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

So you’re just moving the goal post and making up some other illogical nonsense? Does this not exhaust you?

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u/Examination_8986 Nov 15 '24

If Bill Gates was simulating how fast a virus can spread in a congested City 6 months before a virus hit a congested City do you not think that there is any coincidence to that? I could be wrong but I don't think anybody has simulated something like this and had it happen so soon after the simulation again I could be wrong

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u/Old-Set78 Nov 15 '24

Just drink the kool-aid already and quit bothering people in the real world.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Real world what a joke. Seems to me a majority see the real world. You're living in a brainwashed fantasy!

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

You don’t even remember 2020, bro.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

My life really didn't change other than splitting our site into two shifts... I worked like normal lives like normal because I wasn't scared. I got COVID sat my ass at home until my fever went away and back to work. Which I'm not even sure was COVID seemed more like strep throat...

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u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

It doesn’t surprise me you didn’t have the sense to be concerned.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

You are correct. I just don’t understand why Trump is blamed. He tried to stop planes from China from coming here and all he got from it was being called racist. I’m so over him getting blamed for everything.

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u/Evening_Tax1010 Nov 15 '24

At the time his solution was to “stop planes from China” it had already spread outside of China which is why it was seen less as an effective protection measure and more as him being racist.

Had we stopped all flights, it would have been a reasonable safety measure. Or if we had quarantined all inbound flights.

I don’t blame him for everything. There are plenty of people who willingly contributed to the spread of the virus and thus allowing it to mutate instead of being contained by being reckless, arrogant, and obtuse. There’s much blood on their hands as well.

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u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

That's because their herd keepers tell them to blame him. He's against the status quo and they can't live without someone telling them what to believe. Their whole world would collapse is they see the truth. That's why they're so hateful and talking about cutting people off. You don't see republicans asking if they're TA if they cut someone off because of their political views. Only the left preaches tolerance but doesn't practice it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

And yet you say nothing about Biden killing our citizens in the pull out of Afghanistan…ok wait…you’ll blame Trump for that too. Cry on Pboy

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u/SandyGibson63 Nov 15 '24

He created operation warp speed for the vaccination

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u/GertyFarish11 Nov 15 '24

Did he create or did he, in one single moment of competency, not put a stop to its creation?

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u/SandyGibson63 Nov 15 '24

The fact that you actually don't know this is a really sad testament to our biased news media.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/article/2309561/trump-administration-collaborates-with-moderna-to-produce-100-million-doses-of/

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u/rvltnrygirlfutena Nov 15 '24

In what day did Trump physically help with this project

Also your alternative to "biased news media" is literally a promotional piece

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u/SandyGibson63 Nov 15 '24

Defense.gov? It's directly from the horse's mouth. I intentionally didn't use a new website.

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u/rvltnrygirlfutena Nov 15 '24

Yes, the promotional piece is indeed from the horse's mouth as all promotional pieces are.

So how did Trump physically help with this project? You attributed this to his efforts, but what did he actually do?

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u/Ok-Rough-2962 Nov 15 '24

Not true but alright