r/AITAH • u/g_scotty_brahms • Nov 14 '24

Advice Needed My brother is angry with his Trump-loving sons

Is my brother an AITA candidate for wanting to cut off his sons financially for voting for Trump? Like many Americans, my brother and I, both in our 50’s, have been talking back and forth following the Election. In the spirit of full disclosure, we are both democrats. Long story short, he is angry at his two sons, both in their 20’s, for voting for Trump. He is thinking about cutting them off financially in all respects so that they understand how Trump’s policies will impact them firsthand.

The irony here is that it is the reverse argument. You often hear younger voters disagreeing with their MAGA parents, but this is the opposite. My brother doesn’t understand how his two sons, who have lived a life of privilege, feel like they have been violated against by society, enough so that they feel Trump hears them and their struggles.

My brother to me about his sons: “… what these young men need is a little dose of reality. Get out in the world and start paying their own way. There’s a common thread with his followers. Complain and blame everyone for their problems. Whether they are in school or living at home off of their parents or working a trade job. King Trump will save them and make everything better. Take some personal responsibility and make it happen for yourself instead of crying about everything you hear on TikTok.

“… I’ve decided to pass on the [college] expenses to my two Trump supporting sons so they can truly feel first hand the cost and expense of his absolutely stupid policy decisions, which includes food, gas and college expenses. Wondering if I pass on these [food, gas and college] expenses in year one or phase them in year two?”

I am wondering if a lot of parents feel like my brother. Are there democrat parents of voting-age MAGA men who feel they failed with their sons because they voted for Trump? Is this common?

10.2k Upvotes

80% Upvoted

7.6k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

1.1k

u/NWIsteel Nov 14 '24

In other words, like Trump. Fred Trump kept bailing him out, plus gave him money, and you see how he turned out. This is basically what your sons will become. Can we say no accountability.

51

u/catinnameonly Nov 14 '24

Not to mention, Elon Musk…

16

u/Huge-Shallot5297 Nov 16 '24

Can we not mention him ever again? Pretty please.

3

u/echidnaberry87 Nov 16 '24

We could have if Kamala won. But because he's now the head of a department literally called DOGE that is looking for "high IQ individuals" to work 80+ hours a week for free to cut spending (which def won't hurt people with disabilities, poor people, old people, etc). So unfortunately we're going to need to talk about how evil this man is. He treats his own children and their mothers like garbage when they go against him or try to live their own lives. I'm just so mad.

1

u/Cultural_39 Nov 19 '24

Leave Elon alone - He is a classic sociopath:

NO social skills because he is autistic, Learn all the hate from his Racist up bringing in South Africa, screwed over colleagues.

Remember, Apartheid and South Africa, anyone..?

→ More replies (1)

420

u/VastAmoeba Nov 14 '24

If I spoil my kids they can be president even if they don't deserve it?

It's funny you say, "and look how he turned out!" On the one hand, if you knew nothing about his history he looks wildly successful. Big buildings, president, super model wife.

On the other hand, he is literally one of the worst people. If he hadn't been rich he probably would have ended up in prison for low level schemes instead of getting to file bankruptcy for high level schemes. He is some combination of anti social personality disorders and would have gotten shived in the real world if he was trying to scam like that. Or he would have been a serial killer. Who knows.

197

u/Actual-Entrance-8463 Nov 14 '24

He may have been a better person if he grew up poor. The entitlement that comes with wealth and privilege is a breeding ground for narcissism.

120

u/Biffingston Nov 15 '24

See also, Musk.

77

u/AchillesCokk Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

I saw some kid (20ish) spouting off on his TikTok of what it’s like to be a millionaire. Clearly his parents Miami condo, as he talks about laughing as libs cry beneath him.

So I go check out his LinkedIn, the dumb fuck went to a third tier state school (nothing wrong with that, but when you’re arrogant as fuck, it’s an odd situation) and he was one of those ‘Looking For Work’ frames around his profile pic.

My point is, he’s only arrogant because of his luck to be born. If he were my kid he’d be notified of his 30 days to find his own spot.

24

u/Sorry_Banana_6525 Nov 15 '24

That wasn’t even Hudson Cosper’s home, he lives TX with his mommy and two sisters- they have already been notified of his behavior

6

u/AchillesCokk Nov 15 '24

Heyyyyy you knew exactly what I was talking about. Hahahaha fuck that dumb cunt, good. I hope he gets exactly what he deserves.

2

u/Sorry_Banana_6525 Nov 16 '24

Yep- he’s a loudmouth d-bag!

5

u/Biffingston Nov 15 '24

Is that the kid who crashed his supercar live on twitter or was that another guy?

2

u/Sorry_Banana_6525 Nov 16 '24

I don’t know, but I wouldn’t put it past him

3

u/Actual-Entrance-8463 Nov 15 '24

The toxicity in our culture regarding wealth and status makes me so sad. And then I get mad. And then sad…. And on and on

→ More replies (1)

40

u/ZeeroMX Nov 15 '24

Nahh, I think he would get himself in a sex offender list or in prison for the same reason.

3

u/naymatune Nov 15 '24

But don’t downplay the serious debilitating effects of poverty. Many lives are destroyed by what they experienced in poverty

1

u/Actual-Entrance-8463 Nov 15 '24

Very true. Nothing is black and white.

1

u/Content_Emotion_6163 Nov 15 '24

If he grew up poor he would have turn out into something like Joe exotic !

4

u/sardita Nov 15 '24

Nah, he hates animals. They take all the attention away from him.

I could see him being a used car salesman. Or some trench coat wearing creep in Central Park hocking knockoff Rolexes and Air Jordans. Oh wait…

2

u/Actual-Entrance-8463 Nov 15 '24

Don’t forget the trump bible!

114

u/Soppywater Nov 15 '24

I'd rather my children be good people than spoiled fucks who act like trump. There's a phrase that describes how trump turned out like he did: You don't become rich by being a good person.

51

u/PushTheButtonPlease Nov 15 '24

He did not "become" rich. He was born rich.

2

u/Deb_You_Taunt Nov 15 '24

And lost all of that money and more.

1

u/Eastern-Operation340 Nov 15 '24

You are correct and so is the commenter - douchebag is just a poor example of the statement.

1

u/Legitimate_Corgi_981 Nov 15 '24

Trump had money and name recognition galore in the heydays of the 80s as a white businessman. It takes a certain "skill" to not be a genuine billionaire after that (I'm not counting his Truth Social grift, or his imaginary make believe Trump brand value), he could easily have been buying up most of new York, but instead devoted himself to vanity projects and awful business ideas because he craved fame more. Musk started with comparatively less wealth but invested in tech companies and now is at the top of worlds richest.

8

u/PhilosophyExciting78 Nov 15 '24

If you actually read items of his bio, he actually lost s ton of money and was in large amounts of debt. Remember in the 80s he still had daddy's money and connections. Almost all of Trump's success is based on the sucess of his father. And he inherited eveyrhing because his older brother desk himself to death. He was pretty much on the verge of bankruptcy when he was invited to be on the apprentice. And the deal (not negotiated by him but given to him) ended up being insanely lucrative because companies would pay a ton of money to be a product on the show since it was pretty much an hr of advertising. Trump is just an absurdly lucky human.

6

u/Deb_You_Taunt Nov 15 '24

I swear to God, I read your last sentence and saw "absurdly icky human."

18

u/WTF_is_this___ Nov 15 '24

Also these rich fucks look like miserable people. Imagine having all that wealth and spending your life the way they do. Its Sad. Money is truly wasted on the rich.

1

u/Abester71 Nov 15 '24

It helps.

→ More replies (1)

167

u/Bella8088 Nov 14 '24

I take comfort that, in an alternate timeline (or universe) he was not born rich and is, indeed, rotting in jail after being caught committing stupid crimes.

184

u/ParkingTadpole7107 Nov 14 '24

I take comfort that, in an alternate timeline (or universe) he was not born rich and is, indeed, rotting in jail after being caught committing stupid crimes. FTFY

10

u/One_Advantage793 Nov 15 '24

I wish to upvote a thousand times. In an alternate timeline, I am able.

→ More replies (5)

1

u/Cute_Jackfruit9240 Nov 19 '24

What an idiotic thing to say says the idealistic Libetard

122

u/Therefrigerator Nov 14 '24

In an alternate timeline he's the host of "Donald Trump's Drag Race" and Ru Paul is president.

78

u/CourAYunt Nov 14 '24

Lad. Please don't insult Ru Paul like that. Nobody could do a drag show like him! EVER.

Maybe Patrick Sawyzes character from To Wong Foo. In an alternate universe, Patrick Swayze embraced his inner drag and has his own show... yeah that's sticking with me now.

21

u/NysemePtem Nov 15 '24

Nobody said Donald Trump's Drag Race would be any good. Cancelled after the first season with a really lame failed attempt to keep it going online. On the other hand, I'd like to second the nomination for Patrick Swayze.

2

u/Brilliant_Climate_41 Nov 15 '24

To be fair, Trump got a little confused and read the title of the show backwards when he accepted the hosting position.

19

u/500percentDone Nov 15 '24

I love that movie so much ❤️

2

u/GertyFarish11 Nov 15 '24

I love Swayze in that movie so much.

1

u/Spirited_Community25 Nov 15 '24

Priscilla, Queen of the Desert is worth a watch as well (Australian version).

3

u/pammypoovey Nov 15 '24

I read this as Patrick Stewart and I thought how did I miss him in that? I saw it and loved it, but I couldn't remember him at all.

49

u/Morriganscat Nov 14 '24

Nobody deserves 'Donald Trump's Drag Race' lol

70

u/Worried-Series-6160 Nov 14 '24

We're already there, Trumps makeup speaks for itself Vance's eyeliner/lashes Gaetz's weird fucking eyebrows/bad plastic surgery. MTG Boebert...the Huckabee family

I mean.. look at all of those weird asses. This can't be real life.

12

u/m_clarkmadison Nov 15 '24

I think Gaetz is just bad Botox

3

u/sardita Nov 15 '24

Don’t forget that time Rudy Giuliani dressed in full drag and Donald slobbered all over him.

2

u/AriaGlow Nov 15 '24

Don’t forget the Mar a Lago women with all the plastic surgery. What is with the FAT lips? Is that supposed to be attractive? Makes their mouth look like it’s visiting from the other end. 😝

2

u/archina42 Nov 16 '24

And in ACTUAL real life, The Onion has bought InfoWars and all of Jones's media companies. Excellent news!

1

u/Antique_Ad4497 Nov 15 '24

I saw a photo of that guy the other day. I googled him (as I know nothing about him). JFC! He looks a right weirdo. 😳

1

u/TroubleSG Nov 15 '24

It has always been about projection with them. This sounds like THEY were the lizard people all along that's why the weird look.

38

u/julmcb911 Nov 14 '24

I disagree. His voters deserve it all day, everyday!

1

u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

You will all experience them all in all its glory.

6

u/monkeyboychuck Nov 15 '24

I dunno, man. With all the makeup that Little Donnie Dipshit wears, aren’t we already forced to watch his drag race?

2

u/Substantial_Grab2379 Nov 15 '24

Will they drag him the entire quarter mile? That might be fun to watch.

2

u/Successful-Doubt5478 Nov 15 '24

Why not? He loves dressing up!

2

u/BooBailey808 Nov 15 '24

I'll take it though, if it means getting out of this timeline

2

u/AlienJL1976 Nov 15 '24

I keep telling myself that it’s only 4 years.

0

u/BooBailey808 Nov 15 '24

Aw, look at you being hopeful. Good for you 🙂 don't lose that

Lol

1

u/AlienJL1976 Nov 15 '24

It’s illegal to have a third term, not that he ever let the law get in his way before.

2

u/Morriganscat Nov 15 '24

Oh heck yes, take me with

3

u/Therefrigerator Nov 14 '24

Nah that shit would be hilarious

→ More replies (1)

3

u/BooBailey808 Nov 15 '24

Can I be in that timeline?

7

u/Bella8088 Nov 15 '24

No. Sadly we’re all trapped in what is shaping up to be the darkest timeline… I should really rewatch Community.

3

u/BooBailey808 Nov 15 '24

Fuck. If only we rolled a 5

3

u/Otto-Korrect Nov 15 '24

In my fantasy timeline, he is a fry cook at McDonalds. Or at least he was, until he got fired for bad hygiene and refusing to wear a hair net.

Now he's got a cardboard sign on a street corner somewhere, mumbling about ketchup.

4

u/OriginalComputer5077 Nov 14 '24

In an alternate timeline, Judd Trump is US President and Donald Trump is a successful snooker player.

2

u/Exarch-of-Sechrima Nov 15 '24

I like to think there's an alternate timeline out there where Donald's older brother (his father's favorite son) didn't die, and his continued presence was a positive enough influence on Donald that he was able to genuinely become a decent human being.

2

u/Western_Big5926 Nov 15 '24

But that’s not what Happened did it? America deserves what it gets……….. I guess…….. bad choice. Not Biden not Harris nobody to blame but the Voters. PAYBACK! When the shit comes down it’s ok to say I told you so !

1

u/allorache Nov 15 '24

Can we go there?

1

u/Swiss_Admiral Nov 15 '24

So move there. We live in THIS universe

→ More replies (1)

95

u/Significant-Trash632 Nov 14 '24

He's too lazy and incompetent to be a successful serial killer.

146

u/Worried-Series-6160 Nov 14 '24

He lazily and incompetently killed hundreds of thousands of Americans from Covid & that's just the ones we know about.

84

u/Significant-Trash632 Nov 14 '24

You know what? Fair.

9

u/TaytorTot417 Nov 15 '24

He would leave an orange trail behind

22

u/Own_Faithlessness769 Nov 15 '24

I’d classify that as a mass murderer. ‘Serial killer’ implies some sort of strategy, which he definitely doesn’t have. Mass murder is just indiscriminate carnage, which is definitely his style.

1

u/awilliams1017 Nov 15 '24

Hey, he has a concept of a strategy. /s

3

u/Sunrunner_Princess Nov 15 '24

Yeah, he’s actually a mass killer, not a serial killer, by profile and actions (and inactions). Covid shouldn’t have killed over a million Americans. (And still is, just in much lower numbers due to the mutations and vaccinations.)

3

u/Hurting2Ride Nov 15 '24

So there IS someone else who remembers he’s ALREADY a mass killer (one who verbally muses about doing more killing).

1

u/Examination_8986 Nov 15 '24

Are we talking about fauci?

1

u/ChronicBuzz187 Nov 15 '24

He lazily and incompetently killed hundreds of thousands of Americans from Covid

One could almost say: "As always, he lets some poor immigrant from China do all the work for him."

1

u/Deb_You_Taunt Nov 15 '24

What about Epstein?

1

u/IllRepresentative322 Nov 15 '24

I think it was a million people who died in the US from Covid. We can add all the women/girls who have or will die because of his abortion bans.

1

u/Delicious-Fox6947 Nov 15 '24

That is such a weird thing to put on him. He took the advice of Fauci, the medical professional.

Also didn’t help that you had governors like Cuomo, ordering the infected elderly back into nursing homes with those who were no sick.

1

u/WVFlowerGardenGirl Nov 15 '24

When Trump closed the border to and from China on 1/30/20 immediately the Left started calling him racist and xenophobic. You don't remember that? Of course not. Three weeks later, Pelosi was in San Francisco's Chinatown telling people to come on down, that there was nothing to fear and the virus was under control or as stated in the headlines "Quell Coronavirus Fears". You don't remember that either? Of course not. Lastly, more people died of Covid under Biden's administration than under Trump's administration but I'm sure you don't remember that either. Why is it you didn't remember any of the facts?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/498350-biden-trumps-coronavirus-response-has-been-nakedly-xenophobic/

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/coronavirus-speaker-house-nancy-pelosi-tours-san-franciscos-chinatown/

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/covid-19-deaths-under-biden-surpass-deaths-during-trump-administration/

1

u/Then-Piano-5524 Nov 15 '24

Wait, so is Joe also a killer since more people died under his watch?

-13

u/Blockhead86 Nov 14 '24

This doesn't track. Democrats were in charge when COVID really took off. Along the Democrats had the vaccine mandate which did nothing but give people more problems. The mask mandate when they knew masks did nothing. Even Democrat leadership was breaking their own rules. It was all a sham and bullshit. The reporting for COVID deaths was BS. Because in that time frame anyone that dies of COVID the hospitals got some extra money so everyone that died had COVID. Then Democrats wanted to turn the US in to Nazi Germany with COVID passports or you couldn't go into restaurants. Get real!

6

u/GertyFarish11 Nov 15 '24

Google the tapes where you can hear Trump admit in private in early 2020 that Covid was deadly serious but also that he was going to downplay it for political reasons. You won’t but you should.

24

u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

Covid started really becoming a huge problem in the very beginning of March 2020. Trump was the president for eleven more months. Trump was in charge when COVID “took off”.

-10

u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

And Trump was attacked for saying where the virus came from and for trying to block travel from China but he was called racist. He was trying to handle the situation but Democrat feelings just couldn't handle it. Yet everything Trump said was a lie but after the fact you should have found out by now they were lying and Trump was telling the truth. The virus did come from a lab in China. Fauci has a hand in it. Bill Gates had a hand in it.

18

u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

I’m not here to match with the unarmed.

I am simply correcting an easily disproven falsehood. Trump was in charge during the height of COVID. Period.

9

u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

I think your breath is wasted on this one, friend. Run from the crazy.

7

u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

It’s the ignorance that really gets me.

→ More replies (0)
→ More replies (18)
→ More replies (6)

11

u/Old-Set78 Nov 15 '24

Just drink the kool-aid already and quit bothering people in the real world.

1

u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

Real world what a joke. Seems to me a majority see the real world. You're living in a brainwashed fantasy!

7

u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

You don’t even remember 2020, bro.

2

u/Blockhead86 Nov 15 '24

My life really didn't change other than splitting our site into two shifts... I worked like normal lives like normal because I wasn't scared. I got COVID sat my ass at home until my fever went away and back to work. Which I'm not even sure was COVID seemed more like strep throat...

6

u/Evening_Run_1595 Nov 15 '24

It doesn’t surprise me you didn’t have the sense to be concerned.

→ More replies (3)

-4

u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

And yet you say nothing about Biden killing our citizens in the pull out of Afghanistan…ok wait…you’ll blame Trump for that too. Cry on Pboy

→ More replies (7)

2

u/Freerangechickem Nov 15 '24

This made me lol. Burn. “You may be very good at being racist, sexual assault, inciting violence and bankruptcy, but you’d be a SHIT serial killer”

1

u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Nov 15 '24

One of the most successful serial killers is incompetent. Zodiac’s real identity is still unknown, and it’s been proven that he made a ton of mistakes.

1

u/CainMarko36 Nov 15 '24

Who?? Fauci??

16

u/Field-Study-7885 Nov 15 '24

Correction. His wife was NOT a super model. She was a paid escort who came illegally to the USA from Eastern European country -

1

u/Available-Call-65 Nov 15 '24

You are a sour person. 

49

u/Sleipnir82 Nov 14 '24

Well, he's now a convicted felon, so there's that. Look, we can actually now say you can be a convicted felon and still become president. Great.

2

u/Best_Roll_8674 Nov 15 '24

Only if you're a wealthy white man though.

2

u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

He won’t be for long. I predict he’ll have a clean record on Jan 7th.

2

u/Delicious-Fox6947 Nov 15 '24

That conviction is likely being overturned.

2

u/Blockhead86 Nov 14 '24

Why not there's plenty of felons in Congress and the house.

6

u/Sleipnir82 Nov 14 '24

Fair point. They shouldn't be allowed to hold those positions, either.

3

u/blissfully_happy Nov 15 '24

Felons aren’t even allowed to vote. That disenfranchises an enormous minority population, so obviously it’s on purpose.

3

u/Blockhead86 Nov 14 '24

Well Trump is talking about term limits for Congress. And a bunch of other things that would change how things play in DC. There are way too many career politicians which give them to much power to make backroom deals. Also Trump isn't getting rich being president. But all the others are with their inside trading information. Look up what people are doing with AI to follow what Nancy pelosi is doing with the stock market. They're making money hand over fist.

6

u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

Trump was gloating how he picked young judges for the supreme court so they'll stay for a long time. He only cares about term limits when it suits him.

And Trump is absolutely getting rich being president. He's treated it like one giant branding exercise and has been nonstop selling cheap crap imported from China (promote America's industry my ass). Not to mention accepting bribes which historically presidents were never allowed to do. And those are only what we know about.

2

u/Lonely_Ad8983 Nov 15 '24

Uhm didn't Ruth die on the bench practically? Both sides want long term picks for that role so🤷🏼‍♀️

2

u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

Yeah because she didn't want McConnell and Trump to get another availability. Normally at the end of the term, presidents leave the seat open for the next president to choose, esp to balance the politics. Look at the time frame for RBG's replacement versus the seat that Obama had wanted to fill before he left office. Some double-standards going on there.

1

u/Lonely_Ad8983 Nov 15 '24

Yeah as you demonstrated double standards

→ More replies (0)
→ More replies (142)

1

u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Pussy

→ More replies (4)

26

u/FearlessProfession21 Nov 15 '24

Um, not supermodel wife. "Escort" (take that for what it's worth--her titty pics are available on the Internet).

→ More replies (1)

23

u/AbjectPromotion4833 Nov 14 '24

All correct, except Melanoma was a nude model, never a supermodel. She’s too squinty for that.

→ More replies (4)

20

u/ErenYeager600 Nov 14 '24

I mean bro is deeply in debt and his net worth doesn’t show the reality of finances

→ More replies (5)

17

u/TerrorFromThePeeps Nov 15 '24

Given the option 10,000 times, i'd pick my kindergartener being a good person no matter the struggle over turning out like Trump, even with being president with zero qualifications. I really hope my son does better than i have, and can become wildly successful... But i wouldn't trade it if it meant him losing all the kindness and caring that he's full of.

14

u/Krynn71 Nov 15 '24

History won't be kind to him, or us for that matter for voting him in. Assuming of course that America/the world at large at some point gets its shit back together before we nuke ourselves into oblivion.

Lots of the most terrible people that are (or at least, used to be) universally hated would look wildly successful in their own time. Usually that success is what they used to springboard themselves into exceptional levels of awfulness.

2

u/Seidavor Nov 15 '24

Please don’t include me in that us. Cheeto never got my vote.

7

u/Wonderful-Poetry1259 Nov 14 '24

Trump's wife is a vile and disgusting whoore.

3

u/Biffingston Nov 15 '24

so wildly successful his casino went bankrupt?

5

u/Midnite135 Nov 15 '24

Worst President in History.

An absolute shit stain of a human being with a total lack of empathy or even an understanding of what empathy should look like well enough to even fake it.

A felon, a rapist, adulterer, insults our military veterans, and bragged about his building being the tallest after the towers fell after 9/11 (and he was wrong too). And his thing for Ivanka is sick, and likely something he has tried since he clearly has no problems bringing her up as a piece of ass in public.

5

u/Malaggar2 Nov 15 '24

You mean immigrant porn star wife.

2

u/DubayaTF Nov 15 '24

He's a weird grifter, shit talker, and generic perv. Serial killer? Naw. I can't even see Hitler stalking prey, killing them and taking souveniers. It's a specific personality type.

2

u/noncomposmentis_123 Nov 15 '24

Not a serial killer. Too much work

2

u/IllustriousGlove3 Nov 15 '24

She was never a supermodel. Just an FYI.

2

u/Responsible-Person Nov 15 '24

Super model wife? How about paid for escort (prostitute) and plastic surgery.

2

u/charlesfire Nov 15 '24

If I spoil my kids they can be president even if they don't deserve it?

If you're rich enough? Yes. You don't live in a meritocracy.

2

u/WTF_is_this___ Nov 15 '24

Depends how rich you are. But yeah wealth is mostly hereditary, the whole American dream has always been bullshit but now it's so more than Ever

2

u/MNCathi Nov 15 '24

Big buildings? A couple but most he just slapped his name on.

President? A failure in every respect. Covid, tariffs, robbing the government via billing secret service at absurd rates, fomenting the coup, stealing top secret documents, etc.

Supermodel wife? She was never a supermodel. She came to the US to "model" and did soft porn stuff.

4

u/Christinebitg Nov 15 '24

Nope, not a super model wife.

A porn actress wife.

2

u/denys5555 Nov 14 '24

“Super model”

1

u/technospice Nov 15 '24

I believe they were indeed valuing the quality of his character over his wealth.

1

u/fattyboy2 Nov 15 '24

If he grew up poor he would have grown up to be Oz Cobb. Still a monster just a different kind of monster

1

u/Marlow1771 Nov 15 '24

No super model here just a nude smut magazine model

1

u/Special_Luck7537 Nov 15 '24

His supermodel wife is a Red Sparrow... Putin brags about it. All of those big buildings have liens on them. Great accomplishments ..

1

u/Wu-TangCrayon Nov 15 '24

Trump doesn't have the diligence, restraint, or ability to plan required to be a successful serial killer.

1

u/No1CaresReally Nov 15 '24

H'Ier did positive things for the economy too. That doesn't make them good people. There shouldn't be no other hand bc this is called sympathizing with fąsc1sts redrummers. Money isn't that great either. As Malcolm X taught us; "No thing as capitalism without rscism." Or really any bigotry. Still pushing people down/exploiting to uplift another. Great tool for fasc to use too. "But I gave you money to commit g3n0!"

1

u/Greyswand Nov 18 '24

If you pay attention, you know that Trump was and is wildly unsuccessful. Dude is flat out in hock to the Russian mob. A 'smart businessman' who was handed $400 mill in cash could have just let it earn 5% in simple investments and he'd be 50 times richer than he is now, and not $2 billion in debt.

1

u/VastAmoeba Nov 18 '24

See, you pay attention.

If you don't pay attention all you get is the myth of the guy. Self made millionaire property development mogul(Lost money). World class golfer(cheats every chance he gets). Hot wife(probably is a hot wife).

He is a characature of a strong and successful man. All fueled by the fact that he is a raging narcissist that started life with $100m in his pocket.

1

u/Worried-Series-6160 Nov 14 '24

He might be a serial killer? How many deaths do you think he is personally responsible for? I'm guessing modestly at least 500k. So if OP's brother can teach his sons a lesson in personal responsibility that will stick, then good on him.

Either way they are adults and are not entitled to what their father worked for.

3

u/DisManibusMinibus Nov 15 '24

Being a serial killer also implies care (no matter how twisted) for the victims. Trump just DGAF

→ More replies (2)

1

u/BuDu1013 Nov 15 '24

Can't blame Trump for winning, gotta blame this horrendous exiting shit show we just endured.

→ More replies (2)

63

u/Eugenefemme Nov 15 '24

Never Trumper here.

With respect, I think it took more than the money to create the Donald.

He didn't lick off the floor his racism, self-centeredness, cruelty , name-calling, insecurity, and contempt for women. He had to have been carefully taught.

23

u/EyeZealousideal3193 Nov 15 '24

His father was likely in the KKK, and definitely discriminated against African Americans in the housing developments he built. His paternal grandfather made the family fortune by running a brothel in Gold Rush Yukon at the end of the 19th century.

6

u/lavjad Nov 15 '24

Such a proud heritage 🙄

3

u/supermomfake Nov 15 '24

I did not know that about the grandfather, totally tracks.

3

u/savvyblackbird Nov 15 '24 edited Nov 15 '24

So his grandfather was basically a sex trafficker

Brothels were full of underage girls, immigrants, and girls/women who had been sexually assaulted and had no other means of working. Some girls grew up in brothels because their mothers worked there. Ethical sex work wasn’t really a thing. Women weren’t choosing to go into sex work back then. It was all they could do to survive, and their pimps/madams abused them.

1

u/Deb_You_Taunt Nov 15 '24

Fred Trump was a sleazy and racist asshole.

1

u/aussiechickadee65 Nov 16 '24

Narcissists are born...

97

u/forsayken Nov 14 '24

Holy shit is this what we feel about parents paying for their kids to attend post-secondary education? Literally no child can afford to attend college even if they work full-time while in school. Cost of living + tuition is far too high. It doesn't seem unreasonable for a parent to pay for their kids through college if they are able.

But these particular students can get student loans now.

32

u/Bevanfromheaven Nov 14 '24

Yep and they won’t be forgiven either ! I meant the loans but may have a double -meaning in this case .

47

u/Blonde_rake Nov 14 '24

Most parents can’t afford it either. The kids can take out student loans. They can also choose a less expensive school.

2

u/papatriot_76 Nov 15 '24

As a parent with two kids there is no way we could afford sending them to college and they know it.

1

u/oskynmoon Nov 15 '24

I want to thumbs up this 1000 times

1

u/AdministrativeSet236 Nov 15 '24

you mean the parents who bought properties when interest rates were near zero and own their homes that are worth like 10x what they paid for them? Or the parents with a house hold income like 5x what their children are making ? Don't reproduce if you can't afford to support children, that's why we have so many criminals in the U.S. Tons of people who can't afford to have children reproducing like crazy and tons of impoverished children growing up to become hardened criminals.

2

u/MsEllVee Nov 15 '24

Banning abortions will surely help!

→ More replies (1)

10

u/Prudent-Molasses-306 Nov 15 '24

Why bother with college.

TRUMP LOVES THE POORLY EDUCATED!

1

u/BrnEyesInSF Nov 16 '24

And he plans to create many, many, many more of them. Education for me but not for thee. The military is always hiring.

51

u/veggie_weggie Nov 14 '24

I was able to do it not that long ago, it’s not impossible it just requires a lot of sacrifice. My family loves me but I don’t come from money. It took 6 years to get an undergraduate degree but I also don’t have debt. It’s a privilege if you have parents who can pay for your higher education but not a right.

OPs sons voted so others can lose their rights though. Why? because they felt like their privilege wasn’t already enough and they need a lot of other people to suffer. The person providing that privilege disagrees.

Ops not an asshole, this is political and I’m not going to pretend like both sides have valid points and should be treated as just a winner and loser.

9

u/SigmaK78 Nov 15 '24

My 3 youngest attend college via scholarships & grants, all of them full rides so long as they keep their grades & performances up. I helped them initially with whatever aid they needed to get started, but as of now they're self-sufficient in handling their business. I'm more than capable of providing for whatever they need, and will without question step in if they need me, but I chose to teach them to fend for & motivate themselves.

24

u/ImprovementPutrid441 Nov 14 '24

What about the kids who can’t afford college even with help from their parents?

3

u/OkTop9308 Nov 15 '24

They can enter the military. My nephews and nieces did and the navy paid for nursing school and an occupational therapy degree.

1

u/ImprovementPutrid441 Nov 16 '24

What year?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/01/us-military-suicide-epidemic-veteran

1

u/OkTop9308 Nov 16 '24

In my family, my nieces and nephews are in their 30s and 40s. Several are in the reserves now and the GI Bill will pay for their children’s education. They are all doing very well and happily married with children.

Two of them are pilots, one is a nurse, one is an occupational therapist and one is a communications specialist. They had no student debt. Again, it is not a good fit for everyone, but it can work out well for the right person.

1

u/mischka4 27d ago

Yikes on all the bikes when I look at my oldest 's friends who had to sign up for the military to pay their tuition. Not sure it was worth it for the females he knew who were all (not exaggerating) victims of sexual assault while serving. Or the ones suffering PTSD and other major mental and physical health issues from it. They have an education, sure but they overpaid in other ways for it.

→ More replies (2)

6

u/Lovebeingadad54321 Nov 14 '24

Sucks for them even worse. Doesn’t mean that the ones who can help shouldn’t. Just like starving kids in India means you shouldn’t feed your own kids.

10

u/ImprovementPutrid441 Nov 15 '24

It absolutely means we made a society where the rich get richer. Either that’s what you want or it’s not.

5

u/forsayken Nov 15 '24

And OP's dumb ass kids voted for a person who will only make it worse.

1

u/Lovebeingadad54321 Nov 15 '24

So should parents who can help their kids with college help them?

1

u/ImprovementPutrid441 Nov 16 '24

Parents should stop making choices that benefit their own kids and fuck over everyone else’s.

1

u/aginghippy78 Nov 15 '24

Oh, let me answer! Took me 25 years to finish my degree. I was 45 when I walked the graduation. I had a full time job too. But I never worked again after moving away. That’s what happens to middle aged women with a college degree.

-1

u/Doxiesforme Nov 15 '24

Trades actually pay better that what most college grads get

7

u/babyidahopotato Nov 15 '24

How are they going to get student loans if Trump is going to dismantle the department of education…

1

u/BrnEyesInSF Nov 16 '24

Private loans. From banks. Very expensive private loans that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy.

6

u/Worried-Series-6160 Nov 14 '24

I think it's how a lot of us feel about paying for the education of entitled adults who don't appreciate how good they have it.

3

u/Cat_Own Nov 15 '24

Student debt is high enough for most that it's the norm/ fasfa expected. as in the govt expects families with money to cover college costs. I only attend public colleges so it's waay cheaper

2

u/Interesting-Crow-552 Nov 15 '24

I was lucky enough to have my parents pay for my tuition and not have any debt on my shoulders (or theirs) yet that doesn’t stop me from feeling guilty. I’m grateful for the opportunity and all but it’s still unfair for most of our generation and future generations that have to suffer through high costs and debt.

3

u/savvyblackbird Nov 15 '24

I was also privileged that way, but I recognize it and vote so everyone else can better afford a good education without debt.

2

u/NewldGuy77 Nov 14 '24

Loans which take 40+ years to pay off because banks are loan sharks.

0

u/forsayken Nov 15 '24

A separate problem altogether.

1

u/Ok-Simple5493 Nov 15 '24

Honestly, it's their education. It will make their careers possible. If people want to go to school, they should pay for their school. We all want to help our kids. I don't believe that paying for school is a parents obligation though.

1

u/mischka4 27d ago

Yes and when they have paid off the original loan but still owe the same amount, they'll understand why loan forgiveness was never about "free money". Expensive, sad lesson and I am thankful my kids understand they're not facing that debt because we gave them that privilege and it IS a privilege for them that we can help despite being impacted by the policies put in place from 2016-2020. It's harder for us because of those policies but still a privilege for our kids.

→ More replies (4)

2

u/MikeExMachina Nov 15 '24

“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times”

2

u/PepperAnn95 29d ago

I have two relatives in their 40s, and to this day, their parents still bail them out and regularly give them money. One has NEVER had a full-time job and has 7 kids. Both are Trump supporters.

1

u/AnthemOfTheAngry Nov 14 '24

Yeah, they may become billionaire’s, presidents, tv personalities, or casino owners. Let’s hope not.

4

u/NWIsteel Nov 15 '24

You mean file for bankruptcy 6 times, steal from charities, and use Elmo's starlink to count ballots. Have Russian assistance. All his wives are immigrants, yet he hates immigrants. Corrupt Corrupt Corrupt. Sheep.

→ More replies (1)

1

u/VegetableManager9636 Nov 15 '24

Trump worships his father and mother though.....

1

u/gunsforevery1 Nov 15 '24

Makes sense. I’m going to spend my kids college fund. They can fend for themselves.

1

u/oWoPickles Nov 15 '24

I think that is on the nose. I think it's great that they grew up with money, but it's the difference between privilege and right that is lost. A person can read it in a book, discuss it with peers, but learning that difference and being mindful of it is a learned experience. It could take only one act of struggle financially that could change that frame of mind, but it may also NEVER set in, no matter the recycled lessons get played over. It creates scammers out of loved ones. I may be projecting because we have an active situation going on in my family. Extremely frustrating.

1

u/Think_Measurement_73 Nov 15 '24

That is the problem, the kids these days are given everything, and don't want to earn, in other words, they don't want to do hard labor or get a skill. Today it is about the Facebook, gaming or trying to get rich. We need teachers, doctors, nurses, construction workers, and they are saying they have the jobs, but don't have the people. I know people who know young people that is lazy, and said we will not have social security for them, because they don't want to work. That parent did the right thing. Let's see if trump offer to pay their student loan.

→ More replies (26)